Drug info - The Legal Aspects of Ordering Benzodiazepines Online

[junglistNside]

People have heard that it is possible to purchase benzos online. In the US I can only imagine there is a risk associated with this.

Does anyone know what the legalities are? I have heard that some sites have Dr.s that administer scripts making it legal.
I do know of someone who has done this sucessfully, this person however is a snob and wants his knowledge all to himself. The shitty thing is that the guy doesn't even profit form it, he keeps everything for himself. Some people......

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[Jatelka]

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[kritikal]

Im sure he can be told advice on whether or not it would be safe to purchase them online. Not actually telling him WHERE to purchase them.

I Suggest you google about online prescriptions

[junglistNside]

honestly wanst looking for a source. just experiences or knowledge as to if it is even a realistic thing to do. It seems like the sites are there to bait people but I cant see how it would be legal. I wouldnt try myself at anyrate. Just asking out of curiosity

[jduba]

a lot of sites have docs that will give you an online consultation and seems to be legal. swim has signed up with a couple pharmacies, all have been shut down but one over time, and new ones surface in there place. swIm has been concerned a couple times wondering what was done with his info after they have shut down but swim has never had any bad experiences so far (fingers crossed). Also there are a lot of scammers out there so beware, just be sure to do your homework b4 doing business

[fly]

hi i am a stewardess and use sometimes a benzo to be well rested for a long trip!
where can you buy cheap diazepam or oxazepam on the internet? i live in the netherlands, aren't there any online pharmacy's in mexico or somewhat?

xxxess BEA

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[acidfrk]

Swim heard that there are companies that sell drugs online (with only the completion of an online medical questionnaire), such as valium, ativan and xanax. Basically, they are saying that a dr's visit "online"(the questionnaire) will suffice for buying these perscription drugss. Is this true?

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Probably not.Swiy would be better off not triffling with it.

[tayo]

it's possible that some doctor is licensed somewhere and ships it out. some places do ship all sorts of rx drugs, whether to trust them is another thing.

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[Orchid_Suspiria]

Trusting them could be rather risky.

[jbmac]

Yes - many web sites sell valium for XXX or more a pill, no doctor needed - very expensive!

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[Orchid_Suspiria]

Not only would swiy be risking getting ripped off they might also be risking legal troubles.

[rxbandit]

There are many online pharmacys that will send prescriptions illegally to the united states. I have heard several accounts of law enforcement officers showing up at peoples houses over these sort of orders. Many of these are based in foreign countrys and in these countrys many knock off pharmaceuticals are produced with little regard for regulation.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Ah yah swiy might not even get what they ordered.What is meant to be diazepam turns out being some wretched thing like trazodone or something akin to coricidin.Then swiy can't read the label and doesn't recognize the foreign pill,so swiy takes what they think is a recreational dose of diazepam and gets a horrid surprise.

[cyndi]

Well there are several options for the online ordering stuff. Yes highly illegal. First you have the rop consult, get the meds in the us next day. Then the iops, these are the foreign places that you gamble on. The stuff sold in the us tends to bring on more busts as DEA needs no permission for a country to give consent. IOPs, usually you will get a warning letter, but there has been busts concerning IOPs. DEA is really cracking down on meds in the mail. Again as mentioned one chances fake meds or what is swiy getting really as it may not be what swiy ordered. Not worth the risk in swim's opinion.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Most definitely not worth the risk,all anyone would have to do is look at other posts on this subject to see that.

[lulz]

I've been trawling for online sources for about a year now, and I've come across perhaps a dozen legit benzo sources. The legit ones never offer prescriptions, and rarely have a website. They also offer FAR lower prices than the websites that offer prescriptions.

If I was SWIY, I wouldn't order from any website that offers to sell controlled medication with a prescription too. They nearly always seem to be scams, or massively overpriced.

[Laudaphun]

First I would like to say that I am not a lawyer or expert by any means, so basically anything I am saying in this post is merely based on what I've read and common sense. Although I believe that this information is accurate, I do not claim that any of this information is 100% accurate. Also, it applies to the United States. You must also keep in mind that even within the United States, laws can vary from state to state.

There are indeed places where you can order pharmaceuticals without a prescription, but one would generally be well advised to heed the old saying, "if it is too good to be true, then it probably is."

Some confusion may arise because the FDA has pointed out that the agency would not enforce the import prohibition when consumers with deadly diseases import drugs that are not available in the U.S.

As far as controlled substances that are available from legit pharmacies that won't rip you off works like this... A certain coutnry sells certain meds over the counter which are prescription in the United States. Now, since they are over-the-counter in the country where the pharmacy is located, it is perfectly legal for them to sell them to someone without a prescription, however it is illegal for the person to actually recieve the medication in the United States for example because it requires a prescription. So the pharmacy is abiding by the laws of their country by shipping the meds which are over the counter in their country. However, you are breaking the law in your country where you recieve them at because they require a prescription in the United States. I hope I'm explaining this so people can understand. Legal for them to sell/ship them but Illegal for you to order/receive them due to different laws between different countries. In most instances, the medications available from these types of pharmacies are typically low grade controlled substances in the U.S., such as codiene, codeine w/ APAP, ultram, and stuff like that. I know of only one benzo off the top of my head that is available OTC in the country I'm thinking about and it's not even available in the United States, but it is especially toxic in comparison with most other benzos and responsible for liver damage at higher doses or from regular use from what I hear.

There is a lot of misinformation regarding online pharmacies lately, partly because of all the scam artists, partly because online pharmacies twist words around to get you to order from them, and partly because our government can pass a new bill or law whenever and when they do so, we don't necessarily find out about it in a timely manner. There are many pharmacies that will ship you your meds, others that will just keep your money, and others still that will ship you counterfeit/fake meds. In the United States, to combat these online pharmacies as it is a growing problem in the eyes of our government, I beleive they passed some law that basically says that you must see a physician in person at least once before he is legally able to prescribe you any medication, hence the telephone consultations could technically get you busted. On the otherhand, there are a few online pharmacies out there who will supposedly send a Dr. to your house to give you a physical so that you can supposedly legally recieve presciptions from him/her after that. But, the prices after you pay for everything is the same or maybe even more than you would pay on the street. And you will not get anything higher than schedule 3.

From what I've heard, most people who mess around with ROP (online pharmacies which require medical records) normally get what they want, but they must have CURRENT medical records for the problem which they seek medication, and by current I mean within the past 2 years or something like that. While this may or may not be legal (I don't know for certain), I've only heard of people being busted when ordering from these type of pharmacies for double-dipping, meaning they are basically trying to order from multiple pharmacies which is most definitely illegal whether it is an online deal or doctor's office's in your own town.

Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, then it most likely is.

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[cyndi]

Swim thinks the original poster was asking about nrops, this is where you fill out a questionaire and voila drugs come via some way to swiy's house. Oh yes definitely illegal. Rops are getting busted and customers are having visits from the DEA about some of these places, so yeah not legal there either. Even if only one ROP is being used. Best to use common sense with prescription medications. Many still order but it is a gamble you know? Swim doesn't want anyone to think it is a legal practice. Oh yes the portamedic is also being challenged in the courts, so swim isn't sure of the legality there. Technically it is a face to face but swim doesn't know of many places that do that. It used to be common. Swim couldn't see herself going to Walgreens with a script from a place like that.

[CHEMDUDE]

never had aproblem getting diazys online without a perscription.but if one has a perscription from "a DR" THEN THERE IS NOTHING THE LAW CAN DO ABOUT IT ACORDING TO MY SOLICITOR..c_d

[rxbandit]

swim tried soma once... he was sitting on his couch looking at the clock. a moment later theres was drool all over his lap and the clock had progressed two hours like it was nothing. Not a good time in swims opinion.

I find it interesting that the out of country pharmaceuticals are being targeted. I mean they are even targeting the non recreational ones... is one right in his assumption that the pharmaceutical monopoly has something to do with this move in the war on drugs...

[Nagognog2]

How embarrassing. Getting arrested at your doorstep by the police delivering your Valium - which turns out to be rat-poison made in China and turned into blue tablets in India marked VALUIIM and cost $30 a pill. If I was a lawyer, I'd laugh you out of my office and send you to Legal Aid.

[raven3davis]

If you can buy it in real life, you can probably buy it on the internet.....somewhere...from someone, who may or may not be trustworthy. Its a gamble you take but there is always a gamble in gray area markets as such.