Smoking Ice but no smoke!

[frenchywife]

SWIM has smoked meth a couple of times using an oil burner and would always blow out huge plumes of smoke. SWIM decided to take some time off and has decided to hit the pipe once more. However, it seems that something is either majorly wrong or SWIM is an idiot. For some reason, when SWIM and friends now hit the pipe, no smoke comes out - what is going on?

SWIM was always under the impression that the more smoke blown out, the better, is this true? SWIM thinks the procedures taken are correct: fill pipe, light pipe, but gently to melt/vaporize the shards, let cool and then let it recrystallize, then hit it!

Any ideas or suggestions - thanks!

[vantranist]

SWIM just loads shards into bulb... Lets heat up for about 3 seconds until it starts smoking then pulls smoke into lungs... If its not smoking then it probobly isnt meth...

its a pretty simple Procedure... it melts---> it smokes--->you inhale----> you blow out.

If its smoking and you just dont see the smoke getting blown out mabye its caus your lungs are abosorbing it all... dunno what to tell you.

[cyndi]

Swim thinks swiy got some bunk because it definitely isn't meth or was really stomped on. Smoking is definitely not rocket science. However swim has done stupid things like let the oiler get too hot and the stuff vaporized when swim was in a hurry.

[frenchywife]

Originally Posted by cyndi

Swim thinks swiy got some bunk because it definitely isn't meth or was really stomped on. Smoking is definitely not rocket science. However swim has done stupid things like let the oiler get too hot and the stuff vaporized when swim was in a hurry.

SWIM thinks that is exactly what happened! First of all, SWIM and friends were using a Bic lighter instead of a torch and the tip of the flame was used instead of the blue so the pipe wasn't getting hot enough. It took awhile to figure this out, however, it was worth the wait!

It's been awhile for SWIM & Co. - practice makes perfect!

[vantranist]

ODD swims cystals can melt with the tip of a bic flame 3 inches away.

But if it works it woriks.

[cyndi]

No agree a torch is better. A regular lighter just doesn't get it and leaves the oiler a mess.

[vantranist]

Refering to me? ha... no SWIM disagrees a normal lighter can melt my stuff easily with the flame far away, the stuff melts at a very low temp even the thicker cystals and with a torch feels its too hot and unnessesary.

[cyndi]

Oh just sharing swims experience with both, no problem or disrespect intended. Swim probably shouldn't have posted here anyway.

[garbled]

Originally Posted by frenchywife

SWIM was always under the impression that the more smoke blown out, the better, is this true?

Why do people think the biggest cloud you can produce is better? All that smoke is dope. Dope only works when it's in SWIM, not when it's hanging in the air in front of SWIM's face.

Low heat, low inhale, low smoke equals more high. SWIM had a friend who could not wrap his brain around that concept. Friend tried to blow storm clouds. Friend also consumed dope approximately twice as fast as SWIM and was always asking SWIM for more. Move dope from Point A to Point B. Any dope lost in transfer is dope lost. Minimize dope loss.

[manda]

It's probably fuckin' garbage. Had some like that once, w/out smoke and barely stayed up one night.

[manda]

It's nothing you're doing wrong, can almost guarantee it.

[beentheredonethatagain]

Yep it's bunk, they sell at headshops this stuff looks like the real thing and when its heated it melts real nice and leaves no burn or traces, but it will give you zero smoke and it will not get you off. It is straight cut, i don't know what its called , I ve seen it at the headshops behind the counter, I think its made to cut with, but I've seen it resold as is. test the product you buy first , sounds like you have the wrong supplier.

[manda]

Or maybe they just ran into some bad shit. Let them know it was crap, if you want, but they probably already do.

[cyndi]

Originally Posted by garbled

Why do people think the biggest cloud you can produce is better? All that smoke is dope. Dope only works when it's in SWIM, not when it's hanging in the air in front of SWIM's face.

Low heat, low inhale, low smoke equals more high. SWIM had a friend who could not wrap his brain around that concept. Friend tried to blow storm clouds. Friend also consumed dope approximately twice as fast as SWIM and was always asking SWIM for more. Move dope from Point A to Point B. Any dope lost in transfer is dope lost. Minimize dope loss.

Swim's knows this very well. very very well. Oh goodness, a swiy doesn't just vaporize their stuff with a hot torch or that is silly. The flame has to be low, and barely touch the glass. The bowl will fill with smoke, then inhale. A bic, well swim tried that too and more waste. Swim will let it go at that. Now for the original post, swiy is doing nothing wrong, swiy got some bunk. Swim doesn't understand why swiy's are justifying bad dope. Swim got very annoyed when she spent money on pure bunk. Also a dealer will sell the "good" stuff to draw swimmers in and the next time swiy is expecting the same, it usually isn't unless swiy has a good one which is rare. Dealers know what they are doing, more bang for the buck and will stomp it good, then justify to swiy that oh I didn't know man. Please.

[manda]

That's fucked up. It is SO hard to find a dealer you can trust for this stuff. I've found one in 14 years of doing it. If you don't have one you really trust, like a good or best friend, it is truly hit or miss. Then sometimes if you really want it, it's easy to trust Joe Blow in a weak moment.
Dope sells itself- easily. Dealers can do whatever the fuck they want, pretty much.

[vantranist]

If they new what was good for them they would sell good shit... Making less on each sell would probably pay off because they would build up customers and would always come back...

[beentheredonethatagain]

the problem is that its illeagal. drugs are inconsistant and people are always getting popped, if it were not a felony people would have easier time, buying or sellling. how much is your freedom worth. i am not on the dealers side when they cut dope, I just wonder how making a few dollars and maybe having to spend a lot on a lawyer or bondsman they even sometimes go to prison so they get all they can from us when they can.

[cyndi]

Originally Posted by manda

That's fucked up. It is SO hard to find a dealer you can trust for this stuff. I've found one in 14 years of doing it. If you don't have one you really trust, like a good or best friend, it is truly hit or miss. Then sometimes if you really want it, it's easy to trust Joe Blow in a weak moment.
Dope sells itself- easily. Dealers can do whatever the fuck they want, pretty much.

Swim likes swiy, swiy seems not to be a fool and is straight up. Swiy knows the game as I can tell from the posts. And that is what it is. Swiy is right, dealers do the fuck they want all of the time. Customers keep coming back, bunk or not, don't kid yourself, not directed at swiy at others.

[cyndi]

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

the problem is that its illeagal. drugs are inconsistant and people are always getting popped, if it were not a felony people would have easier time, buying or sellling. how much is your freedom worth. i am not on the dealers side when they cut dope, I just wonder how making a few dollars and maybe having to spend a lot on a lawyer or bondsman they even sometimes go to prison so they get all they can from us when they can.

People get popped all the time for being well stupid for lack of a better word. If swiy plays the game, swiy must watch his back. That is just how it is. Dealers are not stupid, now you will run across some that are. Those are the ones that are usually behind bars eventually. Swim is on her side, not the dealers, as oh in business that is how swiy must keep it. Dealers Swim repeats are not your friend. They are out to make a buck. They could care less if your shit is stomped, and do it all the time. They know swiy will be back as there is just enough dope in there to keep swiy coming back. Many swimmers don't really even know what they are getting. Read some of the threads. Also swim doesn't know many real dealers that go to prison, it is usually the middle men that spend time behind bars. Oy vey, if you play, learn.

[cyndi]

Originally Posted by vantranist

If they new what was good for them they would sell good shit... Making less on each sell would probably pay off because they would build up customers and would always come back...

Yeah the "good" ones do which makes sense and swiy would have to look very very hard to find one. Good luck on that quest by the way. Most swim knows play the game.