40 mg of ritalin with no effect?

[smokeymcbongwater]

ok, well swim ingested what he thinks to be 40 mg of ritalin today (one pinkish? capsule with the 40 R on it) by means of putting the beads on his tongue and washing it down with water. swim ingested it at about 9:15 at a party, its now 11:56 and swim's home, swim feels normal, except he's had about three rushes of dizziness, like it felt as if swim was moving when he actaully wasn't. but he felt nothing at the party, he was sociable, but just as much as always. Now he feels a slight difference in his head, but not painful at all, it could be because he is tired. But swim is pretty sure he could sleep right now.

My question is, was swim's method of ingestion possibly inefficient? because 40 mg should be enough, also swim has never taken ritalin before, but has taken concerta, and adderal. SWIM parachuted 30 mg of adderal and definately felt it, at the peak, he was extremely talkative, jittery, and felt good. Concerta left swim with a subtle uplift in mood. So why wouldn't swim feel 40 mg of ritalin?

[geophagus]

Originally Posted by smokeymcbongwater

So why wouldn't swim feel 40 mg of ritalin?

Good question.

Perhaps SWIY ingested foods or drinks that were high in acidity like tomato sauces, or perhaps even sodas containing citric acid, etc., prior to taking the Ritalin?

From what SWIM understands, foods that have a high acid content can reduce the absorption of certain stimulant drugs like Ritalin. Food for thought.

[smokeymcbongwater]

well for some reason as i was writing swim felt the effects, its 11 am and swim fell asleep at 6 30, but swim didnt feel speedy or anything, also swim cleaned his whole house

[ThePopeIsMyPal]

prehaps u could crush the beads next time so that they arnt all extended relesed

[psycho joe]

40mg would do sweet fuck all, especially ingested, swim found that the only way to really feel a high off ritalin is to shoot it, shoot 80-120mgs is a relativly decent high, but eating the stuff wont really do much for swiy, swiy might get all twitchy/sweaty and talk a bit of bullshit for an hour or so, thats about it though, if swiy is REALLY keen on eating it, try round 150mg at the very least to feel anything

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[tayo]

that's probably ridiculous. don't do that^^^^. go somewhere and read up on dosages. the highest dosage per day in adults is something like 60mg.

[psycho joe]

bullshit, swim is talking from experience, "probably ridiculous" -

highest dosage per day is 60mg for adults you say...

swim was prescibed it as a child and into early teens, swims daily dossage at 11 years old was 60mg

but yeah, go read up on it

[tayo]

well he cleaned his whole house and was up until 6:30am... seems like he doesn't need to up the dose, it's probably not a good idea to recommend 150mg orally to someone inexperienced and asking questions about it, that's all. i'm sorry to hear that at age 11 you were dosed that high.

[psycho joe]

Originally Posted by tayo

well he cleaned his whole house and was up until 6:30am... seems like he doesn't need to up the dose, it's probably not a good idea to recommend 150mg orally to someone inexperienced and asking questions about it, that's all. i'm sorry to hear that at age 11 you were dosed that high.

what the fuck are you sorry for? you a doctor or something? high dosage? fuck NO, thats average!

150mg orally for first time is bang on imo, not too little and not too much,

[tayo]

is that not on the higher end of the 11 year old spectrum, did swiy experience no side effects? if this person happens to be 4 '11 and 60 lbs they very well could drop dead from 150mg, and if they don't know they have heart problems in their family they could have a heart attack, or even w/o heart issues if they're small. so even saving some random person's life seems like the thing to do. and yeah i just might be a doctor.

here's the dosage from medscape

take 1 tablet (5 mg) by oral route 3 times per day
take 2 tablets (10 mg) by oral route 3 times per day
take 1 tablet (5 mg) by oral route 2 times per day
take 2 tablets (10 mg) by oral route 2 times per day
take 1 tablet (5 mg) by oral route 2 times per day before meals
take 1 tablet (5 mg) by oral route 3 times per day before meals
take 2 tablets (10 mg) by oral route 2 times per day before meals
take 2 tablets (10 mg) by oral route 3 times per day before meals
take 1 tablet (10 mg) by oral route 3 times per day
take 2 tablets (20 mg) by oral route 3 times per day
take 1 tablet (10 mg) by oral route 2 times per day
take 2 tablets (20 mg) by oral route 2 times per day
take 1 tablet (10 mg) by oral route 2 times per day before meals
take 1 tablet (10 mg) by oral route 3 times per day before meals
take 2 tablets (20 mg) by oral route 2 times per day before meals
take 2 tablets (20 mg) by oral route 3 times per day before meals
take 1 tablet (20 mg) by oral route 3 times per day
take 1 tablet (20 mg) by oral route 2 times per day
take 1 tablet (20 mg) by oral route 2 times per day before meals
take 1 tablet (20 mg) by oral route 3 times per day before meals

the 60mg is spaced out throught the day too. so we'll say it's not average. and here's stuff on the risk for people with pre-existing conditions... http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methylphen_wcp.htm

[Heretic.Ape.]

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[eltimmy]

>150mg orally for first time is bang on imo, not too little and not too much,

SILENCE.Individual tolerance to psychostimulants varies widely, and toxic reactions to methylphenidate have been reported at as low as 5 milligrams orally.

You need to stop recommending dangerous activity to posters on this board ... or leave. Yes, leave.

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	nice. thanks.
	individual tolerance varies widely, so why not 150 mg then? some ppl might find this underated even!

[merc11292]

I dint notice anyone mentioning snorting ritalin, maybe a missed it but if not, crush the little CR beads up and snort the powder, swim had 30mg Cr's and just started with 30mg's snorted, then snorted another cap every 15 mins until up to 90mg's swim liked it real spead up and wut not. Comedown was a pain tho swim used .50mg xanax for the comedown the next time it did the job, anytype of low dose benzo would prolly ease the comedown

keep in mind it makes you sweat alot, that was the biggest hassle for swim

[msimm]

Wow. That 150 MG suggestion is off the rack. A friend of mine used to have a pretty serious habit. I don't think he'd suggest more then 40 MG of instant release on a first go. 150 is like begging for a heart problem or something tragic.

I was going to start a separate thread but since I see this thread kind of covers it: my friend, who did used to have a serious habit, abused Ritalin recreationally for quite a while. He would use Soma to break the high and get some sleep before work. At his peak he was having minor visuals during the day. Creativity was spiked and he'd see art work everywhere. Wrote a lot too. But sexual fantasies were the predominate component so much of this energy wasn't exactly put to broad use.

Anyway eventually the Ritalin started producing much heavier body load and next to no euphoria. He was starting to seriously worry about having a heart attack and was still using because the cravings were so strong (like cigarettes, but with a *serious* pleasure component that even after it stopped was still pulling at him).

Years later he had some things going on and decided that it had been long enough he could try using it again, ideally limiting his intake or access (he found it much harder to obtain).

When he took it again (probably 5 or 6 years later without any habits in the passing years) it produced no euphoria. He increased the dose and managed to increase his heart rate, but nothing more. Plugging, snorting and eating all produced the same lack of results.

He found this strange. The Ritalin he'd used was Novitris (sp) brand, clearly marked and in sealed/unexpired blister packs.

Any thoughts on why this might have happened? It produced none of the pleasure or even the focused attention it had once produced. In fact it was a lot like towards the end of his last experience where it just seemed to be hard on his body.

I'd love to hear any feedback if anyone has an idea or nows someone who's has a similar experience.

FWIW, his experience with benzo and Ritalin would be that it would help take the edge off but not exactly slow the drug. I'm not sure if Soma/carisoprodol is recommended but it would take him from somewhere near peak and allow him to sleep a full night. He almost always used the two in combo.

[ill_repute]

My 11 year old son takes 10mg...and the doc was a little hesitant about uping him from 5mgs in the first place.

[msimm]

I think at a certain age there is much less potential for abuse. Actually I think it's quite a good drug if you don't abuse it. There's a pretty good chance I fit the profile perfectly when I was young. Restless, highly creative and unable to focus. I was bounced into a special learn program and bounced back out for being disruptive (apparently I didn't need it that bad).

I hope it helps your son. I'm sure it's one of the most over prescribed drugs today, but I also think there are a lot of kids who do benefit from it.