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Old 22-06-2007, 23:57
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National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

Calling the federal agents surrounding his fortified compound "guns for hire," a New Hampshire man convicted of tax evasion vowed today that he and his wife would fight U.S. marshals to the death if they tried to capture them.

"Do not under any circumstances make any attempt on this land. We will not accept any tomfoolery by any criminal element, be it federal, state or local," said Ed Brown in a press conference from the stoop of his concrete-clad home in Plainfield, N.H. "We either walk out of here free or we die."
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Brown and his wife, Elaine, were sentenced in absentia in April to serve 63 months in prison for failing to pay more than $1 million in income tax.

The couple, however, insists that there is no law that requires citizens to pay income tax.

"There is no law. We looked and looked," Brown told the press.

Brown and his supporters, including Randy Weaver, leader of the 1992 standoff with ATF agents at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, told the press that the government has unlawfully tricked people into believing they have to pay income tax, knowing full well that such a law would be unconstitutional.

"We will defend it to the death. This is 1776 all over again. You cannot tax someone's labor because that is slavery," Brown said.

Carrying a pistol in his waistband, Brown also insisted that he could not receive a fair trial in a federal court because "the court system falls under freemasonry."
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"There [are] no longer any lawful courts. The Freemasons have taken over our nation. … [Freemasons want] to take over our nation and all nations on the planet," Brown said.

Weaver, whose son was killed by federal agents and who later received a $100,000 settlement from the government, said he was there to support the Browns.

"I'd rather die on my feet right here than die on my knees under this de facto government," he said. "Bring it on."

Despite months of surveillance and reports of agents hiding in the woods of the couple's 110-acre compound, U.S. marshals said this morning that the Brown's Plainfield, N.H., home was not surrounded by their officers. U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier made an effort to starkly contrast the actions of the Marshals with those of the ATF agents who besieged Ruby Ridge in 1992. In addition to Weaver's son, one federal agent was killed in that incident.

"There is no standoff and the house is not surrounded." Monier told ABC News.com. "We have no intention of assaulting the house or engaging in a violent confrontation."


Monier said he believed Weaver would attend the press conference the Browns are hosting this afternoon. He said Weaver and others -- some of whom are believed to have brought the couple weapons -- have been freely allowed to enter Brown's property.

"There is no reason to block Weaver. People are free to exercise their First Amendment rights," Monier said. "We are not setting up roadblocks or surrounding the house."

In April, Ed and Elaine Brown were sentenced in absentia to 63 months in prison for failing to pay more than $1 million in taxes.

Since failing to appear in court the couple has remained within the concrete-fortified walls of their rural New Hampshire home.

Monier said the Marshals have been communicating with the couple in an effort to get them to turn themselves over the federal authorities without having to resort to the use of force.

"We know they have weapons and we do not want to see this escalate," he said.

Last week agents cut off the home's telephone, Internet and power access. Monier said the couple most likely had generators -- possibly solar or wind powered -- but that eventually the Browns would become uncomfortable enough in their isolation that they would be forced to surrender.

"They probably have generators but those will soon need fuel and need people to fix them. We want to continue to encourage them, and make it uncomfortable enough for them that they'll give up."

Brown said he and his wife had enough supplies to wait out the government no matter how long it lasted. He said the couple did not use air conditioning and could chop down trees from firewood.Last week, Danny Riley a friend of the Browns was arrested near their home by federal agents while walking the couple's dog.

The Marshals claim they were engaged in routine surveillance of the property, but the Browns believe Riley thwarted a potential raid.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3290003&page=1
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Old 23-06-2007, 00:37
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

KOO-KOO!

Seriously, I just want to know how this made the news.


"I will never surrender to the ever-multiplying hordes of bats that continue to surround my house," said Jimson Datura this afternoon in a press conference that took place entirely within the confines of his mind. "Whenever I leave my house and look up at the sky, they're there — circling, circling. They'll never take me alive!"

Spokespersons representing the bat-hordes could not be reached for comment.


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Old 23-06-2007, 00:46
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

does anyone here know the federal law saying you have to pay taxes?ive heard from any sources it dosent exist. and i belive this man,is quite sane.
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration - US constitution. there is NO law, state or federal that requires citizens to pay direct tax on their income, UNLESS that tax is upon a capitol gain. the man in his concrete hut is correct.
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The first taxes were collected on distilled spirits (whiskey) after the Revolutionary War. The first Federal tax occurred during the Great Depression. It was an amendment.
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Old 23-06-2007, 01:24
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but wasent the amendment passed kinda secretly?a late night session and tacked on to the end of another bill?
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

I have a feeling that a guy who's hiding from those damn Freemasons with lots of guns is not in fact one of the shrewdest legal minds of our time.
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

theres a lot of debate about the 16th amendment

http://www.kickthemallout.com/static...Never_Ratified

furthermore, this debate weighs more upon the meaning of income. in corperate tax income has only to do with profit, capitol gains, meaning that the government can only tax revenue after all costs have been paid, whereas with income tax on citizens it is a DIRECT tax upon the person. if a company loses money over a financial cycle, it will pay little to no taxes, if a person makes less than he or she needs to, he will still be expected to pay a portion of his revenue as income tax. if income can be defined as capitol gains for corperations, why then should the "income tax" levied against everyday citizens be upon revenue?
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I heard the BTAF is coming by for a party soon. They'll bring a barbecue!
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No capitation, or other direct Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken. - US constitution
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

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No capitation, or other direct Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken. - US constitution
Isn't that what the 16th ammendment superceded?
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it cannot be "superceeded" as such, in modern litigations the 16th amendment is looked at as expanding upon, or explaining the above statement, even though the two seem to contradict each other.
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Re: National heros: New Hampshire Couple Vows to Fight Feds to the Death

Aaron Russo's documentary America: Freedom to Fascism has a wealth of information on this subject:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=4


The important thing to remember about law is the difference between de jure and de facto. They may not have the law on their side, but they do have the guns. The entire War on Some Drugs is unconstitutional, yet they persist.



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