holding your hit

[wednesday]

is there a certain point where holding your hit has adverse or better effects than just a hit taken ...

i was wanting to try some salvia extract and weed (which would create a wonderful salvia realm and then make it last longer with the weed) in theory anyway....

but in order for salvia to work you take like 2 sometimes 3 hits and hold each hit for about 30 seconds

i know with mescaline if you hold the hit to long some can crystalize in your lungs or something to that effect so i just wanted to see if anything like that would happen with weed

thanks
Paul

[WhiteRyan]

More absorbtion takes place when you hold it in, not really a certain point. And a great deal of getting more out of a hit is lung pressure. Is that all you wanted to know ?

[wednesday]

right i was just asking if there is a certain point where if you hold the hit for too long that is starts to reform in your lungs like mescaline...like the THC

i don't know im just crazy i suppose

Paul

what do you mean by the lung pressure, sorry for all the questions i just like using the resources here i have available
thanks

[serotonin]

holding THC in your lungs for long amounts of time isn't going to make it crystallize. it's probably just worse for your lungs in general (considering it's smoke and all...)


as for a "saturation point". the only thing i have ever heard is that you should hold it for7 seconds, anything longer than that is pointless. i don't think thats true though, just some rumour.

[WhiteRyan]

i think holding a hit in for anytime longer will slow absorb more, but thats just my opinion

[Pinkavvy]

anything you want absorbed is done in about 7 seconds, anything beying that is pointless.

(thc is absorbed almost as fast as oxygen .... anything after about 7 seconds and you're just holding your breath)

[wednesday]

thank you very much

Paul

[grecian]

i have blacked out from holdin bong hits in too long, this isnt necessarily an adverse effect but could sketch sum ppl out

[wednesday]

that doesn't sound lovely...but at the same time it could lead to a great story...you could sit around a hookah telling all your friend about the itme you passed out
Paul

[Df1337]

I have also heard the figure of 7 seconds from reading around. I
wouldn't worry about it too much as long as you dont exhale right
away.

[club222]

I like to laugh at the people that sit there and hold their breath for
like a minute to the point where their face is turning blue, all
because they think that they are getting more thc from it.

[Herbal Remedy]

if u consider the effects that holding your breath and smoke for a long time has on your brain, combined with the effects of thc on your brain, i think its safe to say that ur gonna be more fucked up from holding a hit in longer. if u can i dont see a reason not to hold it in, i know i wanna make sure i get all the high i can outta my bud. and if you are really worried about thenegative effects that holding a hit in is gonna have on ur lungs than idont really think u should be SMOKING pot in the first place. id say get a vaporizerand play it safe. just my two cents,peace...

[searcher]

If I'm down to a couple roaches, I hold the hit longer than I do when I have a fat bag.

[club222]

Originally Posted by searcher

If I'm down to a couple roaches, I hold the hit longer than I do when I have a fat bag.

hehe just noticed this, check out your post count searcher, 420

[searcher]

Originally Posted by club222

hehe just noticed this, check out your post count searcher, 420

I actually have way more posts than that

[Colby]

I dont know, I tested this out the other day, I smoked 3 bowls total.


Each bowl weight .4


1st Bowl- Held every hit in for 5 secs, decent high.


2nd Bowl- Held each hit in for 10 secs, even better high.


3rd bowl- Held each hit in fo 15 secs, much, much, better high.


I waited completley until the high wore off from the previous bowl before I smoked again too. So In my opinion, holding it in longer does get you higher. Next time I try this, I will time my high until it completley wears off, but until then, im sticking with holding it in longer does get you higher.

[Chaote]

7 seconds is the time it takes for the "effect" (i guess thats what you would call it,) to reach your brain. Holding it in is like hyperventilating kinda so you do get higher like when you breathe reely fast and then hold your breath you get light headed, If you hod it in longer dose what you exhale have like less smoke in it? cause thats how it seems to me but then again im stoned when I do it

[The_Great_Sage]

well actually as long as you can handle it and not cof then hold as long as you want. its proly realy good advice to let it out and breathe when you begin to cough . when you begin to cough it would be dumb to hold in longer since the action of coughing is used to get stuff out of your lung and so you would not be absorbing anything .so in conclusion holding in will be a slight bit more effective but be at caution it may slow the rotation of the bong/bowl

[Stingray_313]

Yeah The_Great_Sage... it sucks when people hold the bowl/bong up. lol.
But holding a hit is somewhat pointless after a while... after a period
of time in your lungs, the THC goes away and your left with stale,
harsh smoke.... and as The_Great_Sage mentioned, coughing it all out
will only RID your lungs of the sweet sweet tetrahydrocannibinoid. And
we wouldent want that.

[The_Great_Sage]

oh yea if you hold too long you will cough your ass off like my brother did and now we cant sit on that side of the room since he almost heaved all over it stingray was there

[OccularFantasm]

Well i remember reading somewhere, on this forum i actualy beleive, that for the first 10 or so seconds the rate of absorbtion of the thc is at a high rate, with an increase in time changing the overall ratio, As time goes on, the ratio of absorbing good thigns and bad thigns worsen. swim finds the best way is to get a real nice bong slide, ad jus smoke bongs. chalk it up, clear it, chalk it up again, and clear it, then hold til u feel like it. It sure does seem to get swim twice as stoned. Best part is, it works with jus a lil nugget, or with a joint or blunt roach. As far as with cannabis and salvia, well swim happens to have a lot fo experiance with that combo. Swim would reccomend putting in a lil it of salvia and lil bit of weed in a bowl or bong and jus taking the hit and holding for 30 seconds or so. If you can hold longer than do a lot of people have trouble with that though, especially witht he smoke in their lungs. You wont get high from either ont he first hit probably, maybe alittle bit formt he salvia. Worry not tho brave smoker, for weed will accumlate as you keep smoking and salvia has a reverse tolerance. Soon enough you will be in you own littl world. And yes weed does both extend the effects of salvia, as well as making the entire thing more enjoyable with the nice gentle downer buzz. If you wear glasses or contacts, try it without them in, as this helps with visuals. I guess ur outta luck all you people with real good vision lol, yall are gonna have to train ur brain.