Abdominal pains from 4-acO-dmt?

[vantranist]

SWIM has recetnly been getting abdominal pains from the stomach to the sides... reallly all around the abdomen from 4-aco-dmt.

It does seem to get worse with higher dose however this has never been a problem before... even with small doses some is definatly noted.

Can anyone give any idea's why this is happening?

[Nagognog2]

Is this happening only when the substance is being taken orally? How about sublingully? How often is this being takenen? What dosages are being used? Has this been happening to only SWIM? Or are other monkey's affected?

[vantranist]

SWIM has only noted abdominal pains with oral use however SWIM hasent tried sublingully administration since the pains started and when he was snorting it oral administration also caused no pains. However now it does... SWIM will try sublingully next time.

Its being taken about once a week... for awhile it was taken 2 times per week with no pains, after SWIM cut back to once a week the pains kicked up a few weeks later.

Small / great doses are being taken but dosage for passing these ones have been taken in the past without the internal aches, and SWIM only takes this substance alone.

He either figared he has caused some perminate damage inside or needs an extended break, He is hoping on the break.

[vcdman]

well, good luck on taking that break...

Let us know how it goes