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Old 15-06-2007, 18:35
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Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

Can it be smoked?
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Old 15-06-2007, 18:43
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Re: Can it be smoked?

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Can it be smoked?
Please be more clear when posting. what exactly? Are swiy refering to erythroxylum coca leaves??
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Old 15-06-2007, 20:00
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Re: Can it be smoked?

there are reports of coca leaves being smoked in shamanistic ceremonies in the Amazon basin, however this is probably purely ritual act, as smoking or vaporizing coca leaves has no psychoactivity. concentrations of active alkaloids are low and smoking just doesn't release like this.
however, an extremely crude freebased extract of coca leaves, a form of vegetable leaf paste left over from cocaine extraction procedures called "bazuco", extremely contaminated with solvent, is smoked by workers of illegal cocaine extraction facilities. extremely unhealthy, and with effects comparable to weak freebase.

but simple leaves, no, in swim's experience.

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Old 17-06-2007, 13:50
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

swim's friend tried it and said they felt a buzz from something, there are alot of alkaloids in cocaine though, the tropane alkaloids, like cocaine and atropine, if smoked in a joint for instance.. it is possible that some of the cocaine could be vaporized for some effect, definitely not more than chewing an equal amount of leaf, though.
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Old 17-06-2007, 15:59
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

swim never felt anything from smoked leaves, smoked or vaporized.
swim thinks that if this mode of use was really effective it would be more widespread, considering how far back in time coca use goes.
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Old 17-06-2007, 22:30
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

yeah, swim's friend said "a very weak buzz" from a joint, completely ineffective, this was from coca tea bags
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Old 18-06-2007, 01:05
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

well they don't contain much cocaine by the leaf anyway.
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Old 18-06-2007, 01:22
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

2-8mg a gram, which percent is between .02% to .08%, swim do math right?
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Old 18-06-2007, 08:34
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

most commercial leaves would be in the lower end of that fork though.
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Old 23-07-2007, 23:59
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

SWIM has tried smoking pulverized Coca leaves from a teabag, but experienced nothing but teary eyes, dizinness and a coughing fit. One would achieve the same effect by inhaling burnt cellulose.
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Old 01-01-2008, 12:52
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

found this, thought it might bring a few smiles about.

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Old 10-03-2008, 19:20
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

i am going to try and find the actual site but i seem to remember there being a site that advised against vaporizing (volcano specific) coca

the only times have tried smoking coca it was in conjunction with another method of administration but it always seemed to add something to what i already held

has everyones tests been with more than one way of taking it at a time?
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Old 26-03-2008, 18:46
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

Swim had another neat experiment... possibly a placebo, but Swim thinks their is real effects...

Swim took (7) 1 gram tea bags and rolled them into 7 individual joints. Both Swim and his friends smoked these while jamming and strongly believe swi(us) felt the effects. Swim agrees and knows that their is a very low concentration of cocaine, but believes the other alkaloids played a role. Swim would compare it to a few cups of coca tea. He has done this on a few occasions in replacement of tobacco.

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Old 23-09-2009, 02:01
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Smoking plain coca powder

Anyone tried this and had good results?
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Old 23-09-2009, 08:19
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

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leaves or leaf powder, no result. alakloidal concentrations are too low.

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Old 23-09-2009, 19:01
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

SWIM rolled up a doobie with coca powder and a touch of baking soda and definitely felt some mild effects.
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Old 24-09-2009, 08:42
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

well, mild in the sense that inhaling smoked material does produce an form of reactions.
really, the low alkaloid concentrations in leaves, plus combustion mechanism, make it highly unlikely that much would make it to the blood stream that way.

a crude extraction would work, a vapourization a better path, but not imo rolling up coca leaf powder and smoking it. usually when such a simple mode of use has not developped somewhere traditionnally, it's highly likely that it doesn't work- Salvia divinorum being one hell of an exception to this.
as previously mentioned, smoking coca is mentioned in ethnological litterature, in the Amazon basin, but this is mostly for symbolic / ritualistic purposes.

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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

It works to a degree A waterpipe does the trick, especially if the macerated leaf is lightly precooked with water and a lil Bicarb.

It isn't gonna blow your head off, but it's a nice mllow addition to your favorite bowl
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

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found this, thought it might bring a few smiles about.

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Nice find !

Cocarettes ...

If one let drop crude coca extract on a cigarette, then let it dry on a heater, the cigarette is really good to smoke, very sweet, and the effect is noticeable !
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

As a grower of organic pipe tobacco for self consumption, Badger accidentally discovered that a crude concentrated coca extract sprayed onto curing tobacco not only gives the finished product a nice taste and aroma(someone asked if Weasel was smoking weed again), but gives a slight numbing effect. The numbing effect is brief but I would imagine indicates a low level of absorption, according to Badger's report.
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

Some guy on the Earth, ran out of tobacco, having some tea, the guy gave them a shot. It was horrible for the first few, but then appreciating the flavour the guy smoked a few more. Absolutely no stimulation. Not even close to the mild stimulation from chewing teabags. Why smoke it then? because the guy can
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

I bought a pound of Coca tea, Full Coca leaves, the tea was nice but smoking a few leaves definitely got me a buzz.... I got mine from Peru

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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

placebo (more than likely) or little/no cocaine tolerance, perhaps it is just lack of oxygen. coca leaves are near ineffective when smoked. When agents burn acres of coca leaves they do not get a buzz so why would burning a bowl or cigar get you a buzz?
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Re: Can Coca Leaves Be Smoked?

I think they can!
Gonna try mixing 10 gr of coca tea with a tablespoon of baking soda into 100 ml of high grade ethanol
Mix well and filter well though piece of shirt and then through coffee filter.
Repeat with another 100 ml of alcohol and squeeze all the juice out of the leaves.
Then take those 200 and evaporate till you get a really gummy oily substance. Take 2 gr of coca leaf and mix with that paste.
Let it evaporate it under a heat lamp

Now take that dry shit and grind it up, mix with some weed, roll up, enjoy
tell me about that

bls1987 added 1 Minutes and 39 Seconds later...

wonder why people dont make enhanced extract like that one

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smoking coca extract

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Can it be smoked?


The fella I told you about had success at smoking a quick crude extract.
He said:
"Put 20 gr of leafs into a cup and enough alcohol to cover them. Add one teaspoon of cooked baking soda (sodium carbonate) and the stir well.

Place the cup in the freezer for 2 hours.

Pour it all through a metallic filter, those for tea, and then into a coffee filter placed inside another cup, squeeze the liquid out of the filter.

Place this 2nd cup that contains the the cocaine oil inside a pot with boiling water so that the alcohol evaporates quickly.

When the oil is 80% evaporated, either:
thrown in 2 joints worth of pot, mix well and let dry it good
(get stoned and cracked up)
or
dry it completely, scrape it all,
pour two tablespoons of water+big pinch of baking soda
and filter it through a coffee filter, leaving the paste inside the filter and discarding the water
Pour more water to wash it. Let dry good.

either way, the effects are quite much like those of smoking crack, though cocaine is just one in a hundred of substances in there..

The joint with the coca oil is quite trippy too. euphoric and warm, a little too stonedy though, cause of the pot.


And then you could continue the process and make pure coca base...

the guy used 60 teabags, after getting the oil, he then took the paste and scrapped it on the cup... he poured like 50 ml of water and 20 ml of a non polar solvent such as benzene (lighter fluid)
Mix the solution well and use a syringe to suck it up in it.
You can see the two little layers, of water on the bottom and naphtha on the top.
Pour off the water and discard it.
Put a solution of 50 ml water and 3 drops of 10% muriatic acid into the syringe .
Mix well.
Pour off water and discard naphtha this time.
Evaporate the water and scrap and collect the remaining dried orange paste.
Dry it completely, scrape it all,
pour two tablespoons of water+big pinch of baking soda
and filter it through a coffee filter, leaving the paste inside the filter and discarding the water.
Pour more water to wash it. Extract water from it and let dry with heat.
Says he got like 3gr of raw paste from 50 gr of leafs. Then those 3 gr could be made into 1 gr of pure cocaine hlc very easily..

Some pics attached...

The monk said he was gonna try it with 400gr and do it perfectly this time
He says he'll continue this by following these steps:
After getting 6 gr of paste from 400 of leaf, pour enough water to dissolve the paste and start adding pinches of baking soda slowly to the solution while mixing. Mix and keep adding slowly till no more changes can be seen.
Place the remaining paste into a little cup with a little alcohol, so that the paste dissolves.
Place in freezer for 2 hrs. Alkaloids precipitate out of the alcohol, filter it all through a coffee filter into a little shallow dish. Evaporate with heat.
Pure Cocaine Base, that'd be best crack ever if swim is not wrong..
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