Question about Hippie Flips: E+Shrooms

[betty_bupe]

Hi all,



My birthday is coming up, and I want to try a hippie flip: E and
mushrooms...I've heard it's an amazing buzz, that the mushrooms
lengthen the duration of the MDMA. Pure beautiful synergy.



I've never done it before, so I'm wondering how I should time my
ingestions- mushrooms first, then E? Vice Versa? I'll
probably take one tab of E- what quantity of shroomies should I
eat? 1gm? More, Less?



To all the other Scorpio/Sag cusp people-Scorsagians- happy impending birthdays!



love Betty_Bupe

[Micklemouse]

A gorgeous combination Betty, one of the best, or so I'm told! A Certain Mouse recommends the E first, ride out the intial rushes, then top up with shrooms after an hour or two when the E has settled in a bit, a little at a time(again leave an hour so for the shrooms to kick in between top ups) to keep the serotonin pumping, but to avoid wigging out with an overload!

Synergy is spot on for this one, (they could have been made for one another!) but timing is important. Taking the shrooms too soon can be a bit intense, and bear in mind it's easy to lose track of time and how much you've taken! Swim's been caught out by pigging out and impatience/spacing out many times, and ended up a grinning mess of jelly in the corner waiting to be scraped up and made a cup of tea !

Have fun and a wicked birthday!!!

Reputation Comments on this post:

SWIMs glad he's not the only one who's been turned to a gooey grinning incapable mess, It still makes him smile. In futu...

[Micklemouse]

ps, to start (or finish!) things off with a bit of style, crush up a bit of E(1/4 pill should do it) and sprinkle it in a glass of fizz(champers or cava)...it is your birthday after all!

[betty_bupe]

thanks Mickelmouse....



Can you tell me a bit about your experience(s) with this combo? I
am excited, but also a bit nervous...I have only heard glowing reports,
but most are second or third hand info...



Thanks a lot!



cheers,

Betty_Bupe

[Micklemouse]

Hehe! Where to start? Hallucinogens have always brought out the childlike part of the Mouse, and mdma can make him very naughty, although powder renders him incapable of swearing - strange but true, He just can't seem to say anything more offensive than 'gosh', although can still offend and shock with the best of'em,if not more so! Watch out for the honesty - shrooms are a truth drug! Here's what A Certain Mouse told me -

The body rushes and connections are incredible, very earthy, especially if you're dancing to dirty techno, house, electro or dub(so long as it's dirrrty and bass-heavy I'm happy!), and even more so at an outdoor party, with the opportunity to go and run around some woods and be a hippy for a while. There's nothing better in the world than dancing up the sunrise to funky tunes and finally seeing where you are and who you've been dancing with for the last 6 hours! Damn, why isn't it summer anymore?

One strange side effect I've noticed in swim and a few others is what I call poiesis - a tendency towards the poetic.I've had many nights where I've been unable to speak in anything other than rhyming couplets! Fun for a while, but after a while you just want to have a normal conversation! One poor girl I met had this coupled with a compulsion to talk about poo - highly amusing, but it seriously did her head in! It definitely does something wonderful to the language circuits sometimes. Mind you there've been times when I've been a blathering idiot who can't string a sentence together to save my life...

Which brings me neatly to timing. Ime E and shrooms(bear in mind I'm talking about Liberty Caps- U.S. shrooms may be different) take roughly the same time to come on, so if you're starting from ground state, dropping at the same time isn't advised. By the same token, if you don't leave enough time between doses of shrooms later on, they tend to gang up, creep up behind you and go BOO!, leaving you a bit more battered than expected and needing many pats on the head and generally looking after!

I'm sure it doesn't need saying, but go easy on the booze, at least until you're somewhere you don't have to move from for a while, then go for your life! I'd heartily recommend a bath when you get back as well - kicks things back in nicely! A bit of speed can be a nice addition to the cocktail - turn the hippy flip into S.E.M.tex! It can help bring a bit of clarity and focus to proceedings if you're worried about getting too messy! The only occasion the Mouse had a bad time on this combo is when he spiked himself with GHB - he was drunk, and thought it was gin , so it serves him right for minesweeping when he should know better!

Also, a good meal beforehand is always a good idea - always carbload before a night out! - as is stocking up on B vits etc for a couple of days before and after, not to mention 5htp, if you can find it, for the comedown and a couple of days after(wouldn't recommend preloading though! Very messy ime!)

In short, if you fancy being a horny, naughty 2 year old who dances like a dervish and speaks in rhymes, then this is definitely for you! Sold yet? I know I am - I've just made myself want to go out to play, and I can't! Ah, well, Jeff Mills and Paula Temple in a fortnight...

Have a kicking weekend, and have a fat dance for me..!

[Dr. Shadow]

I did it once but didnt feel the mushrooms only the e. But when the e
didnt work anymore then the mushrooms begin to work. dont like it

[betty_bupe]

Wow, sounds like an amazing experience. I hate drinking while on
E- it grounds the whole mystical part, and makes me incredibly nauseous.



GHB sucks....I drank a vial at a rave one time, and woke up to my
panicked x-boyfriend slapping me and dumping water on my face- turns
out, he thought I was dead. I must have taken too much...but it
was such a small vial...The only other time I took G, I woke up on a
filthy hostel floor, in a pool of my own drool...Not very pretty..



Thanks for all the good info, MickleMouse...



Cheers,

luv Betty

[turnitaround]

i always drink wen i am takin x, it makes the experience last far longer and prevents a come up, which i hate

[Micklemouse]

Be careful with alcohol and mdma - the combination can
put a massive strain on your liver and kidneys, and
lead to serious dehydration. Keep topped up on water -
approx 0.5 litre (a pint-ish per hour) is recommended.

That aside, alcohol can certainly extend the session,
especially later on in the night. Too much too soon
just gets ridiculously messy ime, and isn't fun or
amusing to watch, but post club piss ups are great!

Just be careful, kittlings...

[Maxamillion]

I love to Hippy Flip.....this is one of the best combos I have experienced. I highly recomend this combination to all.


I always drink on x...well, I always drink (.)....but I really put on a clinic when I roll. Shrooms + X =

[hippie_lain]

Personally I find that taking round 2 grams of shrooms wait an hour and then take an E pill. More intense than taking the E first but I think its Synergy is way better!

[fletch]

isnt drinking (in assuming your talking about booze) while on e dangerous? or drinking while on any chemical drug?

[Maxamillion]

I'm sure it is "safer" not to drink on any chemical, but I have never had a problem with X mixed w/ booze. I don't sit around an take shots of PGA or anything. If you are dancing or sweating a lot it probably would not be a good combo....but just chilling out it has been good to me.

[shneddi]

hippie fliping is fun , but i would liken it to lsd. totaly different to shrooms or e on there own

[billyloner]

mickelmouse, that has gotta be the best explanation of an experience ive ever read! youve totally sold me on trying this too!





also, i agree with betty, i dont like drinking alcohol either before or during an e experience. it does make the body high more pronounced, but it diminishes the amazement and the spirituality, i find.

[PYITE]

i find mushrooms and mdma to be pretty much a waste of good mushrooms,
you get all the mindfuck of the mushrooms without any of the euphoria
(mdma overpowers it)

[Dualpower]

Does E counteract mushroom nausea effects?