anxiety attack.. (what swim does)

[EatTheApple41]

swim is in the midst of a near full blown anxiety attack at the moment. he has pushed the adderall a little too far over the past few days - though making sure to get decent sleep, and forcing himself to eat - he obviously went too far tonight.

swim is writing this to help others who may experience the same thing. swim has gone through this once before, so he knows what its like - recognizes the symptoms as to what they really are, and although he feels like hes physically paniced - swim is keeping his mind very calm.

swim is experiencing: chest pain right above the heart when taking a deep breath, shortness of breath, slight paranoia, irregular (rapid to slow to normal back to rapid) heartbeat, sweaty palms, difficulty swallowing (as if his throat is swollen)

first swim will cover the chest pain. with all of the swirl around the internet about canada's ban on adderall due to reports of cardiac arrest, heart attack, and stroke - it can easily become ones fear that the pain in swims chest is that from a heart attack. if you at any point believe you may be having a heart attack, or any kind of cardiovascular problem - seek help now. however since swim knows he is not having a heart attack, stroke, or is about to go into cardiac arrest, hes learned that massaging the chest above the heart helps to temporarily (for 3-4 minutes) relieve the pain of breathing deep.

the shortness of breath, anxiety/fear, sweaty palms, and difficulty swallowing that swim is experiencing at the moment are all signs of his mild "anxiety attack". swim wouldnt consider it a TRUE anxiety attack, as its not caused by anxiety disorder.. rather - the reaction of swims body to the overdose of adderall has caused the physical symptoms to appear, and the fear of heart attack/stroke/cardiac arrest from his physical symptoms has sent him to feel paranoid in the back of his mind. theres not much swim can do to relieve the other physical symptoms.... welcome to overdose swim.

however, the paranoia is what bothers swim the most. again, swim will say he is not telling anyone to avoid seeking medical attention - swim is basing his thoughts/opinions solely on his experience and research. but swim understands that he is not the first to experience this - he has accepted the fact that until the medication wears off he will continue to experience these feelings - and thats what swim deserves for being retarded.

swim is making sure to do all of the following:

1. keep his mind occupied, and away from his paranoia. (by typing this)
2. monitor his heart rate at least once an hour - keeping in mind that the normal heart rate is 60-100 beats per minute. (as long as swim is in this range, he feels confident that he is not experiencing anything except anxiety attack)
3. keep himself convinced that tomorrow will come - he will not die, he has nothing to fear except letting fear take control. swim reminds himself constantly that he is alright, hes just overdosed slightly on his pharmies and tommorow he'll be fine. swim is keeping a positive attitude.
4. when tommorow comes, swim will put away the rest of his adderall and take a few days break to give his body time to rest. if he feels any withdrawl symptoms (which are unlikely for swim) he will take a very small dose of benzo's to keep his agitation and frustration at bay.
5. swim is a smoker, swim is NOT chain smoking. however, swim is smoking normally - as the inhale/exhale routine of smoking is helping to keep his breathing at a fairly steady pace. swim knows that if he was having a heart attack, or stroke he would be a fool to smoke. but swim is just having an anxiety attack. silly swim.
6. swim is playing solitaire and listening to (but not watching - because when he watches, he thinks too much) Tommy Boy. something funny and relaxing - that will help distract his thoughts from his worries.
7. swim is NOT going to take any downer pharms to make himself fall asleep. swim although is retarded enough to overdose, is not retarded enough to mix ups and downs in the middle of an overdose.
8. swim has taken a small dose of bayer aspirin, and a small dose of ibuprofin. the aspirin will thin swims blood, to relieve at least some strain on his heart. while the ibuprofin will help with the pain in his chest.

by following these steps swim is managing to keep positive control on his body and mind. the only time swim starts to truly panic again is when he feels a sudden head rush (from his irregular heartbeat) or starts to think about his paranoia again. swim then has to stop his thinking, and concentrate back on what he KNOWS. and swim KNOWS he will be just fine.

swim also knows that tommorow hes going to smack himself for overdosing. (STUPID STUPID STUPID!)

hope swiy enjoyed, was good for swims anxiety to write it out. happy pharming.

[tayo]

watching tv (especially action movies), drinking gatorade, taking deep breaths, and chewing gum (to ease jaw pain from clinching/grinding), and SWIM would suggest Rhodiola Rosea, to anyone (all the time)... it has so many good effects that SWIM drinks it all the time. basically it's an adaptogen, and it will regulate dopamine, serotonin, and adrenaline to some extent. it also protects the heart from stress induced cardiac damage by inhibiting the mu-opiate receptors in the heart, and by doing that it stops arythmias.

http://content.herbalgram.org/new-ch...iew.asp?a=2333

[enquirewithin]

Calm down and your heart rate will surely slow down. It's almost impossible to actually overdose on amphetamines.

Maybe SWIY should thenk about whether adderall is worth taking or not. Speed makes people paranoid.

[cyndi]

For immediate relief swim would chew a klonopin for overamping. If something like that doesn't help after a while, go to er. You probably can't watch tv because when overamped, it will get on your nerves and make you more nervous. Or lay down as hard as it will be and shut your eyes, force yourself too and see if the heartrate goes down. Don't do activities like play video games or anything that will frustrate you. Maybe sit quietly on the porch and watch the clouds, something soothing. Hot Camomille tea with honey is good too, it is soothing. sp? For goodness sake don't take more thinking it will make swiy feel better, that could be bad. I have to respectfully disagree, oding can occur. Swim won't argue that point but doesn't want to see harm come to anyone.

Also swiy don't be hard on yourself, nobody is perfect. It comes with amping territory.

[EatTheApple41]

swim was very satisfied with the way he reacted to last nights episode. he knew he had crossed the line as soon as the 50mg XR crushed he parachuted started to kick in. unfamiliar with the immediate rush - and already tweaked on the previous 2 days - he realized the stupidity of his decision... and thus began his midnight affair with paranoia and anxiety

your responses are much appreciated, and by no means have your opinions been swept under the rug. swim decided if he has any further problems with binging, he'll follow your advice and switch to something else or stop recreational habits altogether. but at the moment, he feels the source of his problem is not the drug - but how he uses it.

he intends to greatly reduce his dosage, and frequency of intake for his next binge. he's realized through his own trials and tribulations that he never reaches that same initial peak from day 1, when hes on day 2 or 3. so binging for more than 36 hours seems fairly pointless anymore, and upping the dosage during a binge only results in what happened last night. again if after these new adjustments, he continues to have these serious side effects he'll most definetly give it up. thank you all very much for the input.

[ISeeShadowPeople]

and already tweaked on the previous 2 days - he realized the stupidity of his decision... and thus began his midnight affair with paranoia and anxiety

When I read that post I said hell yeah, here's a man who's walked in my shoes..

as the 50mg XR crushed he parachuted started to kick in. unfamiliar with the immediate rush - and already tweaked on the previous 2 days - he realized the stupidity of his decision... and thus began his midnight affair with paranoia and anxiety

Then I read this one and said.. 50 mgs? Yeah, yeah, I know - two days..

I hope SWIM understands this his midnight affair with paranoia and anxiety wouldn't have happened if he didn't freak out and consider what he did stupid.

In my opinion you people need to quit eating speed and getting on this forum because it's filled with nothing but lame "I OD'd" threads that are written by people who just can't ever fucking remain calm...

Like one man said, the actual Adderall over dosage limit is very high. 400-500 milligrams of pure amphetamine at one time MAY cause a overdose on some people.

SWIM's panic attacked was caused by his own mind. When he received the immediete rush he didn't think "Hell yeah, I'm high" - he thought "Oh know, I got to high."

The minute SWIY convinced himself he fucked up, he fucked his own self up. The rush scared him into thinking that he may have a panic attack. Then the thought of him maybe having a panic attack cause him to start to really panic. Now he knows he's officially panicking and not only convinces SWIY'self that he's may have a panic attack, but is telling himself that he actually overdosed.

You're paranoia and panic wasn't caused by a dumb decision or you pushing the limits.

You're paranoia was caused by negative thinking.

I just came on these boards a week ago and I'm not trying to sound like a Adderall superman, but the large amount of threads containing very very very low dosages you people are taking and freaking out on..

Man, maybe stimulants just ain't for you guys.. Seriously.

What I'm about to say isn't hyped up or exageratte, because believe me, I do not think that the larger amount of drugs you do the cooler you are.

But I do think is that threads like this one, and the one over there, and over there, are making people freak out.

All dosages are of crushed up XR time release beads.

SWIM woke up friday morning at 4 a.m.


11 a.m. ( Friday )
- 80 milligrams dissolved undre the tongue
- 60 sniffed.

10 p.m. ( Friday )
- 120 milligrams. A mixture of snorting and dissolving.

11 a.m.( Saturday )

- 80 milligrams. 20 snorted, 60 dissolved.

7 p.m. p.m.( Saturday )

- 80 milligrams. snorted and dissolved.

8-8:30 p.m. ( Saturday )

- 40 mgs ate in beads intact, in capsule form.

12:30 p.m. ( Sunday ) 120 mgs. 80 dissolved, 40 snorted.

11 p.m. ( Sunday ) 80 mgs dissolved.

4 a.m. ( Monday ) 40 MGs sniffed.

11 a.m ( Monday ) 60 MGS sniffed.

The time right now. 10:04 p.m. ( Monday )
Total Dosage: 760 milligrams of Adderall XR time beads in taken in three and a half days.

The past two days everytime I snort or let it dissolve under my tongue my heart starts beating extremely fast for 15 minutes and I have breathing trouble.

Because the speed is absorbing into my system! That is what the drug does, it speeds up everything. So of course the initial dose like the 50 mgs you took is going to make things your heart beat faster.

If i make it to four in the morning I've reached four days. While writing this I watched a black shadow cat crawl up my wall. I'm going to sit here for a moment and just look at my dark bedroom that is only lit by a TV and a computer screen and I'm going to report what I see.

- My coca cola bottle is sort of moving a centimeter at a time from the left to the right.
- I see smoke everywhere
- I'm getting annoyed at this post and my hearts beating fast. I'm going to stand up and make my body move a lil-


Current time now: 11:12 p.m.

780 mgs of dosage, if I don't eat my valium I can make it to four in the morning easy. My adderall bottles are empty.. No more adderall for me for atleast a month.

My point is this.. CALM THE FUCK DOWN OR MAYBE STIMS AIN'T FOR YOU !!!!!!

I'm not upping the dosage to make it higher. I'm not making up the fact that I see out-lines of shadows, because I am. I've noticed the cat everynow and then for like the past six hours.. I don't bother him, he don't bother me, we are cool like that..

780 mgs in four days.. Averaging 240 or so a day.

Guess what everyone, my heart beat was EXTREMELY fast for a good 10 to 15 minutes, but guess what... i laid down, breathed in and our real slow, and ...... it went away!!!!

sorry for the smart ass remarks but I'm fucking sick of watching people talk themselves into a OD every day on a dosage that I eat at one time.

This right here is a self-performed science test on adderall dosage. Certain people have different effects, I'm sure. But for christs sake, will you people quit getting "PUSHING THE LIMIT" with 100 or 150 mgs of speed and fucking freaking out for me?

Maybe you need to quit getting on a forum and reading OD threads while you speed. I sure as hell wish I didn't just make that decision..

Do something while speeding.. Look at porn, write a story, talk to somebody, make a puzzle, re-arrange folders for no reason at all. Do something besides posting ignorant topics blaming a drug for a "Panic attack" ( a.k.a I can't breathe good, my chest hurts ).that YOU caused on YOURSELF..

Except me.. please replace every me him her or it with a SWIM, SWIY, or how about this one.. Seriously everyone, here is the new drug-forum "you can't arrest me if i use a acronym" name. IJOIMH.

It stands for "I just OD'd In My Head."

Everybody take the new acronym and have fun with it, I bet you we don't see that fucking SWIM word every sentence anymore.

[EatTheApple41]

you sound a tad stressed. withdrawls? anxiety? depression?

[amanda_joy555]

Originally Posted by EatTheApple41

you sound a tad stressed. withdrawls? anxiety? depression?

Swim is also worried about his state of mind!

[ISeeShadowPeople]

No i'm fine.. I mean I've going to four days now, I just feel sorry for these people because honestly, the drug isn't causing them to have a panic attack

They are convincing themselves something is wrong when there isn't, and it's annoying because i feel sorry for them.. then a thread goes on for like a week long on how a man should divide out 40 milligrams worth of XR?

Explain this to me.. you're so tweaked on speed that you're second that you're then second away from actually having something bad to you.

Why do you get online and create a topic about it? Then sit and read a bunch of responses about going to the hospital and shit.. that won't make you feel better

they need to take a shower and drink a cup of water, then go enjoy there buzz..

I see a lot of Adderall information going around these boards that isn't exactly true. A panic attack ( anxiesty attack ) is when someone passes out from breathing. YOu know, Tony Soprano..

A panick attack isn't a pain in your chest and the heart beating fast.. i mean thats straight fact.. but they create a thread and sit and listen to people tell them scary shit..

man, stimulants aren't for these people.. if someone can't handle 40 mgs of speed, then what's the fucking point?

[amanda_joy555]

Originally Posted by ISeeShadowPeople

No i'm fine.. I mean I've going to four days now, I just feel sorry for these people because honestly, the drug isn't causing them to have a panic attack

They are convincing themselves something is wrong when there isn't, and it's annoying because i feel sorry for them.. then a thread goes on for like a week long on how a man should divide out 40 milligrams worth of XR?

Explain this to me.. you're so tweaked on speed that you're second that you're then second away from actually having something bad to you.

Why do you get online and create a topic about it? Then sit and read a bunch of responses about going to the hospital and shit.. that won't make you feel better

they need to take a shower and drink a cup of water, then go enjoy there buzz..

I see a lot of Adderall information going around these boards that isn't exactly true. A panic attack ( anxiesty attack ) is when someone passes out from breathing. YOu know, Tony Soprano..

A panick attack isn't a pain in your chest and the heart beating fast.. i mean thats straight fact.. but they create a thread and sit and listen to people tell them scary shit..

man, stimulants aren't for these people.. if someone can't handle 40 mgs of speed, then what's the fucking point?

I have two things to say to this... http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/ima...lies/crazy.gif First thing: Swim really enjoys your posts Shadow Swiy loves reading about your point of view and also your daily adventures lol good times! Second thing: some stuff all swiys discuss on here is opinion but sometimes its not and I have to disagree almost COMPLETELY with everything swiy said above...swims bored and has no desire to help cook or set up her family's 4th of July thing today so swims going to write you a novel. Swim had to write a 60 page thesis paper last semester about dopamine and how levels of it in the brain are altered by various drugs...and the effects...so swim will share what she learned Swim is simply amazed about the extreme differences in tolerance among amphetamine users. That was the first thing about these message boards that intrigued her. Swim is extremely 'overstimulated' if she takes 40 mg XR and figured because she even has a tolerance after taking Adderall for 18 months that almost anyone would also feel that way! However, swim now knows that this isn't true and it makes sense if swiy really thinks about it. Examples--Two Extremes: How many ppl does swiy know that only need 5 hrs of sleep, are extremely alert, conscientious, full of energy, and are that way naturally without any sort of drug? (swim might even go as far as to say these ppl don't need to eat as much and are hornier lol) All that sounds great but these people are also more inclined to be anxious, full of worries, and restless. Swim can think of at least a handful of ppl like this. On the end of the spectrum, swim knows ppl who absolutely need nine hrs of sleep in order to function, usually tired throughout the day, aloof, sluggish, etc. They are also usually easy going, care-free, content, and calm. Our hypothalamus indirectly (via pituitary gland's hormone secretions) determines our energy levels, sleep patterns, hunger, and also indirectly (via Gonadotropin-releasing hormone) influences our sexual appetites and our emotions/moods. Maybe 10 mg XR would be a high dose to people who already have much faster metabolic processes because their hypothalamus has an uncommonly (not necessarily good or bad) fast 'rhythm' and metabolic standards naturally and if swiy mixes in coke meth or any stimulant it doesn't feel good and swiy is just too wired. IF, though, swiys natural 'rhythm' is slower, then higher doses of stimulants such as 40 mg or even 90 mg (if swim remembers correctly) in swiys personal case. Swim honestly (and without a doubt) knows that 90 mg Adderall XR would be a horrible experience; swim would have problems with anxiety, paranoia, very very very rapid heartbeat, and hallucinations. 40 mg XR did that to her. Everyone's bodies are different and thats why swiys enjoy different drugs you also said that panic attacks and the symptoms of them were misrepresented on these boards, but medical doctors agree that panic attacks very frequently involve rapid heart beat, tightness in chest, numbing/tingling, sweating...if swiy doesn't believe doctors' agreed upon symptoms of panic/anxiety attacks who does swiy believe?

[ISeeShadowPeople]

but medical doctors agree that panic attacks very frequently involve rapid heart beat, tightness in chest, numbing/tingling, sweating

Those are also the symptoms of jogging a mile, what's your point? Please tell me you didn't have a panic attack at the end of the mile time run in high school..

Whether they're symptoms of a panic attack or not a person is not having a panic attack if he is having them symptoms. I forget what stupid thread it was but someone literally wrote "I'm currently having a panic attack."

That statement was foolish and made him look retarded. If he was having a real panic attack he wouldn't be able to type.. until AFTER the panic attack.

So whatever your point was with the whole "I believe a doctor over you" statement really doesn't make any sense.

I may go off track here but that's because you wrote your entire debate speech in a clusterfu-k of bad grammar and no comma's. Add that to the constant SWIM and SWIY terms being used even though NOTHING AGAINST THE LAW was being mentioned, the entire thing you just wrote is very hard for me to understand.

I actually had to read it twice to notice that you don't agree with me. Well um, okay. Allow me to explain why I am right and then maybe you will agree with me.

Swim honestly (and without a doubt) knows that 90 mg Adderall XR would be a horrible experience; swim would have problems with anxiety, paranoia, very very very rapid heartbeat, and hallucinations.

First off, Adderall does not at anytime cause hallucinations. Sleep deprivation from the lack of sleep caused from over-use of adderall causes hallucinations.

So if you eat a 90 mgs of Adderall XR and you start to hallucinate then something is wrong with you.

Now let me get this correct.. You've been eating Adderall XR on a day-to-day basis for the past 18 months, right? Let me tell you something sweety.. a extra 50 mgs added to the dosage one day would not hurt you.

Unless you let it hurt you of course by honestly ( WITHOUT A DOUBT ) convincing yourself that the dosage would be a nightmare before you even eat the dosage. Eating a extra 50 milligrams of speed doesn't guarantee a bad experience. Truth is if you wasn't so paranoid from the start the 90 milligrams of speed could end up being a ground breaking amazing experience.

I'll use Acid as a example of what I'm saying. If you show up on any drug forum on the internet and say..

"I'm about to eat Acid for the first time, I'm scared of having a bad trip, any suggestions?"

The first suggestion is almost all the time will be..

"Now probably isn't a good time for you to eat Acid. If you're already worried about having a bad trip then there is a good chance you will infact have a bad trip.."

You see what I'm saying? Acid doesn't cause bad trips the same way that a 90 mg dose of Adderall doesn't cause terrible experiences. Your mind-state 90 percent of the time causes a bad trip on acid just like your current mind state is keeping you away from eating a high dosage of speed.

The same sub-conscience elements enter into the same category of any narcotic that you take. If you are already determined bad things are going to happen to you, then yeah, they're probably going to happen.

So let's say you do eat a extra 50 mgs worth of speed. Paranoia, anxiety, and certainly not hallucinations are not a guarantee. However, I do guarantee that you will have a rabid heart beat. Once you have this rabid heart beat you have two options..

Ignore it and let it go away like I do orr....

Worry yourself "INTO" panic like everyone else in this forum would for some reason or another choose to do.

Different people have different bodies and the tolerance level does change from person to person, I agree with you..

But shit ya'll..

I ate 760 milligrams in three and a half days and I never once came close to having a panic attack. So I'm sorry but when you compare the number 760 to 90 you will notice that there is 670 mgs difference between the two dosages. That's a large fu-king number..

It is so large infact that common sense should tell anyone with a brain that 90 milligrams worth of speed can not harm you at all if I can sit back and eat seven times that amount and be completely fine.

So when I say that someone is full of shit when they're having a panic attack in a thread due to eating 100 milligrams worth of adderall, I stand by it.

So for the 100th time.. That person's panic attack ( which isn't even a panic attack ) is not being caused by the adderall.. It's being caused by negative thinking.

About five hours ago I ate 90 milligrams worth of amphetamine tablets and a hour after that I ate another 60 milligrams and I'm still flying high..

panic attacks very frequently involve rapid heart beat, tightness in chest, numbing/tingling, sweating...

I'm going to play this game with you because I think I've figured out a way to explain my point. I haven't paid attention to my heart beat all day but I just did since this is a debate and all..

Guess what, my heart beat is very very rabid. I'm also sweating due to the rabid heart beat. There isn't a tightness in my chest but I did just notice that my finger tips feel a lil numb as I type. Since I don't have a tightness in my chest I will add in the fact that my hands as well as my body are kinda "shaky," this is also a symptom of a panic attack.

So I'm experiencing four different symptoms of a panic attack. Now that I've realized this I'm guessing that it's now time for me to create a thread and ask around to see if anyone else thinks there is something wrong.

Nah, I've decided against doing that once I realized that it would make me look f-cking ignorant.

I'm sure glad that I was born with enough common sense to realize that while doctors ALL OVER have listed these things as symptoms of a panic attack you can find each and everyone of them on another list made up by doctors.. The list is called..

SIDE EFFECTS FROM STIMULANT USE/ABUSE.

Now me, I'm smart enough to know that so when my heart starts to beat faster I ignore it and light up another cigarette.. I find this more enjoyable then asking myself things like..

"Is my heart beating faster? I don't know. I wonder how fast is too fast.."

Sound familiar? I'm sure it does.

Now whether you like it or not when you ask yourselves questions like that then your heart is NOT going to slow down.

if swiy doesn't believe doctors' agreed upon symptoms of panic/anxiety attacks who does swiy believe?

"SWIY" is going to believe whatever she chooses to believe. If "SWIY" begins to worry about the side effects he/she is experiencing from using a stimulant then "SWIY" is going to panic. If your heart starts to beat faster you're going to sweat. However it is YOU who decides whether or not the fact that you're sweating is a big deal.

Trust me people it's not.

I was nice before but fu-k it, who cares. If you take four or five little things that are the result of using stimulants and turn those little things into a reason to panic and you come on this message forum talking about you're scared that you're going to OD or have a panic attack...

YOU'RE A F-CK-N MORON!

Not only that but you're not experienced enough in the use of drugs and you should seriously change your lifestyle.

The first time I ever ate Adderall I was 14.

I had a girlfriend who had a bottle of 60 mg pills. Let me point out that XR capsules didn't exist back then. I ate three of them and went home.. 180 mgs of pure speed in my first dose. I was up for three days straight..

Did I have a panic attack or even think about the possibility? Fuck no, I spent atleast 55 of those 72 hours laying in bed playing Suikoden III on the playstation two. For three days is was literally a living character in that fucking game..

It was intense, it was extreme, it was fucking awesome.

So I'm going to bring up that extra 50 milligrams of speed that you're so certain is going to ruin everything once again. I was 14 years old and ate 180 milligrams the first time I ever done the drug and I was fine the entire time.

Trust me hun, 50 milligrams of extra "fuel" isn't going to harm you unless you allow it.

Drugs and the effects they have on you ARE ALL IN YOUR MIND. The Placebo effect is real, science agrees with me. Don't allow a placebo effect to make yourself go into a panic attack. Yes, I know I basically reversed the entire placebo effect idea but that's because it is what it is..

Hopefully now you understand me..

If at any time I came off as a smart ass or rude then I apologize because I have no problem with you, it's just my swagger.. I love to argue and I'm pretty good at it if you haven't noticed..

Soo I guess what I'm saying is..

"No offense man, no offense!"

*wink wink*

I'm not bragging, I'm just using my experience with this substance to explain my point. 760 mgs didn't make me OD or have a panic attack..

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i will not say what i think

[ISeeShadowPeople]

Whether they're symptoms of a panic attack or not a person is not having a panic attack if he is having them symptoms. I forget what stupid thread it was but someone literally wrote "I'm currently having a panic attack."

Well what do you know.. it was this stupid thread.

[ISeeShadowPeople]

I'm not bragging, I'm just using my experience with this substance to explain my point. 760 mgs didn't make me OD or have a panic attack..

I just noticed that at the end of my thread after the *wink wink* Please ignore it beacuse it's just a misplaced sentence.. I'm now pissed that a misplaced sentence ruined my beautiful debate..

Will a "SWIY" or a "SWIM" please create a f-cking edit button..

[amanda_joy555]

Shadow you said: "I may go off track here but that's because you wrote your entire debate speech in a clusterfu-k of bad grammar and no comma's. Add that to the constant SWIM and SWIY terms being used even though NOTHING AGAINST THE LAW was being mentioned, the entire thing you just wrote is very hard for me to understand." Swim purposely took twice as much adderall that was prescribed to swim for 4 or so days straight so she could party all day/night and not sleep...not as bad as shooting up heroine swim supposes, but after reading the forum rules swim decided to use swim. A person's heart rate increasing because of running a mile is pointless to your debate. Sitting still and having those symptoms is very different than having them after exercise. Swiy clearly hasn't had a panic attack so swiy can't understand this. Commas are overrated...

[amanda_joy555]

Shadow : "First off, Adderall does not at anytime cause hallucinations. Sleep deprivation from the lack of sleep caused from over-use of adderall causes hallucinations. So if you eat a 90 mgs of Adderall XR and you start to hallucinate then something is wrong with you." OMG! Swim can't read any further. This is too frustrating. Swiy needs to research before posting innaccurate statements. Look up Drugs.com or Healthsquare.com. Actually just look it up on any site. Swim is too frustrated to ever post on this thread again or read any further; good luck and take care

[amanda_joy555]

Shadow: 'I just noticed that at the end of my thread after the *wink wink* Please ignore it beacuse it's just a misplaced sentence.. I'm now pissed that a misplaced sentence ruined my beautiful debate thinks your 'rabid' heartbeat did that... ' yes curiosity got the best of swim and she read swiys entire post. Swiy sounded delusional from swiys high dose of stimulants. Swim wasn't impressed with swiys debate but thats not important to swiy so whatever. BUT swim enjoyed swiys comma usage...HOT! p.s. swim has had panic attacks with and without using adderall and knows how they feel. Swiy should never take on an arrogant tone for not being susceptible to panic attacks. Good for swiy...lucky swiy... yes, swiy is superior: being blessed by being a genetically mutated, speed eating, overly confident, lean and green debatin' machine. Average joes that do suffer from panic attacks because of drugs or whatever other reasons should feel inferior to swiy.

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that guy you reply to must have brain damage...

[ISeeShadowPeople]

Shadow: 'I just noticed that at the end of my thread after the *wink wink* Please ignore it beacuse it's just a misplaced sentence.. I'm now pissed that a misplaced sentence ruined my beautiful debate thinks your 'rabid' heartbeat did that... ' yes curiosity got the best of swim and she read swiys entire post. Swiy sounded delusional from swiys high dose of stimulants. Swim wasn't impressed with swiys debate but thats not important to swiy so whatever. BUT swim enjoyed swiys comma usage...HOT! p.s. swim has had panic attacks with and without using adderall and knows how they feel. Swiy should never take on an arrogant tone for not being susceptible to panic attacks. Good for swiy...lucky swiy... yes, swiy is superior: being blessed by being a genetically mutated, speed eating, overly confident, lean and green debatin' machine. Average joes that do suffer from panic attacks because of drugs or whatever other reasons should feel inferior to swiy.

Hahaha.. That was funny..

I'm not being saracastic either, good job..

I just explained my point of view after you explained yours. I'm sorry you seem offended.. Calm down hun..

Nothing personal..i was having fun..

yeah, i'm a adderall giant.. *toots his horn*

come on now.. everyone who does drugs knows that drug consumption is not cool.. i mean, for real..

i don't know.. a lot of bad shit happened tonight in my real life so my forum life doesn't seem to important..

[ISeeShadowPeople]

Swiy needs to research before posting innaccurate statements.

My name isn't SWIY and making innaccurate statements isn't against the law.

[EatTheApple41]

Originally Posted by ISeeShadowPeople

My name isn't SWIY and making innaccurate statements isn't against the law.

Shadow, you need to chillax. The point of SWIM's post was to show what SWIY's can do to help calm themselves down and actually enjoy their ride. Then you go off on this ego trip about how you amped for 4 days, on so many mg's. It wasnt about "oh my god, SWIM is having a panic attack!!" - it was to show if you start to feel a little paniced from what you're feeling.. just relax. Do something to get your mind off the neg effects..

Heres some food for thought.. do some more research. Just by what I've read from your posts.. its obvious you're an amateur pharmer.. sorry kid.. but take the bullshit elsewhere. - most people post on these forums to share experiences, ideas, and tips with other pharmers. Seems like you just wanna run your mouth about how much higher of a dose you've taken than everyone else - and how you're a badass because you've amped for 4 days..

moderator - close the thread -- no need for further discussion on this topic.

[ISeeShadowPeople]

What the fuck dude, are you serious?

Do you even read what i say? I don't brag about my dosage of mgs.. I've even said that shit before.. I used my past experiences as a example to explain what I'm saying..

I'm a amatuer pharmer? You fucking had a "anxiety attack" on probably 150 mgs...

The ONLY thing I did was explain to you that you're fucking talking yourself into panic...

I never once said you're cool if you eat 760 mgs in four days..

I said since I can eat 760 mgs then there is NO reason someone should wig out over eating 100 like you're ignorant ass..

Close the fed moderator? Who the fuck are you.. Close your mouth..