Diphenhydramine-like hallucinations on Ecstasy?

[Geeza]

Once swim gave me this report which he wrote in his own words about a crazy night he once had after a pill party:

I went to a party round a mate's (we'll call him G - don't think it really matters though) house. I snorted a pill at around 8.30 ish - G was late in picking up the 70 pills that everyone had ordered. Now I would usually take two but I was being picked up about 10 ish and had to face my parents.

However, as a side note, this was in vain as my mate S had triple-dropped (he intended to take two but found an unattended pill and thought "fuck it" - this was despite my advice to do only one) and smoked about an 8th of green. He ended up with serious cash-register jaw and spent most of the car journey with his eyes rolled back slurring to me about how I was "his bro".

Anyway after I got home, I told my mum I was gunna go to bed as I was a bit drunk and saying that S was drunk (she still told his dad he looked like he was on something). Anyway since my buzz was mediocre and I was feeling a little annoyed at S for getting so extremely messed up in front of my mum I took one of the pills in my wallet. I came up fully and was buzzing nicely while surfing the net and chatting on msn (which can be embarrasing). Anyway after my mum went to bed I started to come down which prompted me to redose (yes - I know it doesn't work and I knew it then but I felt desperate).

In total, throughout the rest of the night, I took 4 more pills.

I got that messed-up, confused feeling you get when you take pills that will not work because your brain is drained of all serotonin. I got double vision and became forgetful. I would post a comment on the internet, one that was completely logical and rational but then find myself staring at the floor and that the comment was half-written.

The first hallucination occurred when I got out of bed in the dark to check my pupils in the mirror to see if I was still up. All of sudden I said (or at least said in my head - I hope!) "hey chris!" but he didn't say anything and I walked closer to him but he just had a open-mouthed expression on his face and I said "what?!" and he dissapeared. I felt confused to why he had vanished and then felt even more confused as I realized he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

However, most of my hallucinations occurred in the bathroom (all in the dark) as trying to pee was difficult and took a long time (because this is E don't forget). Thus giving me time to zone out. I was in my bedroom with friends from the party as if the same party was now at my house; two girls making out on my bed (it was a good party ) and random people standing around. Then I realized I was in the bathroom and I first thought "oh dear, I'm upside-down" but then I realized I was staring down as I was trying to pee.

Then similar things happened thoughout the night that involved talking to people who weren't there and them dissapearing and me just getting really confused. But I shan't bore you with any more details.

I have read diphenhydramine trip reports and I can relate to them with this experience although without the funny colours and patterns and imaginary insects.

As any PWAY had similar experiences? Swim would like to know he is not alone.

[Nagognog2]

An overdose of MDMA (and other of the 'M' series) can cause some strange symptoms - including visual hallucinations. It can also cause displaced time/space references ; You roll up the window in the car and see yourself rolling up the window of the car. Then realize you haven't yet rolled up the window of the car. Rather life an attack of Deja-Vu. Mental confusion can become prominent. Anxiety attacks quite common.

This is why it is suggested you know what you are taking and what dosage. Bongo had his house invaded by Mr. Pusher during a casual gathering. MP handed out unweighed samples from a teaspoon before Bongo caught up with him and physically threw him out the door. Bongo had to spend the rest of the night talking people down.

[Geeza]

Hmm... that sounds like it but swim says there definately wasn't any anxiety or panic and wouldn't regard this experience as negative except for the fact that he had the mother of all comedowns and had wasted 3 good pills. But maybe there was some residual effects left over from the pills that had worked (ie the ones he took before he came down) that kept the anxiety at bay?

He also says that this type of experience happened before when he took two pills, then came down and took one more pill. It always happens when he tries to bring himself up by redosing and it doesn't work.

[jux]

the same types of things used to happened a few times to MIF back when he used to be a heavy user of x (strangely, he never regarded it as a negative experiance either)...but yeah, he got real hallucinations, thought he was places he wasn't, etc...

he always thought the pills had something else in them (he thought it was mescaline in the pills at time, though he now knows that would be impossible) actually this is what sparked MIF's interest in RC's...sort of a quest to find out what was in his pills so many years ago...now he finds out that most were likely due to an overdose of x.... go figure

[unconditionaldl]

SWIM used to abuse x alot back in the day ever tried to have a conversation with a friend when the both of you are in 'forget mode' lol. And yeah swim got the dejavu thing all the time, swim seen himself just about to open the toliet door to go back into his room when his friend chapped on the door.

[podge]

Yes swim has talked to people who werent there in place's where he wasnt before. They were not negative effects at the time becuse swim was rolling .... but looking back they could have been potentially dangerous. Swim prefer's smaller dose's where he know's whats going on.

[Probing Tranquility]

SWIM and a few friends were partying one night and between 5 people they consumed 20 rolls. SWIM had eaten 2 and snorted 3 throughout the night. He was had a glass that looked like it was constantly overflowing and from across the room his friend who has short hair, no facial hair, and doesn't wear glasses looked like he had a big black cowboy hat,glasses, and a full beard. The same hallucinations were shared by SWIM and SWIM's gf. SWIM thought the hallucinations were just him and didn't talk about them until his gf asked if it looked like SWIM's friend had a hat, glasses, and a beard. Could these hallucinations be from other chemicals in the pills or could they have been caused by an overdose?

[Dogears]

I have heard of a couple people having bizzar datura like trips on high dosses of MDMA type drugs.

[Geeza]

Thanks for your replies guys, swim appreciates them.

[unconditionaldl]

Not negative effects at all good effects lol. if swim focused on a ligh that gave off those blur things and focused on them they would expand and turn into things like flying saucers or just weird shapes and fall to floor etc. Then when you look away it stops. One time swim was outside and looked at a lampost and the blur formed into a giant apple mac sign that turned then dissapeared. This is commmon from swims friends abusing e aswell.