Opinions - is cocaine HCl better than crack cocaine ?

[Blackhoody]

swim would say lasting longer. Crack is very fun but so annoying as its only lasts around 5 minutes. Sniffing stuff is fun swim love the process as well. So swim would have to say swim loves coke more than crack. Crack is just so dirty when i think about it.


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[dbjay417]

SWIM believes cocaines power as a narcotic stems from two major points.

The first is that its time tested. True many things can go wrong using cocaine, but still cocaine was once legal and used in medicinal products, and even after it was illegalized, millions of American cocaine users survived the 70's and 80's relativly unharmed and continue to lead decent lives to this day. To SWIM this says, coke can be bad in the wrong hands, but is not necessarily bad itself, like guns or even cars.

Secondly cocaine has tremendous social appeal. First, there is the matter of the high which supplies energy and strips away inhabition. But there is a whole other social angle to cocaine that has nothing to do with using it. Simply posessing cocaine makes a person the center of attention. People who are also doing coke see you as a "comrade". People who you share your coke with are your best friends (until you run out). People who want to do coke will kiss your ass, and people who don't do coke will shy away from you like your some kinda bad ass. Hell swim has laid with girls that were way out of his league due to simply posessing cocaine. Under the influence, you dont even care if they only want you for your coke. You just take what you want and either you share the wealth or you send them packin.

Crack on the other hand has no glamour. Most people even a lot of coke users buy into the "crackhead" stereotype. The meer mention of crack conjurs images of toothless low lives stealing from their mothers and deformed drug addicted newborns. Some people know better than to buy into the stereotype, but the greater majority truely believe it. SWIM works with casual crack users, they show up every day and put in their 8 hours without much fuss, and as far as swim is concerned whatever they do with their legally earned money is their own business so long as it doesn't effect their job preformance. Unfortunately most people have no such experience, or they do and they dont know it because crack use tends to be the sort of thing people hide.

SWIMs never smoked crack before but SWIM really does believe that the drastic social differences weigh heavily on the subconsious mind and can alter your perception of your experiences.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Crack is a dirty and worthless drug in swims eyes.A few second,jittery high?Atleast coke is somewhat pleasureable.Swim has seen too many crackheads and some of them are just,well fucked up.

[Swimster]

SWIM believes cocaines power as a narcotic stems from two major points.

sorry, but cocaine is not a narcotic.

Anyway: crack is dominating to cocaine anyday, ALTHOUGH...cocaine lasts alot longer in duration. As far as moderation, and health-wise, and good habit goes, cocaine is ALOT more forgiving than crack. Although your septum can get pretty damaged with cocaine(p).

[dbjay417]

bad wording on SWIMs part, thanks for bringing that to SWIMs attention.

[Swimster]

lol- has swim been reading articles by the DEA.
As they seem to think almost everything is a narcotic.
j/k
anyway, o-well.

[Nacumen]

Cocaine is really no more a narcotic than marijuana.

[dbjay417]

legal (non medical) terminology is the angle SWIM was working when refering to coke as a narcotic, but thats neither here nor there.

To redirect the thread to its original purpose.

Crack has a horrid public image that i believe is rightfully earned.

Cocaine is much more docile, and is still revered as Americas Party drug.

[Nacumen]

Originally Posted by dbjay417

Cocaine is much more docile, and is still revered as Americas Party drug.

Hmm I think that's quite the claim. Many others (including myself) would think otherwise.

[Mr.E.Charlie]

Cocaine has quite a social appeal to it . It is a big jump from sniffing cocaine powder in a nightclub toilet with a group of friends to smoking crack alone in a run-down appartement . Stereotypes play a big part as Coke users are stereotyped as rich , glamorous socialites , while Crack users are stereotyped as jobless , hideous , thieving lowlives . Im not saying these stereotypes are right , but i do agree . Coke is gamourised , especially when you consider the highest ( no pun intended ) of socialites and celebrities such as Lindsay Lohan , Britney Spears , Kate Moss use cocaine , while Pete Doherty , Whitney Houston use Crack . Who can blame those who stereotype Coke and Crack ? I dont think Crack is dominating at all , Coke will always be glamourised and Crack will always be put down and frowned upon .

[dbjay417]

everyone prefer a different poison for different reasons, but SWIMs experience definately tells him that, crack users hide in the bathroom, and cocaine users have free run of the second largest suitable surface available, usually a kitchen table or coffee table (the first largest being used for beer pong).

Even in environments with small groups of friends with different habits, SWIM has noticed that a lot of crack smokers don't like people seeing them smoke crack. You can smell it burn, and hear it crackle, but God forbid you should see them smoking. Coke and pot are the only two drugs SWIM seen used openly, with the rare occasion of insufflatable heroine or pills.

[someone111]

but the thing is swim is addicted to coke but doesnt find crack to be addictive.... is that strange?

[dbjay417]

SWIM believes that to be unusual, however SWIM must say that it took SWIM some months to develop a cocaine addiction, as swim tends not to become easily addicted to anything, not cigarettes, or opiates, or pot or even scratch tickets.

SWIM finds that addiction forms with time, frequency, and quality of high and also the quality of the over all experience you have under the influence.

[tayo]

well... Scarface didn't smoke crack nor did George Jung in Blow. Some might say it is more classy and glorified. And imagine someone trying to snort an 8 ball, it's possible, now imagine someone trying to smoke the equivalent in that same amount of time with crack, that would suck and take a while. Plus the high lasts longer.

[bluecow]

SWIM thinks each has its own merits.SWIM generally uses cocaine but every now and again a good blow out on the pipe can be fun. SWIM thinks that they both suit different occasions. SWIM uses cocaine when SWIM goes out and sometimes when staying in with the other half. Crack is definately an indoors drug, to be done occasionally. As it can get out of hand

[f12button]

SWIM has friends who do cocaine and crack. They have explained the difference to him. He doesn't view them as any different at all, they just like the intense rush of a crack hit. SWIM has also taken crack hits, mainly in the form of cig dips, and finds it pretty interesing, although none of the "do it once, you're addicted" sterotype. Cocaine, on the other hand, has him passively wanting more.

He prefers the yay, but doesn't mind a crack hit once in a while. He finds it to just be a pick-me-up, mainly when he's picking up

I do believe dbjay's post is right on.

[dbjay417]

SWIMs not sure there is any substance in exsistance that will instantly make an addict out of a person. Maybe the PERSON has a predisposition to addiction and happens to get addicted the first time, but SWIM has done his fair share of drugs and addictive substances, and turned his back on all but coke, and alcohol. SWIM isn't addicted to alcohol though SWIM just drinks because SWIM was raised in a home where drinking is what adults did when they wanted to unwind, and so SWIM learned to do the same.

[Rio Fantastic]

People also tend to limit there crack use because of society's view on it being very addictive, whilst cocaine can be taken openly, and many users think that another bump here and there can't be that bad. As a result, most cokeheads seem to think they're better then crackheads.

[Mr.E.Charlie]

crack is stereotyped constantly as a dirty drug , as with heroin , but some people would look at coke and think of it as dirty . Everyone has different opinions and views and in SWIM's opinion , crack is much less appealing .
Coke powder will always be seen by most people as the better , more classy and acceptable form of cocaine and crack will always be seen as a dirty , antisocial drug which is used by distasteful low-lives . It may not be SWIY's opinion but that's just how it is .
If , say , a famous person is discovered to be a coke user , then they will be seen as just a social and party loving person (Lindsay Lohan for example , or Robbie Williams , whatever .) and many openly admit to it . But if they are found to be using crack , then they are seen as immoral junkies who are out of control and are a waste of a life , and most will deny it , although they look horrific , Whitney Houston is best example ( The hillarious and ironic "Crack is Wack" statement ) . That is SWIM's opinion on the coke/crack subject .

[dbjay417]

The bottom line is that we're talking about public perception of illegal narcotics. Its not like a crack user can take a public stance and say "The world has unfairly stereotyped my drug of choice!".

People won't listen because you'll be written off as a drugged out crackhead, even if a few open minded people did listen, the minute you showed any sort of instability in your life, they'd immediately blame it on the crack smoking.

The way SWIM chose what drugs he would and wouldn't use was simple. SWIM asked himself "Could SWIM ever tell SWIMs mom SWIM smoked crack or shot up heroin, could SWIM look his mother square in the face and tell her he had sunk to the lowest levels of drug use?" SWIM desided he couldn't, and SWIM has a strict policy of never willfully doing anything he'd be ashamed to cop to. So SWIM has never gone down those roads and God willing, never will.

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excellent post and good method of abstaining

[cstu]

Originally Posted by dbjay417

The bottom line is that we're talking about public perception of illegal narcotics. Its not like a crack user can take a public stance and say "The world has unfairly stereotyped my drug of choice!".

People won't listen because you'll be written off as a drugged out crackhead, even if a few open minded people did listen, the minute you showed any sort of instability in your life, they'd immediately blame it on the crack smoking.

The way SWIM chose what drugs he would and wouldn't use was simple. SWIM asked himself "Could SWIM ever tell SWIMs mom SWIM smoked crack or shot up heroin, could SWIM look his mother square in the face and tell her he had sunk to the lowest levels of drug use?" SWIM desided he couldn't, and SWIM has a strict policy of never willfully doing anything he'd be ashamed to cop to. So SWIM has never gone down those roads and God willing, never will.

Exactly right! SWIM could tell their mom that they got caught in the party lifestyle in LA and was talked into doing coke. SWIM's mom wouldn't be happy about it, but it would be far cry from having a "crack head" or heroin addict kid. Seems shallow, but I think they're an important thing to keep in mind when choosing what drugs to try. For this reason, SWIM will never try crack, meth or heroin.

[Mr.E.Charlie]

SWIM could openly tell anyone that he uses coke , ecstasy , speed and speed but would be ashamed to say he ever even thought of trying crack or heroin . Those two drugs are beyond recreational drugs like MDMA or Cocaine powder , and in SWIM's opinion a waste of time and waste of life .

[someone111]

swim looks at coke just as bad as crack so its not stereotype for him..... swim loves coke more than crack for some reason and swim just wants to no if there are more ppl who also like coke more than crack.... not because crack makes you look bad but the feeling it gives you.... swim is just confused about why he dont like crack more.... most ppl get addicted to crack and not coke but swim is straight addicted to coke but does not find crack addictive.... swim knows its not because of stereotype though

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim has never cared much for coke or crack.Swim can see the appeal but for the most part most crack and cokeheads he knows are selfish,aggressive,arrogant,paranoid.They just aren't the type swim wants to hang out with.Ofcourse some would pass judgement on swim for his drug of choice so he doesn't really like passing judgement on others for theirs.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim used to not feel alot of sympathy for those claiming to be addicted to cocaine because of the fact no serious physical withdrawals exist.Now swim feels bad about this as he is sure mental withdrawals can be as torturous as physical ones.