Experiences - Disconcerting Triggers Occuring Over LSD Trips?

[Dalfir]

Has anyone else experienced the phenomenon of the same uncomfortable thought patterns recurring over a number of trips? With each trip, getting more detailed and explored?

SWIM's second LSD trip was very intense and overwhelming with thoughts of permanent psychosis. His first LSD trip was incredible and euphoric because he was naive to such thoughts.

Third LSD trip had tinges of fear that he'd be spending the rest of his life on anti-psychotics, because of an overwhelming sense of de ja vu and finding excessive metaphor in mundane events and occurences (opening a soda can had a world of meaning) that became distracting. He was able to bypass these thoughts and not allow them to a trigger a trip like the last one and have a pleasent, beneficial trip.

Today he had 2g of P. Cubensis shrooms at home. His first time tripping at home, because he thought it'd be a comfortable and predictable environment. There was the initial euphoria and visual distortions that lasted about 15 minutes, then when he tried to plug his PS2 into his TV, he found the task absolutely daunting and exhausting.

The euphoria soon left as did the hallucinations and he was left with jumbled thought patterns. Once again, finding meaning and symbology in the meaningless and having an intense feeling of de ja vu. He was pretty sure that he'd need to be put on anti-psychotics, because the shrooms had caused a psychotic break. This was probably because of the fact that he felt none of the euphoria or love that he normally does on psychedelics and he was getting bored, nothing seemed to satisfy him.

Eventually the effects tapered off and he felt a lot more level-headed, but he's feeling a bit of apprehension about using psychedelics again in case the feelings that have carried over from his second trip intensify and maybe do cause something detrimental.

He obviously has a fear of going insane.

Is his mind maybe telling him to watch out, or is this just something he needs to get over to fully enjoy himself?

[theothercomrade]

Originally Posted by Dalfir

The euphoria soon left as did the hallucinations and he was left with jumbled thought patterns. Once again, finding meaning and symbology in the meaningless and having an intense feeling of de ja vu. He was pretty sure that he'd need to be put on anti-psychotics, because the shrooms had caused a psychotic break. This was probably because of the fact that he felt none of the euphoria or love that he normally does on psychedelics and he was getting bored, nothing seemed to satisfy him.

Eventually the effects tapered off and he felt a lot more level-headed, but he's feeling a bit of apprehension about using psychedelics again

I actually just recently experienced somthing almost identitcal to this.

I've done LSD twice (which is pretty aside from the matter) but two weeks ago I took some shrooms with my friend and once the haullucinations and initial happiness/euphoria wore off that overwelming feeling that nothing seemed to satisfy me happened. I knew there was somthing I wanted to but couldn't figure out what it was and it was so frustrating. I put on several different movies, music and tried other things and nothing was hitting the spot. anyway it just made for a really confusing and mediocre trip. I've done mushies 7 times and have had some absolutely wonderful trips but this is making me question using psychedelics a bit. I've always really really enjoyed them but there was somthing about that trip that really irritates me. Anyway I did mushrooms on friday and due to some overhyping on the quality front we only took about 2.5 g's (according to the guy these were so good if we took anymore he thought we'd trip way too much... but to no avail) and it didn't make for much tripping and further has left a bad taste. I'm begining to think that maybe after experienceing LSD and Mushrooms a few times the wonder and excitement has kinda been absent from my trips since i've already experienced it but that just seems illogical as before every trip was in some way a new experience.

Anyway I dunno how i really adressed the issue but I was just caught off gaurd by your post cause I've been browsing this place for the last two weeks to see if anyone else has experienced anyhting similar and you pretty much hit the parts i quoted dead on.

And if anyone could reinstill my hope in psychedelics itd be much appreciated (I'm sure dalfir would appreciate it aswell) cause I used to really love tripping and now i'm kinda on the fense.

[theothercomrade]

When I use "I" in the above post ofcourse im usng it as the inital for my friend Ishmel and not in reference to myself. I've heard stories about drug use but never touched the stuff personally... though Ishmel loves to trip.


...Godamnit wheres the edit function when you need it!?

[Nagognog2]

Okay kids. What are the triggers? Don't write them out here. But you know what they are. Those are the items of your psyche you need to address - without the LSD.

Come on. Lay your cards on the table. Until you do that, your playing Russian Roulette every time you take acid etc. Hint: Getting rid of these items is not the goal. Acceptence is.

[Dalfir]

But how can one address fears of insanity (or perhaps it's fears of never being satisfied) when in a sober state? I know it's a hump I need to get over, but I wouldn't know where to start.

I don't have any history of mental illness in my family and I've never had traumatic events around mentally ill people, so I wouldn't know where to start in addressing possible emotional trauma.

Pay a visit to a psychologist?

Do you think that someone using psychedelics without first addressing some hidden emotional baggage could lead to something permanently detrimental? Can a mental disorder arise directly from emotional trauma experienced on a trip or does there need to be an already latent disease present for that to happen?

[Benjamin Construct]

swim definetly has had a tuff time collecting himself now after taking lsd 5 years ago.....it has caused him indirect spiritual awakenings over and over again, uncontrolled ESP and worst but no least a fear of constant insanity which his therapist thinks is directly related to a exsisting anxiety trend uprooted in his subconcious mind......swim stopped with the drugs all at once and to this day still finds it hard to think about what it all meant........swim really believes that it can be healed thru the likes of forums like this and ultra educated investigations!!!!!! (cognitive theraphy as well as meditation!!) swim know sthat the lsd was trying to show him something but becaus ehis poor understanding of the drugs he resisted it therefore causing major turmoil which should and could have been dealt with at the time!! al the best educate yourself !!!