Best Drug for the money

[nononono15]

Hey, SWIM isn't really sure which forum this would go into, if any, but what drug out there gives you the best high/experience for the cheapest amount of money?

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	Obviously didn't read the rules.
	good question
	Good question,; interested in this, too.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

This topic would involve a discussion of prices which is very much against the rules here,swiy did read the rules right?

[nononono15]

yeah, swim did read the rules. swim isnt askin for direct prices, but we all know some drugs are very expensive, and others that are real cheap. swim is trying to make clear which are cheap and which arent.

[tayo]

well maybe being non-specific something can still come of this.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Well without discussing any prices swim would say acid is the way to go to get alot for a little.However acid seems a wee bit uncommon these days.

[burgerman]

weed is the best drug for money if you grow it yourself for free and bake it in brownies

[tayo]

this is a good question. maybe the answer to that is prescription drugs that one only has to pay a co-pay for. and for illicit drugs probably marijuana, but the experience from say an 8th of shrooms could be much more valuable than an eighth of weed and sometimes half the price. ethnobotanicals that are known to work like kratom are usually a decent price if ordered in large quantities, say 250grams+ of kratom. It depends what swiy likes, swim doesn't have a perfect answer to this question besides, "it all depends."

[keats]

Alcohol can be very cheap for the amount of "fucking up" it will give you. Good hash can be very economical if you know the right people.

[SuprSonik]

Alcohol probably, unless you're drinking at a bar.

[doctor4hire]

lsd fucks you up for soo long

[Heretic.Ape.]

Absolute cheapest: FREE!
Endogenous endorphins. Go running for more than a half-hour, it's good shit and totally free and the running will do you good. Maximized pleasure and potential for psychoactive affect via endogenous endorphins would probably be acheived through BDSM practice (free if you have a lover, rather expensive if you rely on prostitutes).
Holotropic Breathwork, a practice created by LSD therapist Stanislov Grof and his wife, involves controlled extended hyperventilation over an hour or more while laying down and listening to dynamic music. It has been reported by many to be comparable to an LSD experience.
Meditation has been reported to be very good for effects ranging from opioid-like calm and satisfaction to rather prominant psychedelic-like affects.
Various sexual practices such as tantra are reported to allow one to prolong sexual orgasm indefinitely and even produce psychedelic like affects. This can be practiced with a partner or even by yourself.
h.a.

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	good call! ~t;)
	brilliant!
	while none of these are consumable drugs, I nevertheless commend you on making these people aware that drugs aren't the ...

[psyche]

GBL, definately. It is amazingly cheap and it produces pretty nice and warm, drunk-like feeling. I prefer it over alcohol.

[Jatelka]

The drug-price calculator here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/calculato...&Submit=Submit

may be helpful in this situation

What is GBL? Swim's never heard of it..

Swim thinks that lsd would be the option, but is so hard to find a legit dealer these days.

[nononono15]

What exactly is GBL?

Swim's thinking that LSD is the option to choose, but it's so hard to find a legit dealer these days

[podge]

Originally Posted by nononono15

Swim's thinking that LSD is the option to choose, but it's so hard to find a legit dealer these days

Swim thinks it's a stupid,uninformed potentially dangerous decision to take LSD simply because its more affordable than other drugs. If swiy wants to get "fucked up" for cheap i suggest swiy read's the thread about inhaling one's own shit to get high.

[beentheredonethatagain]

LOVE is the Drug silly .. The rabbit on my knee says so

[Senor Gribson]

anything that SWIM can grow. shrooms are probably the cheapest thing to grow and the most rewarding

[psyche]

GBL is gammabutyrlactone, which converts in body to GHB, gammahydroxybutyrate, which is alcohol-like sedative, which occurs naturally in body and is a prescription med for insomnia. Unlike alcohol, there rarely is hangover or toxic effects. GBL is an industrial solvent, but isn't as dangerous as other solvents and random industrial chemicals used to get high.

[fnord]

well what do you mean by best? most intense buzz for lil $?computer cleaner.but if by best you mean safe/cheap lsd!!!!!not that i have ever done it but my good friends do it every few days to keep there sanity.

[MrG]

Originally Posted by fnord

for lil $?computer cleaner. but if by best you mean safe/cheap lsd!!!!!

I hope you're not dissing the GBL by taking a Trinka style cheap shot at the fact it can be used as an industrial agent. In the same way that Sodium Hydroxide can be used as a base alkali, it also can be used perfectly safely in food recipe's.

SWIM votes for GHB though. Whilst GBL is perfectly safe for consumption (within limits - never forget that the poison is in the dose), SWIM prefer's the lighter buzz he gets from GHB and also the smug sense of superiority he can indulge in knowing that, as proven by scientific research, GHB is not only perfectly safe, but provides beneficial side-effects too!

[keats]

Originally Posted by MrG

I hope you're not dissing the GBL by taking a Trinka style cheap shot at the fact it can be used as an industrial agent. In the same way that Sodium Hydroxide can be used as a base alkali, it also can be used perfectly safely in food recipe's.

SWIM votes for GHB though. Whilst GBL is perfectly safe for consumption (within limits - never forget that the poison is in the dose), SWIM prefer's the lighter buzz he gets from GHB and also the smug sense of superiority he can indulge in knowing that, as proven by scientific research, GHB is not only perfectly safe, but provides beneficial side-effects too!

That's absolute nonsense. GHB is NOT perfectly safe, I'd like to see the "scientific research" that makes any such claim. SWIM personally knew of someone who DIED from GHB. Yes, it was in use with another drug, no GHB overdose doesn't happen that often, but yes it is entirely possible. Marijuana is a perfectly safe drug, as are shrooms or lsd. Alcohol, cocaine, opiates, and GHB are NOT. GHB is a strong CNS depressant, and when combined with other depressants (like alcohol, which is a frequent polydrug combination) it can cause a fatal overdose. I'd like to see this statement retracted, qualified, or at least explained, because the assertion that GHB is "perfectly safe" is completely false.

[MrG]

Originally Posted by keats

That's absolute nonsense. GHB is NOT perfectly safe, I'd like to see the "scientific research" that makes any such claim.

Instead of doing the usual gnashing of teeth and screaming "but what about the kids", why don't you pop over to the GHB forum and the GHB archive and actually see the scientific research yourself.

Ignorance is no excuse if you are a member of this forum.

Yes there are document cases of complications caused by people taking GHB with other CNS suppressors such as alcohol but do you hear anyone in their right mind recommend combining the two in the first place?!!!

Sorry for being off-topic but the defence is warranted.

[keats]

Originally Posted by MrG

Instead of doing the usual gnashing of teeth and screaming "but what about the kids", why don't you pop over to the GHB forum and the GHB archive and actually see the scientific research yourself.

Ignorance is no excuse if you are a member of this forum.

Yes there are document cases of complications caused by people taking GHB with other CNS suppressors such as alcohol but do you hear anyone in their right mind recommend combining the two in the first place?!!!

Sorry for being off-topic but the defence is warranted.

What SWIM hears is someone touting GHB as perfectly safe when it absolutely isn't. Complications? Try deaths, lots of them. It's close to impossible to OD on alprazalom alone, and no sane user would recommend combining it with alcohol (or GHB, which is another lethal combo) but the fact many deaths have occured from the combination means alprazalom is NOT a perfectly safe drug, and neither is GHB. SWIM isnt saying the sky is falling or attacking you personally, he doesn't even think GHB is that bad of a drug. But your post isn't just misleading but potentially dangerous. Most GHB deaths (including the one SWIM knew) have occured because people thought of it as "perfectly safe".

Anyway to get back on topic a bit GHB is difficult to obtain and entirely too expensive in the US, not worth seeking out over alcohol.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Lsd would definitely be swim's choice here.A little can do so much.