Concerns

[blaindugan]

swim consumed 4 25 mg adderals throughout last thursday (took them the normal way) . In combinations with cold meds, vitamens, and some ibprofen.(swim thought they were getting sick)
swim hated everything about adderall and had a very fast heart beat.
thur- paranoid, fast heartbeat, irregular cramping feeling in my chest.
fri- still expierencing cramping ( its not quite pain its more of a discomfort)
sat- wake up feel normal ,1 hour later the cramping or discomfort returns for the rest of the day
sun- feel normal all day- cramping or discomfort in chest returns around 8-9 pm, around 10:30 pm while swim's was lieing in bed swim felt actualy chest pain with every breath for 10 or so minutes
mon- swim hasnt had any cramping yet today
THE chest discomfort or cramping is at the center of my chest like right were u cant feel your rib cage anymore or in that area.


please give swim some advice, recomendations, etc. anything you can share share to tell the truth swim has never been intimitaded by drugs but now is fearing heart problems when swim is only 16

[Nero532]

its funny how if you worry things such as your heart beating to fast it just makes it go faster.

I seriously doubt its is anything heart related

What you describe actually reminds me of when I had a sponanious nemothorax, or in english a partially collaped lung. The waking up fine and symptoms appearing later escpecially. This will naturally heal over some period of time (I think the lung reinflates around 3% a day, unless it is a large collapse which is not what your describing). Taking motrin can help with the discomfort and might be benificial, i dont remember. This has a reasonable chance of reoccurring months down the road several more times (reocurring spontanious nemothorax). If it does they may ask you if you want things such as tubes and removing of blebs, I dont recommend this unless there is no alternative. If the problem is a partially collapsed lung doctors will rarely reconize it. My doctor thought it was a pulled muscle and recommended physical therapy which was outright refused by me, then they thought it was inflamation of the sternum (ah that answers the motrin bit for me). Later on when seeing a heart speciallist (still trying to figure it out) the intelligent doctor noticed the partially collaped lung when taking a chest sonogram of my heart. He then had us go to a pulmanary speciallist (I think it shows up on X-rays for a short while after it happens (it heals)). I was around your age. Oh and you say it hasnt done it yet today, I found that few sprints...or jumping jaxs had a good chance of bringing the pain back (if you feel like trying to self diagnose).

So yeah thats my medical opinion on a possibilty to look into that will be more than likely overlooked by a doctor.

I dont have much respect for doctors...

Oh and if im right please post back, it would give me a warm tingly god like feeling...yeah i would still be interested if its not

[amanda_joy555]

Originally Posted by blaindugan

swim consumed 4 25 mg adderals throughout last thursday (took them the normal way) . In combinations with cold meds, vitamens, and some ibprofen.(swim thought they were getting sick)
swim hated everything about adderall and had a very fast heart beat.
thur- paranoid, fast heartbeat, irregular cramping feeling in my chest.

Swim guesses swiy felt the negative effects of taking too much stimulant in too short of a time.

Don't worry, swim believes swiy will be fine as long as swiy takes adderall in smaller doses at first and eventually 4 25 mg doses wouldn't have such an ill effect!

p.s. after consuming only 2 25's for 3 days with no or little sleep, Swim actually had a friend rush her to the e.r. because she felt she was having a heart attack! (and was very paranoid) Doctors gave swim anti-anxiety meds (ativan) intraveinously and she felt better after a few days. She took a drug holiday and felt like herself after a week !

[Nacumen]

Wow, SWIM's never taken 100mg of Adderall, nor would he ever consider it. That was ... absolutely reckless.

Were the 100mg swallowed at the same time or taken after waiting before redosing?

SWIM would go to a doctor and complain of heart problems if the same thing happened to him. SWIM believes that it's a bad idea to mention that it was caused by Adderall. Maybe SWIY could lie and say that SWIY took two No-Doz pills (400 mg caffeine) in order to stay awake for some reason or another and that the conditions SWIY described were caused by that. If SWIY tells him that he took 100mg of Adderall, SWIY isbasically telling him that SWIY should've been hospitalized because he took so much speed. The only thing left for the doctor to do then is to tell SWIY's parents and have them send SWIY to rehab.

[amanda_joy555]

Originally Posted by Nacumen

Wow, SWIM's never taken 100mg of Adderall, nor would he ever consider it. That was ... absolutely reckless.

SWIM would go to a doctor and complain of heart problems if the same thing happened to him. SWIM believes that it's a bad idea to mention that it was caused by Adderall. Maybe SWIY could lie and say that SWIY took two No-Doz pills (400 mg caffeine) in order to stay awake for some reason or another and that the conditions SWIY described were caused by that. If SWIY tells him that he took 100mg of Adderall, SWIY isbasically telling him that SWIY should've been hospitalized because he took so much speed. The only thing left for the doctor to do then is to tell SWIY's parents and have them send SWIY to rehab.

swim does agree, that it was reckless to have taken 100 mgs

But swim would have to disagree with swiy about 'fibbing' to swiys doctor. In a life threatening situation swiy should never lie/leave out parts/alter the truth. Deal with the repurcussions later...let the doctor save swiys life for now. Often it is imperative the medical team knows exactly what has been consumed in order to know the quickest and best approach to helping a victim of drug overdose (or whatever else is the matter)

Caffeine and Amphetamine are too different. The treatment for an overdose could be completely different. Other medications taken during the day could also have a different effect with caffeine vs. adderall (one example swim can think of off the top of swims head is calcium carbonate...found in common otc acid reducers).

Swim completely agree that this was very careless...100mg of adderall is an extremely high dose even for a high tolerance. Swim has taken adderall for 1 & 1/2 years and 60mg XR makes swims heart race, and swims very paranoid and can't concentrate

Hope this helps!

[ISeeShadowPeople]

Looking around at the way that everyone "gasps" when a mention of a 100mg dosage of Adderall is mentioned amazes me. SWIM has probably ate atleast 300 in just the last two days.. SWIM's regular doses are usually between 80 and 120, and that's not even in the XR capsule form. He crushes up 80 to 120 mgs worth of XR beads and thens let them absorb under the tongue.

I don't understand all this talk about being careless and OD'n on 100 mgs. People need to relax, all of that type of shit is in your head. If you start to think that you're about to panic, then guess what? You're probably going to panic over just the thought of you possibly begining to panic.

I don't see why someone ( no offense ) would be so worried that they would even need to post a thread like this. You post a thread FIVE days after the entire experience? The adderall is already out of your system... No offense to you at all - but you need to just calm down and relax.. Getting this excited over the fact that you're stomach hurting is f-cking stupid.

No offense again.

And why are you people scaring the hell out of this 16 year old boy. The kid has no reason to go to a hospital, he has no reason at all. H

ey blaindugan, just calm down buddy.. everything's fine with you, you ain't going to die. Heart problems at 16? Come on now, seriously..

I'm not trying to disrespect you, but this entire thread has been dramatized into a big issue when the only thing that was wrong was that you woke up with a stomach ache.

That's a side effect of Adderall, that's all. It's not a side effect of a overdose, that's for damn sure..

Swim has taken adderall for 1 & 1/2 years and 60mg XR makes swims heart race, and swims very paranoid and can't concentrate

I'm guessing SWIM or SWIY or SWAMP or whoever is prescribed to these because he has ADD or ADHD. I'm only asking because you said you can't concentrate on it, which doesn't really make since.

Anyways, no disrespect lambugan.. just chill tho man, seriously..

[ISeeShadowPeople]

s. after consuming only 2 25's for 3 days with no or little sleep, Swim actually had a friend rush her to the e.r. because she felt she was having a heart attack! (and was very paranoid) Doctors gave swim anti-anxiety meds (ativan) intraveinously and she felt better after a few days. She took a drug holiday and felt like herself after a week !

That story amazes me, and not in the way the story of Jesus amazed the town folk.

[Nacumen]

If the guy was honestly concerned about heart problems, he should've gone to the doctor to calm his fears.

I suggested saying that caffeine was the cause, because the adderall would've already been gone anyway (the overdose was long over when I replied), and the doctor would've checked the condition that the heart was in. He wouldn't have checked for a specific adderall-induced heart condition, because when you check the heart, it all gets checked. Hell, he wouldn't have to have even mentioned caffeine, but that's what SWIM would've done personally.

[amanda_joy555]

[quote=ISeeShadowPeople;278125]Looking around at the way that everyone "gasps" when a mention of a 100mg dosage of Adderall is mentioned amazes me. SWIM has probably ate atleast 300 in just the last two days.. SWIM's regular doses are usually between 80 and 120, and that's not even in the XR capsule form. He crushes up 80 to 120 mgs worth of XR beads and thens let them absorb under the tongue./quote]

No offense man, no offense.....

haha just had to get that out of swim

swiy's story amazes me...kind of like Kevin Trudeau's "Natural Cures" Infomercial

But, just in case swiy is being honest, god help swiy...120 mg Adderall every day...and swiy STILL has to crush the adderall up and let it absorb under swiy's tongue to feel an effect? Has swiy considered maybe swiy has a problem?

no offense man, no offense

[amanda_joy555]

Originally Posted by Nacumen

If the guy was honestly concerned about heart problems, he should've gone to the doctor to calm his fears.

Swim agrees...if swiy feels like they are having a heart attack...go to the hospital immediately...possible adverse (rare) side effects include:

information was obtained from www.whatmeds.com:

"Adverse Reactions
Amphetamines may cause the following reactions:

1. Heart palpitations, tachycardia (racing heart), elevation of blood pressure. There have been isolated reports of heart disease associated with chronic amphetamine use. "

A few reports of sudden death have occurred in adolescents due to heart attacks (without any known heart damage/deficiency prior to the death). Note: these are rare and misunderstood at this time.

Although swim has only taken Adderall 1.5 yrs, she still feels scared when she feels her heart racing when she takes two 30mg Adderall XRs instead of one 30mg XR. Overall swim is very healthy and athletic. Swim runs daily, but she feels numb in weird places (like her left big toe and left arm) and wakes up in cold sweats...always about a few days after she 'felt the need' to take two adderall 30 mgs/day instead of her prescribed 1.

Also, swim made her doctor give her a EKG when she had a panic attack after o.d.ing on adderall, and he said compared to her test a year ago she had 'marked' differences b/w the two.

Swim doesn't want to scare anyone, but swim feels like it should be her responsibility to let swiy know that amphetamines can and will mess up your cardiovascular health. Yes, swim drank occassionally, and yes swim smoked at least 3-5 cigs a day on the weekends. AND yes swim wants anyone else reading this to not make the same mistakes....adderall is fun...just don't abuse it for a year and a half--like some of swius have

[ISeeShadowPeople]

The boy is 16 though, I don't even think he even mentioned anything about a heart attack or anything like that. He said his chest hurt, and that could be any reason in the world. I just think the whole thread has been really made out to be a really big deal, when all the kid did was eat 100 mgs of speed.

But, just in case swiy is being honest, god help swiy...120 mg Adderall every day...and swiy STILL has to crush the adderall up and let it absorb under swiy's tongue to feel an effect? Has swiy considered maybe swiy has a problem?

SWIM doesn't eat Adderall on a every day basis. Before SWIM came back home to his parents house, he only ate Adderall about ten times a year. When SWIM does decide to do Adderall though, he will do it for days on end. So has SWIM been eating Adderall on a day to day basis these past two weeks? Yes, because SWIM has nothing else to do but lay around and enjoy a drug that makes him feel nice.

Does SWIM think he has a problem? Well, if the read my "Dear Journal, I created a world today" thread - the answer to that is obvious. Yes, I do have a problem. I get carried away with the drug the same way people do with cocaine or any other stimulant, mostly they get carried way because they continue to use the drug over and over in order to avoid that come down.

Am I addicted to the substance? I don't know. I'm addicted to the fact that if I know the substance is in the house, then yes, I'm going to find someway or the other to get the drug and use it. But if there isn't anymore of the drug left, then I may be depressed for a day or two as my brain brings itself back to a normal state chemically, but I've never went out and sought out the drug.

I haven't ever bought a Adderall or speed pill in my life. It's either around, or it's not. So I have a problem, but i'm not addicted.

Hopefully that made sense.. i'm going to go swim. I mean swim is going to... ugh.. swim's going to go drop about 120 worth of powder under his tongue..

if i get a headache i'll be sure to come to the forum and right a thread about it. if my head hurts, i may have brain damage..

haha.. swim's such a smartass..

[Nero532]

well in the absence of irrefutable evidence to the contrary i proclaim myself God... i only capitalized god because i was referring to myself

[Heretic.Ape.]

Edit: fair point, must be having delusions of grandeur, lol.

[cyndi]

Whoa Nelly, 16? Where did you get that? Are swimmers not supposed to be at least 18? If he was that young, probably afraid to tell parents, although that would have been the right thing to do not just go board surfing. As a mom of teens that just scared me, no disrespect intended.

[aaronitotheburrito]

sickness plus adderall isnt fun
swim took one this morning before work.
he works at a detail shop
it rained on him all day he felt great throughout the day but when it wore off he felt kind of sick he had a headache.. he then proceeded to snort about 35 or 40 mgs of the xr in fine powder
a friend snorted one but left a bit on accident and swim snorted it to

swims headache got worse and he just sat in a chair all night feeling good but bad side effects like his heart feels hot
like when he takes breaths its hot
heart burn?
and hes sweating to much.. he normally doesnt do that unless hes in the heat on these things

swim is probably starting his comedown right now but he doesnt know lol