Salvia or DMT

[Salim]

Which is best? I have tried only salvia but I'm hoping to get my hands on some DMT in the near future.

[serotonin]

i would say DMT is far better, but as always it depends completely on personal prefernce. DMT is alot stronger.

[Antidote]

Definitely give it a lot of thought before trying DMT; tryptamenes are not something to be taken lightly

[wednesday]

its not really a question that can easily be answered for the fact that everyone likes diferent things, everyone reacts differently...how easily available DMT is for you (salvia is easy to get)

but for me personally i love salvia and have yet to try DMT but i would probably stick with my lady sally

Paul

[Paderas]

Has anyone here ever tried or considered to combine the two?!

[Tavz]

Does DMT produce the same "pulling" effect that Salvia does, god I hate that.

[jessicawabbit85]

What kind of high do you get from Salvia?

[Paderas]

I'm asking because i read one trip report from someone who claimed to have done the two together...



http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=8842



But it's so crazy that i was curious for a second oppinion...

[hacnslash]

i think there'd be more of a chance to pass out than to actually experience what that guy reported...plus it was in so much detail, i doubt the truthfullness of what he says.

[Paderas]

I also question the truthfullness, but seeing it's two of the strongest drugs i would expect some crazy shit!

LSD + salvia was a very rewarding and memorable experience. I would
expect the same would be true of DMT + salvia, although it might be
even more powerful and possibly unpleasantly pushy.



I would also try to discriminate between DMT-containing plants, which
often contain other compounds, notably 5-MeO-DMT, and pure DMT extract.
Eating something that contains 5-MeO-DMT will result in a pushier trip
(5-MeO being "the power" and DMT "the glory"), and that plus salvia
could get nasty PDQ.



If DMT is anything like DPT, I expect I would prefer DMT to salvia by
far. But to say DMT is a lot stronger might be misleading. Salvia can
be very, very strong. Ever smoked a bowl of 20x? You become an alien
being.

[WhiteRyan]

Is DMT anything like SALVIA in personal experiences. If so Im not going near it. The Salvia god hates me, and doesnt appreciate me using him. I do not appreciate him either.

[PrideKills]

You can't really even compare the two.

[Darthcarlos]

dmt definatley.

[mariecurie]

From a large group of my friends who have experienced both salvia and
DMT, the opinion is unanimously that DMT is MUCH, MUCH better than
salvia.



DMT is probably the most powerful hallucinogen in the eyes of really
experienced trippers. Salvia, while it definitely can produce some
warped shit, is often more messed up and scary at large doses than
useful. Ripping a huge bowl of 20X standardized extract is just
terrifying.

[thydarkprevails]

DMT without a doubt

[billbong]

It's down to personnal preference, mine is salvia (i need to experiment more with dmt though). Ithink it would be hard to do both as soon as you exhale they both hit HARD Edited by: billbong

[QGdoxl]

Swim has used salvia >10x now with 5x extract and has found salvia can be very scary, is DMT like this?

[QGdoxl]

Originally Posted by billbong

It's down to personnal preference, mine is salvia (i
need to experiment more with dmt though). Ithink it would be hard to do
both as soon as you exhale they both hit HARD

mix 'em in the same bowl?

[9-thc4me]

Salvia and DMT? I dont know how you can even compare then at all. Both are out of body experiences, however they are completely unlike the other. However I can see how one would use the other to describe it considering that both really have few other drugs that can be considered similar.


DMT is my personal favorite and I definitely say hallucinations and mind body dissoc. is much much higher than salvia. Salvia makes you feel things that arent there and its possible to move around on savlia, also you dont lose touch completely with reality. It's like a zipper just pulls over your world. When DMT is done, its more like you fall on your ass and lose all touch with reality.

[intrepid]

dmt is pretty cool, only wish it lasted a bit longer heh, though i
guess it's good for newer folks cause it's not gonna be riding on ya
for hours on end. dmt is definitely more powerful than salvia,
i've done both on many occaisions and i've never had an experience
anywhere near as earthshattering as dmt when using salvia, but i guess
if you wanna work up slowly to the crazier stuff, salvia's a good choice.

[transit]

In response to
the question above about combining Salvia and DMT, the quote below by Zoe Seven
< http://www.zoe7.com/ > describes a
bit of his understanding of his experiences resulting from combining Salvia and
Ayahuasca (he has a book coming out shortly with much of it apparently relating
to these experiences). </span>Ahahuasca is a
method in which DMT (or more typically plants, such as Psychotria viridis,
which contain DMT) is taken orally and remains active due to the inclusion of
MAO inhibitors (usually in the form of plants such as Banisteriopsis caapi).</span>


</span>




Over the past couple of
years I have developed not only a relationship with these two shamanic teacher
plants but have also done this with their "offspring"...</span>




But, what is it like when
one combines ayahuasca together with salvia divinorum? Immediately two words
come to mind: real magic. And it is something one really has to experience in
order to comprehend. After many times of experiencing this alchemy of ayahuasca
and salvia divinorum I can not only talk about the experience but can actually
understand it.</span>




According to Rupert
Sheldrake's morphic theory, all species including insects, animals, and plants
have their own morphic field. This field serves as a pattern, which any given
species uses as a blueprint in order to draw its characteristics and literally
form its existence. Based on this theory, both the plants that make up the ayahuasca
brew as well as salvia divinorum have their own corresponding morphic fields,
which house their blueprints. However, the merger of the two teacher plant's
essences spawned a third 'force'. And, as a result, a new morphic field
carrying that new genetic information was created resulting in a new species, a
hybrid. And that's what's accessed when one mixes ayahuasca and salvia
divinorum.</span>

[a-SalviaLover]

Originally Posted by 9-thc4me

Salvia and DMT? I dont know how you can even compare then at all. Both are out of body experiences, however they are completely unlike the other. However I can see how one would use the other to describe it considering that both really have few other drugs that can be considered similar.


DMT is my personal favorite and I definitely say hallucinations and mind body dissoc. is much much higher than salvia. Salvia makes you feel things that arent there and its possible to move around on savlia, also you dont lose touch completely with reality. It's like a zipper just pulls over your world. When DMT is done, its more like you fall on your ass and lose all touch with reality.

Combine Salvia and Special K and you'll see whether you lose touch with reality or not. The outer world is only one of the hundreds of realities you reach on this combo. I've read a trip report with a dose at about 3 mg pure Salvinorin and what I've experinced with Salvia+Ketamine is similar (note that I'm using plain leaves, not extracts). It reduces the disforia and really potenciates the trip. And I don't know why but it's somewhat addictive in a way like an ether binge. It produces a desire to smoke more and to snort more K. The last time I did this I smoked and snorted 4 times and was in outer space for 5 hours or so. It was a terriffic trip!

[a-SalviaLover]

Haven't tried DMT though. I wish I were able to obtain it in my country, but it's not likely to happen soon!

[Marsofold]

You can extract it yourself from several kinds of plants. Even if all ethnogens were banned, certain Acacia trees and the Desmanthus Illinoisis plantcommonly grown as livestock feed contain DMT. Never give up...