Herbal websites???

[CABS205]

Those crappy herbal websites, that sell those wannabe weed crap, sells salvia too....but, they say it's intended for incense, but people smoke it....Will I feel good, after I smoke Salvia, if I buy it from the net???

[Curtains]

wow...its a way of getting around the legal system, they can't say smoke this shit and it will fuck u up big time, or they'd get in trouble

Think of it as if u were to bong at the local head shop u might notice they have signs saying "for tobacco use only" have u ever met someone that actually uses a bong just for tobacco....but since they are saying its only for tobacco they can sell them

[CABS205]

So they're actually, good to smoke? Or do you think it's the cheap kind???

[Curtains]

YES they are good to smoke

lets look at it again using research chemicals
on the label for a reseach chemical ( ex. 2c-i) it says "not for human consumption" do people still eat it?

[CABS205]

Cuz, on one website it said 10x extract...is that any good??

[Alfa]

That depends on the quality of the extract. Most Salvia 10X will do the trick. Please read the info and experiences on this site. Salvia is very strong stuff.

[CABS205]

Wow, when I saw it on those websites, I was like oh it's just another thing trying to be like weed...I had know idea, it was that strong.

[wednesday]

when im on salvia it seems like it can be my est friend or my worst friend...not my worst enemy...because its just amazing

the point is the effects are wonderful but you have to be careful

you ARE infact a real person who does exist and you have not been livin a lie your whole life

just remember that

Paul

[CABS205]

So it's amazingly strong? Is there anything out there that the high feels the same as salvia???

[OneDiaDem]

A level 3, 4 or 5 mushroom trip that lasts about 10-15 minuites is as close as your going to get to a comparison. Its still different than that tho. It definately does not have the same effects that weed does. This is a very powerful drug. Do not go in thinking it will be mild like weed. I only have smoked 10x and 20x. I prefer the 20x, because I have very sensitive lungs, and this is rather harsh on them, the less I have to inhale the better. But, you have to be careful with how much you inhale with the strength I have. It only takes one medium hit to get to trippin.</font>

[CABS205]

Oh, thanks OneDisDem! That clears a lot up for me! I honestly assumed that Salvia was milder than weed. Hmm, I'll look for it...oh, one more thing...Is 10x stronger than 20x? Or what???

[Curtains]

20x is stronger
(20x) 20 times stronger then normal leaves
(10x) 10 times stronger then normal

[CABS205]

Oh, okay...I wasn't sure because when you stretch your ears out, the gauges get smaller...sorry, that's the only way I could explain it..LOL! Thanks, Curtains! That helps me out a lot!

[thydarkprevails]

Originally Posted by wednesday

you ARE infact a real person who does exist and you have not been livin a lie your whole life

just remember that

Paul

AMEN TO THAT!!! wow...that experience is the exact reason i am somewhat afraid of sally d right now...

[Pinkavvy]

CABS - please understand that salvia is not ANYTHING like weed at all. it's a powerful herb that will induce visions (not to be consfused with visuals that are fun.)

we're talking you leave this reality for what can seem like lifetimes.

be very careful

[CABS205]

Wow, it's that intense!? I guess if I try it, I need someone to watch me huh???

[scyrusurcys]

CABS - YES! You most definitely need someone to watch over you during your experience. Be sure to follow these steps when using Salvia for your first time:


ALWAYS have a sitter. You don't want to be doing something stupid, like finding a gun in your house, or playing with matches while under this influence. Your sitter should be someone you know very well and trust.


To get the most out of smoking Salvia,use a bong, or water bong and a butane lighter to ignite the leaves. Salvia requires a high temperature to be vaporized. Hold the lighter over the leaves for the entire duration of your hit. Hold each hit you take in your lungs for at least 20-30 seconds. After your first hit, exhale all air/smoke from your lungs and without taking a fresh breath of air, take another hit and hold it for 20-30 seconds again. You may want to have a drink handy incase the smoke irritates your throat.


At about your second or third hit, you may start feeling Salvia take control of you. Make sure that you are in a very comfortable area.The best position for inhaling this herb is lying down. Make sure, also,that the room/environment you are in is very dim and very quiet. The slightest amount of noise can throw off your entire trip!


If you follow these simple guidlines, you're sure to have a safe and effective trip with Salvia. Happy smoking!

[OneDiaDem]

I think alot of people are fooled by this drug because it is legal, and can be bought anywhere. That in itself is very decieving, because you dont believe that something this powerful is so readily available, while weed is still illegal.

However, dont be fooled. This is not a drug to be done by yourself. You ~absolutely~ must have someone there who will keep you from getting up and possibly hurting yourself. Reat it with the utmost respect, and she will treat you right. Just be prepared. There are just as many good trip reports as there are bad. This is not something you can talk yourself down from like you can with shrooms. You just have to ride it out. So, in essence, setting, mind frame, and people present are to be the most important factors to prepare for this. There are alot of good tips in this forum. Make sure to read and learn as much as you can before your journey.</font>

[CABS205]

Well, can I use my pipe that I smoke my weed from??? Or do I need something else???

[wednesday]

its a good idea to have a seperate pipe or bong specifically for salvia, but i guess technically you could smoke it from your weed pipe...

Paul

[scyrusurcys]

Make sure it'sa water bong or water pipe, otherwise you'll burn your throat trying to inhale the smoke. Salvia requires a very hot vaporization temperature, so make sure you have a butane lighter to ignite it with.

[CABS205]

Oh!!!!!!!!!! Thank you scyrusurcys! I would've burned my throat trying to smoke it!!!!

[Hazewayz]

how much leaves would u have to smoke...i have a 3 foot glass bong and its insane...water bong





and like a nick bag bowl piece on it...how many bowls would i have to smoke of the leaves to start trippin?

[scyrusurcys]

<div style="text-align: center;"> H</font></span>azeways
- it depends on what kind of leaves you are going to use. You also must
keep in mind that different people have different reactions to Salvia.
Some may smoke a whole bowl and not feel a thing; others may take 2
hits and be out of this world. But, let's say that you were an average
person that is slightly tranced by the inhilation of Salvia:</font></font>

With regular dried leaves</span>,
you may need about 1-3 leaves, depending on what kind of plant it was
grown from and where it was raised. Different types of Salvia Divinorum
plants, such as the ones raised in Hawaii, are far more potent than
some grown in the U.S. or Mexico. If you are using 5x</span>
extract, which is basically the potency of 50 leaves forced into 10
leaves, (50 divided by 10 = 5[x]) then you would only need about a
small bowlful. With 10x</span>
extract, you would only need 1/2 of what you would use for the 5x.
Finally, if you use the most potent extract available on the market, 20x</span>, you would only need 1/4 or less of what you would use for 5x.

Most people that smoke Salvia say that they feel the oncoming of their
trip, on average, within the 3rd hit; others say that it takes 4
or 5 hits. But if you plan to smoke this plant, make sure you use a
water bong and a butane or torch lighter. Salvia has a high
vaporization point and should ONLY be used under the supervision of a trustworthy friend</span>. You never know what you might do under the influence of this herb.

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[geordie]

if it only lasts 15 mins would it be a good idea to a have a freind watch over me while i do it then swap places wen i come down and watch him?