Journal - Help me escape from Heroin addiction

[oggy]

Why was Orchid_Suspiria banned?

[oggy]

Swim is running out of veins to inject into, he could smoke it but smoking it doesn't do anything for swim and he finds it a waste.

On a more positive note swim has got an appointment with the methadone clinic on the 21st this month. Tho it does say "Please note that no prescription will be given at this appointment" But at least its a start.

Swim will just have to go made with the gear till then

[kailey_elise]

Originally Posted by HeLpMeEsCaPe

...swim is running out of veins to inject into...

SWiY *IS* using new needles, right?

Those I Know have trouble registering if the needle has been used a few times; load the gear into a fresh pin and there's no trouble registering, even in the same spot that couldn't be hit w/the gently used needle. Generally, any more than 3 times and trouble starts; thankfully there are needle exchanges near by, as well as syringes being available over the counter for very little money; as low as $2.50 for a package of ten in some pharmacies.

Tell SWiY to be very careful if injecting into the foot; TIK say be sure to wash up well with soap & water before and after - socks & shoes can harbor lots and lots of nasties!


~Kailey

[Lisa J]

SWIM has spent the last couple of days getting totally trashed, after 10 years of abstinence her veins are quite plentiful again but some are decidedly unhappy at the moment. SWIM always Hibbi Scrubs first but has been using her feet so shoes may have introduced bacteria, luckily SWIM has a plentiful supply of antibiotics so she should be ok. SWIM hates using feet and legs but it's the only way to hide what she's doing from most of the people around her. SWIM is going to put on one of her stronger patches tonight, they usually take about 12 hours to kick in fully so she may get to use one more 10 bag first thing in the morning. Two friends are coming round to keep an eye on SWIM, just in case she has to take the methadone as well. SWIM has done so much gear this weekend she finds she's not worried about tomorrow at all, once her head clears she will shit her self and she knows that, but for now she's finding her biggest problem is trying to type with only one finger working and eyes that wont stay open. SWIM hopes HeLpMeEsCaPe gets some help the clinic and that they're not too stingy with the methadone. One question for the "brains" out there, SWIMS GP did consider stopping all her meds and replacing them just with methadone, if he did this roughly how much methadone could SWIM expect to get, he would be replacing a fentanyl 100 patch and 240mg codeine phosphate daily.

[oggy]

You would get enough to stop you withdrawing and to take the pain away, swims guess would be anything from 60mg-100mg

[oggy]

Swim also can't find any veins on his legs, he can see them on his feet but couldn't get the blood to draw back.

[Lisa J]

Originally Posted by HeLpMeEsCaPe

Swim also can't find any veins on his legs, he can see them on his feet but couldn't get the blood to draw back.

Put your feet in a bowl of hot water for 5 - 10 minutes first, this can get things moving quite well. SWIM finds feet bruise more and are more prone to infection but other than that she likes them as they are easily available and easily hidden.
SWIM'S megga fentanyl patch is kicking in and she honestly thinks that even the tiniest hit of gear would tip her over the edge right now, a swig of methadone yesterday evening probably isn't helping matters.
Just to make matters worse SWIM'S ex wants them to get back together, SWIM doesn't need this shit!

[oggy]

Yes swim uses a new needle every time.

[beentheredonethatagain]

If tracks and veins are a problem and stopping isnt in the cards then you know a booty bump is something to think about.

[oggy]

Whats a booty bump?

[English_T]

I think he means 'anal insertion' as a physician would put it...it's meant to be almost as good as injection. A lot of drugs can be introduced this way as 'suppositries'.

How long has swim been injecting? and does swim change sites each time or just go for 'old reliable'?? If right from the get-go people use a fresh site and rotate their sites leaving time for each injection site to heal properly, then they could go for years and years without losing veins. However, many don't and lose them quick, some quicker than others (one guy lost his in a year!). Using Vitamin C (100% PURE POWDER) rather than CITRIC ACID to disolve the gear may well be an excellent move ( I noticed that problems came quicker after citric use than those who used vit c) - vitamin c promotes healing and also helps your immune system and I personally think it is less harsh on the veins. Plus, I experienced more 'citric burns' than c burns.

In the end most long term H users experience problems with finding a vein and the drug clinics produce booklets which give tips and advice about helping to find a vein. Hot water and other little bits. SOme county's have 'shooting galleries' - which are rooms where one can have a 'dig' in private and safety (in reality, nobody wants to do it in front of the public, use store toilets, go into bushes, in a car etc) and are staffed with nurses who give health advice, advice on injecting/finding sites, provide clean sterile needles and swabs (For BEFORE not after) and will even inject for you. These are an exellent idea and hopefully will be available country-wide and available at local Health centres/Dr surgeries sooner rather than later.

I was able to use without problems for years and years BUT I think citric and lack of regular rotation led to my veins 'disappearing/hiding'. I have used EVERYWHERE and I mean everywhere - being a junkie will push you to new lows that you once would have never in a lifetime, considered. I used my feet - Hurts and veins tend to 'blow-up', sometimes you get in but its so painful that you have to inject over 5 mins or so, or sometimes they just don't seem to give blood. LEGS - again painful and tend to bruise due to the higher blood pressure. FINGERS - tiny or small veins which need a very steady hand. HAND - is pretty good. NECK - NOT at all recomended, dificult to do on ones own, usually needs two and is really frowned upon as it is meant to be DANGEROUS. GROIN - The FEMORAL vein - Usually the last bastion for many a junkie but is close to the femoral artery and femoral nerve - EXTREMELY close hitting the femoral artery can cause SERIOUS problems! hitting the femoral nerve can leave one seriously fucked up - it works and works well and is also well hidden, it saved me for a couple of years but really is a LAST resort. Again, clinics have booklets on this form of injecting but it is not to be used without serious consideration - READ up on it before ever attempting it!

The internet has some good sites which may also have some info on how to find veins - (the back of the forearm is a very good place!)

Point is, if swiy's losing veins, it really is time to stop because hunting for a vein when sick and the body's cold is a nightmare (I regularly spent up to 5 hours trying to find places and having to 'recook' gunge) - it's all downhill from here - swiys body has had enough.

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I like the way your trying to guide these newbies in the right direction

[CHEMDUDE]

swim gave up heroin after he met a guy who could only get a vein in his groin.also one of his friends is blind in one eye after shooting h into his eye ball,someone told him it was a quicker way to get high,even faster then the vein inbetween the first and second finger on the left or right hand.
as to wot swiEnglish_T mentioned,one of my friends used to carry a fresh lemmon to use instead of citric.swim is also under the impression that the vit c in the lemmon made the hole heal quicker,but do make the effort to get a fresh,organic and unwaxed lemon.afterall,we are talking about your life,so whats a few pence/cents more.
IN MY HONEST OPINION **If swiLisa j get's back together with said person,it's just a short ride back to becoming what you don't want to be** HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOURSELF AND DON'T DO IT**.Do swiLisa j have some ware to dissapear for a while? get yourself out of that mine field you will inevitably find oneself in..I shall light a candle to help swiYou find that inner strengh your going to need..my heart goes out to you...peace`n`love to swiYou lisa j....c_d

[English_T]

Originally Posted by CHEMDUDE

one of my friends used to carry a fresh lemmon to use instead of citric.swim is also under the impression that the vit c in the lemmon made the hole heal quicker,but do make the effort to get a fresh,organic and unwaxed lemon.

I think this is popular in France too - Lemons contain citric and vitamin C. I only used this when citric/vit c was unavailable as I'd heard it could cause eye infections etc. I used either fresh lemon or the plastic squeezy one - actually, here is a report about the problems it can cause (info from exchange-supplies (and some needle-exchanges) etc is really up to date and is an excellent source to find ANY info one may need about anything to do with pharmies - particularly H. This link is to exchange supplies and is EXCELLENT)
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/need...mon_juice.html

It just goes to show, if the resources aren't made available to users - health problems quickly get out of control. Thankfully, over the past few years governments view on drugs has changed and things are moving in the right direction.

[oggy]

Swim has taken swiy's advice and is using pure vit c powder (swim had it there all this time)

Swim has good veins that stick out well on the back of his hand and forearm but he can't seem to get a drawback of blood so he didn't inject so had to go for the old reliable which seems to work every time. The vein on the inside of the elbow but its starting to get blocked up and its making a mess.

Swim has only been injecting for 4-5 months but has been using for well over a year now, swim can't wait till he gets his methadone prescription.

Thanks English T for you advice. Swim will continue to use vit c from now on.

[oggy]

Swim used lemon juice the plastic squeezy one for a full bottle then went on to citric acid and now uses pure vit c only

[beentheredonethatagain]

I don't and havent even done gear (heroin) I am curious about the citrus and vit c , what do swiy use it for?

[English_T]

H in the UK/Europe is Brown and in its freebase form, (great for smoking/chasing) and as such is NOT water-soluble - by adding an acid people are making it a water-soluble.

In the USA, the H is generally white and in the Hydrochloride form and as such IS water soluble as it is already a water-soluble salt.

[beentheredonethatagain]

oh thanx i get it now. I know a crack head who uses citrus to fire up crack , he cant score powder coke so he takes his crack and mixes it with lemon juice and swack, he is a dumb ass, if you ask me

[English_T]

Lemon juice really shouldn't be used if at all possible, I never experienced problems with it but it seems it can be quite 'unhealthy' -
(This is the same LINK as before BUT it is important)
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/need...mon_juice.html

Exchange Supplies is great and supply a lot of the needle exchanges with their bits and pieces, apparently, (the citric sachets and steri-cups are the same as what r available for free in the Oxford area) They also have now started supplying VIT C sachets to needle-exchanges.

They have info on their site about most things (including how to find veins/safer injecting, methadone, clinics in fact EVERYTHING one may want to know - the menus drop down from subject area selected....

http://www.exchangesupplies.org/index.html

[Lisa J]

SWIM has fucked up big time in the last few days and just hopes she can get a clear head again and think about quitting, she really hopes she will post again with a more positive picture.

[oggy]

Originally Posted by Lisa J

SWIM has fucked up big time in the last few days and just hopes she can get a clear head again and think about quitting, she really hopes she will post again with a more positive picture.

Lisa J, Swim doesn't want to be rude but you've kinda hijacked swim's thread.

Swim does find your posts interesting but SwiLisa J you should have really started your own thread.

All the best.

[English_T]

How are things going with the 'C'?
I always liked the fact that everytime I'd have a hit, I was getting something healthy along with it. Also, when it is IV'd a small amount of 'c' must be equivalent to quite a large dose taken orally....
(NB: For anyone considering changing from CITRIC to Vit C - only 100% Vitamin C powder should be used. It is available at most pharmacies as LINUS Vitamin C Powder 60g for about £2.50. If they haven't got it, they will order it for you.)


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4238250.stm

[oggy]

This is the video, swim can't edit yet, sorry for too many posts

http://www.exchangesupplies.org/drug...eo_online.html

[oggy]

Swim got his vit C from Holland & Barrett. Things are feeling better with the vit c and swim only puts just enough in to dissolve the heroin so its not an acidic mixture which is also bad for you.

Watch this video swim found it helped him find a better way to mix his vit c. They are using citric acid in the video http://www.exchangesupplies.org/drug...d/video_online

[English_T]

That was very interesting! Didn't know that overacidifying could result in the 'breaking down' of gear into some other 'intermediate' and then into morphine...
In the past, we used £20 Gear/£20 crack + 2 sachets of Citric making 2 hits.

That site is an excellent resource - NO bullshit, no propaganda - just neutral, honest, helpful caring advice. It is excellent to see how things have changed in the UK and that the direction now is heading in the right way...