Police State UK

[Evil GIR]

Its all doom, doom, doom

so i was on my way to work when i found these signs dotted about the place



Now looking closer its all doom, doom, doom I say FUCK THE POLICE !!!!!!




So how the fuck can this be allowed and what are they listeing in on, its now dam well scary just to be walking down the street with some pig fucker listening in on what you are saying. I just think the audio thing is going WAY TO FAR.

[English_T]

Yep, it's fucking amazing how this government have totally fucked the people. They just 'slip' shit through before anyone has even heard or believed it possible. I mean look at the mass immigration, I don't know one english guy who voted for that. Yet they have flooded the country and even are giving out nationality like it is worthless now. Some of those guys arrested for planning bombings were from Morroco and Somalia, they had been in the UK for a couple of years or so and all had UK passports, wtf??? how is this happening. The heroin/hard drugs in London is totally run by the Turkish - London has a higher number of immigrants than actual english people.Used to be proud to be part of the UK, not any more, anyone with any sort of qualification wants out.

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Racist tripe. Please leave these sorts of views behind when posting here, especially when they have no basis in fact.

[kneal6]

Originally Posted by English_T

Some of those guys arrested for planning bombings were from Morroco and Somalia, they had been in the UK for a couple of years or so and all had UK passports, wtf??? how is this happening. The heroin/hard drugs in London is totally run by the Turkish - London has a higher number of immigrants than actual english people.

London has more immigrants than English people and it's one of the greatest cities in the world. You think that's a coincidence? All the people responsible for the 7/7 attacks were British born, but I notice you've forgotten about that and highlighted the foreigners. Have you ever lived in another country?

I'll tell you what, why don't you throw out all the "foreigners", and bring back all the people from other countries who originally came from this island - that includes most of the white population of America, South Africa, Australia... you'd be fucking swamped.

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Flaming is not allowed here. Read the rules!

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Originally Posted by English_T

Yep, it's fucking amazing how this government have totally fucked the people. They just 'slip' shit through before anyone has even heard or believed it possible. I mean look at the mass immigration, I don't know one english guy who voted for that. Yet they have flooded the country and even are giving out nationality like it is worthless now. Some of those guys arrested for planning bombings were from Morroco and Somalia, they had been in the UK for a couple of years or so and all had UK passports, wtf??? how is this happening. The heroin/hard drugs in London is totally run by the Turkish - London has a higher number of immigrants than actual english people.Used to be proud to be part of the UK, not any more, anyone with any sort of qualification wants out.

Hard drugs are all ran by the Turkish in London?Swim HIGHLY doubts that.Swim has never been to London but this sounds almost like some conservative rant,swim hopes that is not considered flaming!It wasn't meant to be.Swim isn't criticising this person just their thinking.Smack crosses all lines and it's a massive business with many involved.Maybe even someone swiy knows.

[Sky Walker]

Your right, it has already gone WAY too far. How could this be aloud? Well, I suspect it actually isn't and that a number of privacy laws are being broken, to pieces. Audio or not, currently up to 90% of the U.Ks cctv cameras could very well be illegal and in breech of the Information Commissioner's code: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...t=cctv+illegal

A real sense of fear is creeping my way, damn our government! Damn us, for letting this shit happen...

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Unnecessary profanity, even if I agree with the sentiment so far as the police/Gov't go anyway. Please edit.

[Purest]

I hate the CCTV over here. Theres 1 camera for every 4 people.

Whats worse is they're installing a CCTV system linked to the police station at the park where SWIM and his friends hang out.

Urgh, this country will soon become completely Orwellian.

[Micklemouse]

Interesting how the totally off topic racist post with little or no basis in fact, does not get reported but the above post does, because it could be seen as flaming when it is reacting to an inflammatory comment... Racism will not be tolerated here.

English T, please post some stats about the population of London to back up your claims.

From the 2001 Census

Ethnic Group (all people)

White---------------------------------------------5103203 --
Largest minority ethnic group(s)Indian (436993)
Black African -----------------------------------(378933)
Black Caribbean ------------------------------(343567)

Place of birth (all people)

Born in UK --------------------------------------5229187 --
Born elsewhere in EU (inc Rep Ireland) 377048 --
Born outside EU ------------------------------1565856 --

So, born in the UK = 5229187, not born in the UK = 1942904. Even with the inflow of immigrants nationwide slightly outstripping the outflow, I cannot see the immigrant population of London outweighing the British born population anytine soon.

Kneal6 is almost correct in his statement that all the 7/7 bombers were English born - 3 were English, the 4th was Jamaican.

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1398042005

This still doesn't change the fact that CCTV coverage has been steadily growing in this country for many years, - the first experiments beginning in the 70's, & hitting the mainstream in 1994 - far longer than the War on Supposed Terror has been a concern

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television

Surveillance of public areas in the United Kingdom by CCTV was developed partly in response to IRA bombings. Experiments in the UK during the 1970s and 1980s (including outdoor CCTV in Bournemouth in 1985), led to several larger trial programs in the early 1990s. These were deemed successful in the government report "CCTV: Looking Out For You", issued by the Home Office in 1994, and paved the way for a massive increase in the number of CCTV systems installed. Today, systems cover most town and city centres, and many stations, car-parks and estates. The exact number of CCTV cameras in the UK is not known but a 2002 working paper by Michael McCahill and Clive Norris of UrbanEye[1], based on a small sample in Putney High Street, estimated the number of surveillance cameras in private premises in London is around 400,000 and the total number of cameras in the UK is around 4,000,000. The UK has one camera for every 14 people.

[kneal6]

Originally Posted by Micklemouse

Interesting how the totally off topic racist post with little or no basis in fact, does not get reported but the above post does, because it could be seen as flaming when it is reacting to an inflammatory comment... Racism will not be tolerated here.

English T, please post some stats about the population of London to back up your claims.

From the 2001 Census

So, born in the UK = 5229187, not born in the UK = 1942904. Even with the inflow of immigrants nationwide slightly outstripping the outflow, I cannot see the immigrant population of London outweighing the British born poulation anytine soon.

Kneal6 is almost correct in his statement that all the 7/7 bombers were English born - 3 were English, the 4th was Jamaican.

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1398042005

This still doesn't change the fact that CCTV coverage has been steadily growing in this country for many years, - the first experiments beginning in the 70's, & hitting the mainstream in 1994 - far longer than the War on Supposed Terror has been a concern

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television

Yes indeed, people in the UK are *very* highly monitored - police cars have cameras with licence plate recognition, that's just insane.

Also, Merseyside is now trialling surveillence drones for use at matches and other public events (actually that's just what they said on the news, they're actually using it to spy on council estates!). These are basically little remote control helicopters that have cameras on them that can fly around snooping on people. check it out., and here. The thing that scares me about them is, there's already face recognition software in widespread use in casinos, it'd be well within the government's power to track all of our movements all the time. The technology's there, it wouldn't even need a lot of manpower now they've got the drones. Scary scary stuff.

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Your right, good links too.

[Alfa]

We have reality TV about the London CCTV and how they get criminals with it. The amount of camera's in London is massive.

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by Alfa

We have reality TV about the London CCTV and how they get criminals with it. The amount of camera's in London is massive.

When I was in London (4 city trips) and Birmingham (3 month exchange) I was equally surprised at the amount of cameras.
Around here, you only see them around banks.

[Evil GIR]

There is also a system they are developing that has computers following your movment if you behaviour seems suspicious. Scary really.

[Triple7]

There is development of software, such that it can read from body movements who a person is. So let say a person is a masked robbed, then this software is supposed to pick suspects from its database

UK has most cameras in the world.

About that DNA stuff. In Sweden they try to pass laws where it is a obligation to sample all fingerprints and DNA samples of all kids with criminal or suspictious parents. Minority Report. Police also illegally use samples from the national blood bank. I wouldn't be surprised if this also happens in USA and UK.

[grecian]

Originally Posted by Sky Walker

How could this be aloud?

Intended pun or accidental linguistic error? Either way made me laugh.

Another worrying issue is that of DNA samples being taken regardless of whether charges are brought against the person in question or what crime has allegedly been commited. For example, 4 of swims friends were arrested a couple of years ago under suspicion of vandalism, only 1 of them knew his rights and he is the only one who didnt have his DNA sampled.

It is claimed to be the largest DNA database in the world with over 5 per cent of the population sampled and "it has already emerged that the DNA profiles of about 24,000 children and young people aged 10 to 18 are stored on the database despite them never having been cautioned, charged or convicted of an offence".

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...icle357642.ece

As far as CCTV in the UK goes I think the artwork below sums it up.

[Sky Walker]

Originally Posted by grecian

Intended pun or accidental linguistic error? Either way made me laugh.

I'd like to say it was an intended pun and I'll just not say, it was a linguistic error.

Originally Posted by grecian

Another worrying issue is that of DNA samples being taken regardless of whether charges are brought against the person in question or what crime has allegedly been commited. For example, 4 of swims friends were arrested a couple of years ago under suspicion of vandalism, only 1 of them knew his rights and he is the only one who didnt have his DNA sampled.

When Billy Smarts was arrested on possession/cultivation/supply charges along with his brother and friend, they were all processed in the same manner. This included having our entire hand and finger prints taken as well as our DNA samples. Billy Smarts was a little perplexed when this DNA taking was proposed to him. He thought it was complete madness (he also thought he had some human rights or something) and simply refused to give a sample. That is of course until a second or two passed and they kindly informed him that he MUST give them the sample, at which point Billy retorted he really didn't want to and inquired what would happen if he just outright refused. Well, turns out, had Billy continued down that path he would have quickly found himself in the uncomfortable embrace of several burly men poking at his tightly shut mouth. Not at all appealing, Billy gave the bastards what they wanted, and trotted unhappily to his cell.