Effects - how long should SWIM wait for ketamine tolerance to disappear?

[icantremembermylegs]

This guy i know had his first experience with KET last weekend, (friday 8th) he must have sniffed about 100mg, he then lay down and all was goooood (numb, disconnected, like a solitary floating entity in an infinity of pitch black nothingness)

however the following monday, (11th) he had about the same amount again and it wasnt very good atall.. he decided to wait a while, and sniffed about twice the original amount the following friday (15th) and didnt feel atall numb, just a bit relaxed and disconnected.. (obviously didnt wait long enough)

he then had about 200mg the following morning and again was disappointed

he'd like to know how long he should wait for his tolerance to return to zero
(will it ever return to how it was before the first time?)
so that he can have another trip like his first if not better (more mg)

He is very greatful for any help/assistance (he is a K n00b)

[enquirewithin]

A week or so would remove much tolerance. Two weeks would be better. Perhaps it will never be as strong as the first time!

[Nose Dive]

Originally Posted by enquirewithin

Perhaps it will never be as strong as the first time!

The first time always has that WOW! factor as swiy dosen't know what to expect and can't really be explained too well.
But swIm has had better times than his first, keep on trucking, I say!

[sleedje]

Swim has never been able to fully experience an OBE like swim's first Ketamine breakthrough, which was via insufflation. However, moving to IM was amazing and then IV delivered an entirely different and altogether stranger experience....one of unbridled smearing across the universe.

Do swiy a favour and read "Ketamine, Dreams, and Realities" by Karl Jansen. Swim's tolerance has persisted over a two year dry period. Swim developed a mammoth tolerance after a 10 month binge of daily IV use...Swim came into money and spent wisely...unfortunately the tolerance is daunting. Jansen also describes a nearly universal experience of infinite tolerance (the correct term escapes me) Basically you never get your cherry back. However, if Swim remembers correctly, beta blockers were being considered as a potential step in reversing ketamine tolerance. Forgive any errors...it's been awhile and as usual Swim loaned his book never to get it back.

[VitaminK22]

Swim doesnt think this was caused by tolerence, in swims experence 100mg isnt alot at all, but for a first experence it is enough to give you a mind blowing experience because you dont think that such a substance could do what it does to you, so when you no the potential of what ketamine can do, you will be expecting to get the same feeling as the first time you take it, when actually you may not get that first feeling ever again with ketamine, but the K-hole goes alot deeper than you think.
Swim remembers his first experience, he only had about 200mg, sniffed, considering he can now get through up to 2 grams in a night, he has never had an experience like the first one.

Swim doesnt think you can get 3 day tolerence from only 100mg or 5 day tolerence from 200mg, but i may be wrong, its not for me to decide your tolerence levels.
If swiy wants to start takin ketamine on a regular basis i would suggest you leave a 2 week gap in between each session. The less you have, the more fun a session will be when it comes.
Swim has ketamine about once a month but when he is on a session he has as much as he can take/afford.

[Niteflights]

One thing is for sure, even with an almost infinite tolerance to pure ketamine (SWIM's primate competed for the Guinness world record one fine spring) a combined dose with 2cb will bring upon a state that will probably eclipse any drug experience you have ever had. Gorgeous 4+++ inoperability make sure you are not in public and a trip sitter is highly advised. You will be radio communicating with yourself across the room across time-space.

Of course combining 5meo-dmt with ketamine is akin to witnessing the creation of the universe.

SWIMs primate finds that combining k with a helper molecule tends to create the intensity and quality of experience much more usable then ketamine alone.

Ketamine is a wonderful adjunct to MDMA. Several reports have surfaced indicating that a very small (~25mg) dose of ketamine the morning after will completely alleviate MDMA hangovers, even for several days. Of course the antioxidant protective regimen and strict moderation should be closely adhered to with all MDMA primate use.

safe flying,
nite