MDMA Ups & Downs

[Londonboy]

SWIM finds that they have great moments when they are UP and then about 2 seconds later feelings of sadness and reflection

SWIM was wondering, do any other SWIM feel this? Or do you counter it?

[Swimster]

if swiy means while up, he feels sadness with MDXX substances, it is interesting, as these substances play with the natural neurotransmitter serotonin(theorised happiness with big amounts).

perhaps it could be swiys emotional side getting to him.

Besides this, perhaps it's the comedown swiy is reffering too, if so, it is always harsh without supplements to help ease it.

[Mr.E.Charlie]

Serotonin is the main reason for ups and downs of ecstasy .

Ecstasy releases lots of serotonin into the body , and then your body will run out of serotonin , and you will start to feel low . Chocolate releases "happy chemicals" into the body , so maybe swiy should munch on some Cadburys or Nestle while pilling LOL

[podge]

Originally Posted by Mr.E.Charlie

Chocolate releases "happy chemicals" into the body , so maybe swiy should munch on some Cadburys or Nestle while pilling LOL

MDMA release's enough "happy chemical's" for swim.....dont think chocolate would make any difference.lol.

Some people feel sad because they are putting unknown chemical's into their bodies?.....cant really agree with that. Most people have no idea of the danger of putting untested pill's into their body in the first place....that's why they do it. Lot's of pill popper's dont even know what MDMA is, they think pill's are "ecstacy" and as far as their concerned that's all that matter's.

Taking MDMA create's a build up of seratonin in the brain which give's the euphoric effect's. After the high is over seratonin level's are depleted... which make's it hard to feel happy. Being burned out or drained after MDMA is all part of the experience and come's with the territory of MDMA use.

5-HTP ( 5-Hydroxytryptophan ) can be used as a supplement to replenish diminished seratonin level's and aid the comedown from MDMA.

Also the frequent use of MDMA lead's to higher level's of adverse effect's during and after usage. Usage should be spaced out as long as possible to keep the experience enjoyable.

Over use of MDMA will lead most users to becoming bored of the drug. Swim took MDMA for the first time in month's last weekend and he still found the experience to be lacking despite the large gap he left between use's. Once the novelty has worn off.....it's impossible to recapture it seem's.

Guess MDMA just aint swim's thing anymore. I hope swiy use's MDMA responsibly....for swiy's own good. Swim remember's how great the first few time's were and wish's he had'nt ruined it for himself.

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Good sound advice

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by podge

Taking MDMA create's a build up of seratonin in the brain which give's the euphoric effect's. After the high is over seratonin level's are depleted... which make's it hard to feel happy. Being burned out or drained after MDMA is all part of the experience and come's with the territory of MDMA use.

5-HTP ( 5-Hydroxytryptophan ) can be used as a supplement to replenish diminished seratonin level's and aid the comedown from MDMA.

Also the frequent use of MDMA lead's to higher level's of adverse effect's during and after usage. Usage should be spaced out as long as possible to keep the experience enjoyable.

Over use of MDMA will lead most users to becoming bored of the drug. Swim took MDMA for the first time in month's last weekend and he still found the experience to be lacking despite the large gap he left between use's. Once the novelty has worn off.....it's impossible to recapture it seem's.

Guess MDMA just aint swim's thing anymore. I hope swiy use's MDMA responsibly....for swiy's own good. Swim remember's how great the first few time's were and wish's he had'nt ruined it for himself.

Too true, great advice. And if you ever find away to bring back the magic, make sure you tell the rest of the SWIMS around the world. You'll be a hero.

[Blackhoody]

Was SWIY depressed at all before taking the e? I find that SWIM emotions just stick out more. As in if SWIM is thinking about anything sad he will take the rolls then fell happy. Then SWIM thinks bad thoughts then he just breaks out crying. Its one hell of a drug non the less.

[Mr.E.Charlie]

Yeah , true . Ecstasy will make any emotions and feelings before effects onset much stronger .

[VitaminK22]

The come up before takin the E will make some people feel sad, this is because they dont like the fact that they're puttin unkown chemicals into their body.

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by VitaminK22

The come up before takin the E will make some people feel sad, this is because they dont like the fact that they're puttin unkown chemicals into their body.

Swim sometimes used to become very nervous. The gut rot makes him ask himself why he did it
... then the waves hit you and it starts feeling nice and all the worries in the world are gone.


But yeah, to sum up the rest of the thread, leave some time in between.

[merseyloyalist]

Swim finds the anxiety kicks in the day after

[chasingthedragon]

Originally Posted by merseyloyalist

Swim finds the anxiety kicks in the day after

true,e dose very littel to swim nowadays exept keep swim awake,is it true it will not work on swim because swim is prescribed efexor?

[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by chasingthedragon

true,e dose very littel to swim nowadays exept keep swim awake,is it true it will not work on swim because swim is prescribed efexor?

Yes, Effexor can block the brain-chemistry needed to unlock the magic of MDMA.

Regards stopping the comedown from MDMA, and other entactogenics, would require using them with a stated purpose. And that's not dancing all night and falling in love with everyone in sight. It requires figuring out just what this chemical is allowing you to see and understand. And then finding a way to live your life in such a way that encourages this. Forget the euphoria and hyperspace mind-set. Those are side-effects. There is something else happening that you need to figure out yourself. You can. I could tell you. But you have to learn this on your own.

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incredibly deep and so very true

[TMM]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Regards stopping the comedown from MDMA, and other entactogenics, would require using them with a stated purpose. And that's not dancing all night and falling in love with everyone in sight. It requires figuring out just what this chemical is allowing you to see and understand. And then finding a way to live your life in such a way that encourages this. Forget the euphoria and hyperspace mind-set. Those are side-effects. There is something else happening that you need to figure out yourself. You can. I could tell you. But you have to learn this on your own.

Sage advice.

The first time SWIM took MDMA, he was at home on his own. He spent hours on the phone telling his new revelations about life to his friend who was too stoned to understand. He failed to write any of it down. Unlike the usual roll, the intense thought became too much for SWIM and he welcomed the comedown, falling into sleep with open arms. By the morning his revelations were gone.

That is a realm SWIM wishes to return to someday.

[Londonboy]

SWIM had some more MDMA the other week and can honestly say that it was the best feeling ever.

He said it was amazing....much better then other drugs.

[Nagognog2]

Hint: The revelations are also a side-effect. You need to find why the channel opened. Was something gained from the head state? Or was something missing instead? Come on. You're getting closer.

[TMM]

SWIM gave little further thought to his 'revelations' the day after the event. He thought that as they were so fleeting, they can't have been too substantial. Unfortunately SWIM's recollection of the experience as a whole is poor. He will need to explore this further at some point, and really listen to what his mind is trying to tell him.

[chasingthedragon]

well other than ceeping swim awake swim uselly just sits there thinking depresing thorts (cannot help it)

[chunky funky basslines]

Originally Posted by chasingthedragon

well other than ceeping swim awake swim uselly just sits there thinking depresing thorts (cannot help it)

the first time swim took mdma swim sat talking to his close friends older brother discussing a few 'nasty' topics from swims past.

if swiy is getting depressed when he is on mdma, then maybe you are harbouring emotional tension of some kind, if swiy thinks about what depressing thoughts you are having specifically whilst on mdma then it seems a lot is to be gained.

mdma use has changed swim forever in the most positive way just because it enabled swim to know what was bothering him about his past unpleasant experiences which he didn't even think he remebered before, in this way mdma was very therapeutic for swim.

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Hint: The revelations are also a side-effect. You need to find why the channel opened. Was something gained from the head state? Or was something missing instead? Come on. You're getting closer.

something was missed

SWIF thinks it's fear and anxeity

While on MDMA SWIF never feels any anxeity or fear of any social situation or anything to be honest. And that in itself teaches SWIF a lesson. However the lesson isnt all knowing, as fear and anxeity are still key emotions and life relys on them functioning.

[The Doors]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

something was missed

SWIF thinks it's fear and anxeity

While on MDMA SWIF never feels any anxeity or fear of any social situation or anything to be honest. And that in itself teaches SWIF a lesson. However the lesson isnt all knowing, as fear and anxeity are still key emotions and life relys on them functioning.

MDMA allows you to have a direct conscious interaction with your inner being without the clouding thoughts that the ego provides. Which is why you feel like pure love towards not only yourself, but also with others.

[chasingthedragon]

Originally Posted by The Doors

MDMA allows you to have a direct conscious interaction with your inner being without the clouding thoughts that the ego provides. Which is why you feel like pure love towards not only yourself, but also with others.

ill have to disagree with you on that, atlesst with me

[coke]

SWIM had a pop last night only one pill and no alcohol and found a normal pattern re-emerge that had disapeared for a few goes. He found himself becoming discontent with whereever he was, no matter where he went he felt as though he would have more fun or feel better somewhere else, has anyone heard stories from SWIY relate to that?
SWIM told me it seemed if he had a few drinks it got rid of some of the euphoria however it also dimmed some of those discontent feelings perhaps he should look into that?

[chunky funky basslines]

Originally Posted by coke

SWIM had a pop last night only one pill and no alcohol and found a normal pattern re-emerge that had disapeared for a few goes. He found himself becoming discontent with whereever he was, no matter where he went he felt as though he would have more fun or feel better somewhere else, has anyone heard stories from SWIY relate to that?
SWIM told me it seemed if he had a few drinks it got rid of some of the euphoria however it also dimmed some of those discontent feelings perhaps he should look into that?

swim often feels like he can never be doing the right thing when on mdma, always ends up wandering around, the only place swim does not feel like that is at a rave, cos dancing on mdma is pure bliss.

[chasingthedragon]

Originally Posted by chunky funky basslines

swim often feels like he can never be doing the right thing when on mdma, always ends up wandering around, the only place swim does not feel like that is at a rave, cos dancing on mdma is pure bliss.

this is exactlly what swim feels and is over it wich is a shame because swim loved mdma and the only drug swim enjoys now is amphetamine and is eger to try meth but have herd so much bad steriotypes (anything to get my mind of my mothers death)

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by chunky funky basslines

swim often feels like he can never be doing the right thing when on mdma, always ends up wandering around, the only place swim does not feel like that is at a rave, cos dancing on mdma is pure bliss.

SWIF sometimes feels like this when he doesnt have any real goal, like dancing or cuddling. He can cuddle and be alright I think it's because users who have done MDMA a couple of times feel like they should be feeling more intense. This is where one must try his or her best to stop searching and looking for the euphoria and just feel the experience for what it is. EVery experience is new and amazing it it's own right, to try and make it something else is already taking away from it and therefore negating it as something not as good.

It can be difficult no qualms about that.

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next time swim takes mdma, he'll be thinking about this comment :)