source of MDMA

[WhiteRyan]

I was reading in drug news on a post in their by alfa and in the post it said:


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[Moved by KT; doesn't belong in drug chem]Edited by: Kemikaru_Tenshu

[OneDiaDem]

Nutmeg Info

[WhiteRyan]

Lovely info, sorry I didnt search b4 posting

[WhiteRyan]

Everytime I think about a legal high I dont go for it, discouraged believing that it will be a waste of time. Any suggestions regarding legal highs

[serotonin]

short answer on nutmeg:


not like mdma AT ALL. very shitty high accompanied by very shitty hangover. just not worth it!

[hippie_lain]

If its really fresh nutmeg its a little better.

[cyalume]

Originally Posted by hippie_lain

If its really fresh nutmeg its a little better.

true, but still nasty and not worth it

[jarka]

Nutmeg can be compared with cannabis. It is quite similiar but still not the same. Cannabis is better, much better. I also think that nutmeg is a quite waste of time and anyway, it's quite toxic. It's ingestion process is uncomfortable and the nausea can be quite bad (though i have never had nausea from nutmeg). Don't know, smoke cannabis or something.. nutmeg isn't that cool.

[wednesday]

nutmeg = crap
almost anything else = not crap

???

i know its not true

any store that sell "pot alternative bud" that is probably worse...it cost a lot more and does nothing never buy

Paul

[sunyata]

Nutmeg does not contain MDMA!


It does, however, contain certain essential oils that are precursors to MMDA and MDA, among others.


Just say know!

[PenguinPhreak]

There are plenty of very effective legal entheogens. Just search google
for a while and youll find plenty of online retailers. Morning Glory is
one of my favorite drugs. Salvia Divinorum is also very interesting,
but can be quite intense. Kava Kava is good if you are looking for
something relaxing and euphoric.

[intrepid]

yeah, like penguin said, there are lots of effective legal highs, just
do some homework on the ones you are interested in and learn about'em .
. . i've been having to deal with drug tests for about a year now and
have been experimenting with various ones for awhile now . . . my
favorites being morning glory, kava kava, ayahuasca, and occasionally
san pedro or peruvian torch if i'm willing to go through a bit of
trouble to prep it. just because it's legal doesn't mean it's
shit, just give em a try.

[Alfa]

Nutmeg contains MMDA, not MDMA. Must be a typo.

[uqlfy]

I thought sassafrass plant contained safrole an essential for the
synthesise of MDMA. Also before MDMA was scheduled wasnt it sold
OTC in a product called sassafrass for use as an aphrodisiac?

[venom]

i thought nuttmegg had some oils that could be used for the synthesis of mdma, but a nuttmeg high IS NOT like mdma at all i wouldnt recommend nuttmeg to anybody

[dr ACE]

nutmeg high is pretty crude methodjust raw nutmeg, but if you know chemistry then there are precusors to be found in nutmeg which could yeild some mdma realted chemicals like mmda http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_info3.shtml Edited by: dr ACE

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Sassafrass root. Grind to powder, make tea, drink tea (it tastes good
but don't get you high). Then take wet grounds from the
sassafrass tea, and set out somewhere warm and moist, and allow it to
ferment and mold up a bit. Now dry that up completely using low
dry heat or a hot sunny spot. Put the resulting powder in gelcaps and
consume. Not MDMA, but MDA is the result from this little
botanical experiment.

[Freemind]

BB. That's very interesting. Has that botanical experiment been verified? If yes, SWIM would guess that any plant that contains safrole could be done with the same experiment. SWIM got another plant (piper auritum) are still too small for harvesting for oil; however, there are certainly some leaves that can be collected for experiments.

[allyourbase]

I find this very interesting. but hard to believe.do you have any info as to the chemical mechanism of this change?

[uqlfy]

Originally Posted by BrugmansiaBrujo

Sassafrass root. Grind to powder, make tea, drink tea (it tastes good
but don't get you high). Then take wet grounds from the
sassafrass tea, and set out somewhere warm and moist, and allow it to
ferment and mold up a bit. Now dry that up completely using low
dry heat or a hot sunny spot. Put the resulting powder in gelcaps and
consume. Not MDMA, but MDA is the result from this little
botanical experiment.

It would be interesting to know if anyone has any experience with this.

Sassafrass root is a common ingredient in many love spells and charms.
I wonder if perhaps this is like "flying ointment" which contained
Datura, Bella Donna and other nightshade plants.

[Eirias]

There is absolutely no data to back up that sassafras rootbark
left out to ferment and then ingested would be metabolically
transformed into MDA. If this were the case it would be both well
documented and backed up by the experiments of LOTS of psychonauts in
search of an easy natural source of MDA that did not require
chemistry. Furthermore I would advise against even trying it, as
the fermentation process may produce bacteria or fungi that one would
not want to ingest (especially if one lets it "mold up a bit").

Fermented sassafras rootbark, when done correctly, produces ROOT BEER (hence the name), not MDA.

Also, Alfa, the essential oil of nutmeg contains no
amphetamines, phenethylamines, nor amines of any type. However it
does contain myristicin, which is a precursor to MMDA-4. There
was some speculation awhile back that when ingested, the essential
components of nutmeg were metabolized into psychoactive amines, but no
concrete evidence ever arose to suggest that this was in fact true.

If I am incorrect on either if these points, please cite the references indicating otherwise.

[psykochamane]

Personally, I once tried the nutmeg. In infusion, 7 gr in a glass of water. I had the stomach heavy all evening long but no effect similar to the mdma. Nothing positive.


But now, some fool quantities of present nutmeg in a dish of food, I taste the nutmeg as if there was 7gr.

[seldor]

I have done nutmeg on several ocasions, it's more like mj like buzz then mdma...

[allyourbase]

NOTHING is like MJ.


nothing is as worthwhile.


nothing as aestheticly pleasing.


nothing as SAFE.

[antigenesis]

Originally Posted by allyourbase

NOTHING is like MJ.


nothing is as worthwhile.


nothing as aestheticly pleasing.


nothing as SAFE.

on that wonderful note I'm off to smoke some


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Once I ate like 11gr(or somehting like that, maybe 14 or something) of
old dried ground nutmeg powder. Might have well shoveled desert
dust into my mouth, would havegotten just as high(and maybe taste
better too!).

Edited by: antigenesis