Opinions - is cocaine HCl better than crack cocaine ?

[i like wimmins]

Swim was thinking about it today. he had smoked crack many times, generally purchasing it because it was readily available (and he was drunk), but he has come to realize that its very possible that he hates the stuff.
True, the high is pretty intense, but he no longer thinks that its worth it. Unlike the (relatively) slow comedown of coke, shortly after a haul of crack, it feels like to high is being torn out of him. Where he was once rushing and sweaty, he is instantly and unbearably wet and cold - and craving another pull with an almost dangerous desire. And the high isn't even all that good. SWIM would much rather a nice line instead of a lungfull, but he can't seem to think when under the influence of rock.
Also, it goes SO fast! It doesn't seem to matter whether SWIM purchases a 40-piece or a 100-piece, they're both gone like that! SWIM has had enough troubles with spending too much cash on Snow, but he has found himself borrowing money to futily try and maintain a crack buzz.
SWIM is generally a VERY generous person when it comes to sharing his narcotics, but he becomes an instantaneous/unreachable fiendy dick-wad after hitting the pipe. His friends have all been put out by these actions. watching as he pathetically crawls his floor for the rock he is convinced he dropped. None of them seem to get this bad, wtf?
It wouldn't upest him so much if the high was truly amazing, but, as he has stated, it is mediocre at best. But the fiending seems to come from nowhere - out of the lack of a high, as opposed to the wish to prolong the high itself.

Anyone out there in a simliar boat?Edited by: i like wimmins

[sleome741]

Isn't that how everyone reacts?

[str8ballin]

The way I see it is crack wouldnt be all that addictive if it wasnt for the taste.People I know say they smoke it not because of the buzz(which only lasts like 5-10 min),but because the taste is so good.

If I were you I would stick to just doing lines cuz that crack will fuck your life up.Believe me I have seen it happen.

[motorhead]

Yeah crack can fuk u up in a bad way in a really short amount of time. ITs like Rick James once said 'Smoking the crack pipe is like sucking the devils dick'

[scrappy]

Smoking crack is dumb. You get high for 2 seconds, then you let out the hit and start going downhill from there. I don't care what anyone says, I've tried and abused really good crack but the high is way overrated.

[whatsinaname]

Originally Posted by scrappy

Smoking crack is dumb. You get high for 2 seconds, then you let out the hit and start going downhill from there. I don't care what anyone says, I've tried and abused really good crack but the high is way overrated.

Hey cool, now none of us have to think or try it out on our own!!

We need more people like you to keep this forum filled with informative and usefull posts.

[whatsinaname]

Originally Posted by whatsinaname

Hey cool, now none of us have to think or try it out on our own!!

We need more people like you to keep this forum filled with informative and usefull posts.

Alright, I'll reply to my own post before you do and we have ourselves a good old fashioned flame-out...
I meant no disrespect (well....you know what I mean), and realize that you were stating an opinion. SWIM apologizes in advance, as while typing out the previous post, he was finishing off the last of his snap-crackle-pop, and therefore was just a little bit agitated at the time.
Not that your opinion is wrong either...I DO agree with you, but I like it (crack, that is)...and my first read-over of your post came off to me as a bit condescending.Edited by: whatsinaname

[scrappy]

i don't sweat the small stuff...flaming is a waste of time. i just post my opinions and if people don't like them it doesn't bug me

[badger2565]

I'll have to agree,swim thinks the taste is what he craves.


The high is not that great and the cost outrageous,but never the less,Swim always findhimself smokin up.


Guess that's why it's so bad.

[Kymistry]

I often wonder why people smoke crack when they can just do a line or two and get the exact same feeling . SWIK's personal opinion is that "CRACK is Wack". SWIK knows a bunch of people that snort coke and they all can maintain a job and otherwise lifestyle. People that smoke crack behave differently and are much more irratic. They stand it front of corner stores and beg for spare change. They are more prone to stealing and trying to sell people things. Why does crack do this? This is only my personal opinion and you may know someone different. So please don't be offended. But I have never seen anybody control a crack habit. The habit often controls them. So if you have an opinion on this subject please reply. Let the posting begin.

Do the drug,don't let it do you!-KYMISTRY

[zera]

Swim has used crack occasionally. Swim attends a prestigious university, where he studies computer science and has an excellent GPA. He is also successfully employed as a quant at a major Wall Street firm. Several of swims middle class friends have also used crack (most of them largely after being persuaded by swim that it wasnt the devil), and none have a problem, and all have been satisfied with a few uses. In fact most, including swim himself, prefer snorted coke because of the easier come down and the fact it lasts longer. Swim could see himself becoming a powder addict, snorting in bathrooms discretely every 30 minutes, much easier than a crack addict, smoking every 10 minutes.

As Ive tried to argue on the forums several time before, the correlation between crack use and negative behaviour doesnt imply causation. A non heavy user is going to be much more likely to use powder than crack. Similarly very people start off with cocaine by smoking it, most everyone starts out snorting. Cocaine takes a long time to truly alter brain structure to produce addiction, so by the time people have been in the coke culture long enough to get over the stigma of crack cocaine most likely they are already heavy, frequent users at that point, and hence more likely than powder users to exhibit the negative signs of cocaine use.

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[someone111]

swim tryed crack b4 swim ever tryed coke and swim never found crack to be addictive but yet he is addicted to coke, could this be because he loves the process of snorting so much or because it last longer, does any1 else also like coke more than crack?

[Blackhoody]

swim would say lasting longer. Crack is very fun but so annoying as its only lasts around 5 minutes. Sniffing stuff is fun swim love the process as well. So swim would have to say swim loves coke more than crack. Crack is just so dirty when i think about it.


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[dbjay417]

SWIM believes cocaines power as a narcotic stems from two major points.

The first is that its time tested. True many things can go wrong using cocaine, but still cocaine was once legal and used in medicinal products, and even after it was illegalized, millions of American cocaine users survived the 70's and 80's relativly unharmed and continue to lead decent lives to this day. To SWIM this says, coke can be bad in the wrong hands, but is not necessarily bad itself, like guns or even cars.

Secondly cocaine has tremendous social appeal. First, there is the matter of the high which supplies energy and strips away inhabition. But there is a whole other social angle to cocaine that has nothing to do with using it. Simply posessing cocaine makes a person the center of attention. People who are also doing coke see you as a "comrade". People who you share your coke with are your best friends (until you run out). People who want to do coke will kiss your ass, and people who don't do coke will shy away from you like your some kinda bad ass. Hell swim has laid with girls that were way out of his league due to simply posessing cocaine. Under the influence, you dont even care if they only want you for your coke. You just take what you want and either you share the wealth or you send them packin.

Crack on the other hand has no glamour. Most people even a lot of coke users buy into the "crackhead" stereotype. The meer mention of crack conjurs images of toothless low lives stealing from their mothers and deformed drug addicted newborns. Some people know better than to buy into the stereotype, but the greater majority truely believe it. SWIM works with casual crack users, they show up every day and put in their 8 hours without much fuss, and as far as swim is concerned whatever they do with their legally earned money is their own business so long as it doesn't effect their job preformance. Unfortunately most people have no such experience, or they do and they dont know it because crack use tends to be the sort of thing people hide.

SWIMs never smoked crack before but SWIM really does believe that the drastic social differences weigh heavily on the subconsious mind and can alter your perception of your experiences.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Crack is a dirty and worthless drug in swims eyes.A few second,jittery high?Atleast coke is somewhat pleasureable.Swim has seen too many crackheads and some of them are just,well fucked up.

[Swimster]

SWIM believes cocaines power as a narcotic stems from two major points.

sorry, but cocaine is not a narcotic.

Anyway: crack is dominating to cocaine anyday, ALTHOUGH...cocaine lasts alot longer in duration. As far as moderation, and health-wise, and good habit goes, cocaine is ALOT more forgiving than crack. Although your septum can get pretty damaged with cocaine(p).

[dbjay417]

bad wording on SWIMs part, thanks for bringing that to SWIMs attention.

[Swimster]

lol- has swim been reading articles by the DEA.
As they seem to think almost everything is a narcotic.
j/k
anyway, o-well.

[Nacumen]

Cocaine is really no more a narcotic than marijuana.

[dbjay417]

legal (non medical) terminology is the angle SWIM was working when refering to coke as a narcotic, but thats neither here nor there.

To redirect the thread to its original purpose.

Crack has a horrid public image that i believe is rightfully earned.

Cocaine is much more docile, and is still revered as Americas Party drug.

[Nacumen]

Originally Posted by dbjay417

Cocaine is much more docile, and is still revered as Americas Party drug.

Hmm I think that's quite the claim. Many others (including myself) would think otherwise.

[Mr.E.Charlie]

Cocaine has quite a social appeal to it . It is a big jump from sniffing cocaine powder in a nightclub toilet with a group of friends to smoking crack alone in a run-down appartement . Stereotypes play a big part as Coke users are stereotyped as rich , glamorous socialites , while Crack users are stereotyped as jobless , hideous , thieving lowlives . Im not saying these stereotypes are right , but i do agree . Coke is gamourised , especially when you consider the highest ( no pun intended ) of socialites and celebrities such as Lindsay Lohan , Britney Spears , Kate Moss use cocaine , while Pete Doherty , Whitney Houston use Crack . Who can blame those who stereotype Coke and Crack ? I dont think Crack is dominating at all , Coke will always be glamourised and Crack will always be put down and frowned upon .

[dbjay417]

everyone prefer a different poison for different reasons, but SWIMs experience definately tells him that, crack users hide in the bathroom, and cocaine users have free run of the second largest suitable surface available, usually a kitchen table or coffee table (the first largest being used for beer pong).

Even in environments with small groups of friends with different habits, SWIM has noticed that a lot of crack smokers don't like people seeing them smoke crack. You can smell it burn, and hear it crackle, but God forbid you should see them smoking. Coke and pot are the only two drugs SWIM seen used openly, with the rare occasion of insufflatable heroine or pills.

[someone111]

but the thing is swim is addicted to coke but doesnt find crack to be addictive.... is that strange?

[dbjay417]

SWIM believes that to be unusual, however SWIM must say that it took SWIM some months to develop a cocaine addiction, as swim tends not to become easily addicted to anything, not cigarettes, or opiates, or pot or even scratch tickets.

SWIM finds that addiction forms with time, frequency, and quality of high and also the quality of the over all experience you have under the influence.