Purity - Cocaine and the other synthetic "caine" substances

[Kittyofftitty]

I know that lidocaine is a common cut with Cocaine
because my of the symptoms are there but it is legal
and cheap. Does anyone know what snorting
lidocaine does....numbness, speediness, dilation,
drip, euphoria? I think I just got a sac that might be
almost all lidocaine seems to be exactly the same
as coke just without the euphoria (which ofcourse is
the best part )

[xawego]

Some weeks ago i've tried a mix of lidocaine with ketamine. Snorting gave to me almost the same feelings like coke do. But when i take a bit of that mix oral, i've feel them both. I feel no difference between coke and lidocaine.

[Kittyofftitty]

Even the euphoria?

[xawego]

Yes, almost the same. Maybe the euphoria is the same because i snort it with a little ketamine, i don't know, i've never used lidocaine only. But i can tell you that a mix from 70% lidocaine and 30% ketamine is worth it

[wednesday]

i can't find much information about it...
is it worth taking?
how much would do what?
orally active?
how IS it active?

i just want to know if its worth taking...and if so in what porportions

thanks
Paul

[daveman]

novacaine is not cocaine, i dont know why its in this forum, novacaine is what the dentists use to numb your mouth. and it tastes horrible bleh

[wednesday]

i understand its not cocaine

my question still stands

[MrJim]

It's here because it is a cocaine derivative. It isn't worth taking. It doesn't give you a high, only makes things go numb.

[enisa1986]

I think that lydocain is some derivat from cocaine, is that thruth? Somebody knowe how is possible to extract lydocain in powder from solution?

sorry for my bad bad english

[Nicaine]

No... Lidocaine only has the local numbing effects of cocaine, not the stimulating or euphoric effects. In other words, it's a local anesthetic that can numb the skin or mouth. Here's more info:

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic3/lidovisc.htm

[Danc9552003]

Nicaine, isn't it the same with procain?

[Nicaine]

Pretty sure it is, yes.

[thadj]

Originally Posted by Danc9552003

Nicaine, isn't it the same with procain?

Procain isn't lidocain.

[Psych0naut]

No it isn't, but Danc9552003 means that it's the same as lidocain, concerning they are both local anesthetics, but lack the euforic effects of cocaine.

[Madcabbie]

Ahh its nice to be back on the forums...anyways



Why do you want to extract the Lidocaine? I'm not sure what your saying. Do you have a liquid or something?


SWIM uses 99% Pure Lidocaine Powder. Luckily it is sold only about an hour away so mail order comes over night for free.

SWIM has used it alot, and it tastes looks and feels like cocaine(a good eye will notice that it doesn't look exactly alike). But it isn't a replacement of cocaine.

SWIM uses it sometimes when coming down in order to slowly ween himself from the coke, so as not to do more and waste it.

[enisa1986]

Hi madcabbie

SWIM has liquid lydocaine and he is interesting in how he can make powder from that liquid
thanks

[pankreeas]

Here's one swim has never encountered yet. Normally on cocaine he and his associates never have the desire or even want to eat anything. Lately tho he has been not only able to, but get the "munchies" like crazy with this new cola.

Could it be some agent in the cut that activates or stimulates appetite ata higher rate than the cocaine supresses it? It is swim just real hungry lately?

[jargoman]

Yes it is possible to extract lidocaide from the powder or liquid. It's simple chemistry. I'm not posting how because it's extremly toxic. Far more toxic than cocaine in fact. And, yes it is a derivative of cocaine. It has the highest toxicity than all cocaine derivatives. It was developed as a non addictive cocaine substitute but was found to be too toxic. That and it doesn't get you high.


Oh and procaine is more comminly known by it's brand name novo-caine.

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[Nagognog2]

No it is NOT a derivative of cocaine. Do your homework before posting on these boards, please. Giving false information will get you bad reputation points - at least. Also re-opening 6 month old threads is generally frowned on.

Also, I don't know what "lidocaide" is, but the thread was about lidocaine.

[beaks]

would lidocaine cause a positive for coke in a urinalysis? I have some mouthwash i got from my doctor for a sore throat and was curious. Seeing as is apparently not the same thing this may be a stupid question but ill take the risk

[jargoman]

When I said lidocaine was a derivative of cocaine i should have said more specifically that it's a derived synthetic analog of cocaine.
Much the same way that benzocaine and procaine are all synthetic analogs of cocaine. They are all carbon ring esters with anesthetic properties and are generally considered to be derivatives of cocaine. They obviously don't use cocaine in the synthesis process instead use -dimethylnitrobenzene. Also while you guys are all out looking for ways to get "high" I'm clean and sober doing my homework!

[tayo]

don't forget cetacaine and novacaine, which SWIM thinks was referred to as procaine, so maybe just dont forget cetacaine. Numbing agents.

interesting note on benzocaine though...

SWIM haaas dipped cigarettes in orajel and let them dry, swim did feel an extra buzz however short lived, did it several times after that, also when orajel was put on weed and ripped from a bong it had some stimulating effect, as well as leaving the lips and tongue nice and tingly.

[stoneinfocus]

hi,

what dio you think of the local anaesthetic effect of coke compared to bezocaine or any other derivatives?

Swim ha some street rocks, on two occasions.

The first rocks were of a good to very good qulity in swim´s opinion, slightly yellow tainted, little gave a decent effect and euphoria/coolness coky-feeling.(probalby cut with (vanilla?)sugar, cuase it had an aromatic/sweet smell to it)

Neither on the mouth mucosa or the nose, there was felt a erasonable numbign effect.

Then there was a rock, that he was given by a friend, and it was snow white.
It was very much more numbing on his mouth mucosa, but unfortutnately it was too little to give an expertiese on purity, but ut was def. coke too.

What do you think of coke being cut with local anaethetics and of lesser purity than other "rocks"?

[Benga]

usually if after one has insufflated a line, the "freeze" effect, ie numbing of the upper nostrils and frontal upper gums lasts for more than 30 minutes it's an indication that some sort of synthetic -caine substance has been added. but this is almost impossible to tell as other substances are used in cuts that inhibit the numbing effect, so the "correct" numbing can be mimicked..

The only thing one can really be sure of is that the synthethic -caine substances ( lido, benzo, pro, buta, tetra etc...) have a stronger, faster enacting and longer local anesthetic than cocaine HCl itself. But then who has tasted pure cocaine HCl to compare ?

if one really wants to find out, there are reagent test for these -caine substances in Adam Gottlieb's "the pleasures of cocaine"


b

[stoneinfocus]

Originally Posted by Benga

The only thing one can really be sure of is that the synthethic -caine substances ( lido, benzo, pro, buta, tetra etc...) have a stronger, faster enacting and longer local anesthetic than cocaine HCl itself. But then who has tasted pure cocaine HCl to compare ?

if one really wants to find out, there are reagent test for these -caine substances in Adam Gottlieb's "the pleasures of cocaine"


b

thanks, benga, that was the answere I was looking for, and swim was immidiately suspicious about the little rock - it numbed so quickly and profoundly more on contact, than swims "real stuff", that he was astonished.