legal buds, hawaiian gold bud, Dutch haze buds, Blueberry herbal hydro buds,

[Alfa]

You can not say anything about these herbs as a whole. Some may be safer than cannabis, while others may be more toxic than tobacco. Who knows. You can only defien that on a case by case basis.

[ZUZUCACA]

SHIT

taste like shit , smells like shit , you could probably get a better buzz off of a couple cigarettes.

[JaWill88]

Originally Posted by ZUZUCACA

SHIT

taste like shit , smells like shit , you could probably get a better buzz off of a couple cigarettes.

swim definately agrees there. swim bought that hawaiian bud shit and it really sucked. swim does get a way bigger buzz smoking a cigarette, or having a dip being that is what swim does, not cigarettes. it tasted aweful, the smoke is nasty, and there was no buzz, no feeling what so ever, nothing at all. and swim remembers the package reading something like " do not operate machinery or drive under the influence of this product" or some shit like that. now thats a load of crap. nicotine would impare one much more than this.... stuff.

[chrisn]

Yeah I was just curious if there have been studies on any in particular, but I doubt it as they are not so commonly used.

[zapatista]

It all a matter of doing some research. All of the "bud" products are bullshit. Be on the lookout for some of the new generation smoking blends, as most of these have apsychoactivity which many have described as marijuana like. These new products are very good for those who cant smoke mj because of drug test or the legal factor. SWIM likes them simply for their unique high.

Z

[x cynic x]

Swim tried legal crap once and hated it. He believes there is no substitute for marijuana besides some synthetic cannabinoids, but to make his point; if people didn't want to go out of there way to get marijuana, there would be virtually no market for it and prohibition would be evidently prevalent and effective. Swim thinks that searching for legal options is the equivalent of conforming to the unjustified set of laws that are being forced upon our good-natured but disinclined citizens.

[kryptik]

don't buy them. swim has done hawaian bud, maui bud, herbal dro, haze (all these herbal by the way)... best ones were the haze and dro... taste isn't as bad as the others either. all of them did nothing to swim. haw bud is hard to roll a joint with, very fluffy, where as haze was sticky and rolled great.

all them herbals really don't do shit to you. big waste of money... if swiy wants a high off some herbs, swim suggests: Kratom, Salvia, Calea, swim hears Chillin XXX is pretty damn strong. read reviews on this site.

as for other highs (herbal) - invest in pills (BZP/meOPP - if it's legal where you live, or non-BZP pills. or invest in seeds, HBW, MG's, etc... do your research and read this site too...

[Mint boi]

Originally Posted by kryptik

as for other highs (herbal) - invest in pills (BZP/meOPP

Herbal... Bzp, MeOPP? riiiggghhhtt!

[kryptik]

lol mint boi, well when swim googled herbal highs, party pills came up and so did BZP, lol... swim doesn't know if bzp is herbal, but swim knows bzp makes her feel good. too bad they are illegal where swim is from.

[Devotchka]

SWIM bought a half ounce of some 'legal buds' about a year ago and what a waste of money that was. The only reason SWIM has used the buds was to mix with real MJ or Spice Gold if SWIM didn't want a full joint of the real stuff. Since SWIM paid for it, SWIM isn't gonna throw it away. But anyways these 'legal buds' aren't worth it if SWIY looking for a high. Try Kratom or Spice Gold. Those are SWIM's favorite legal herbs that actually work.

[sg43]

What is in this "Spice Gold" I've heard allot about it and starting to get interested.

[kryptik]

swim also got interested in spice, spice gold, chillin xxx, and googled... found out whats in them all.. some pretty good shit... swim wonders if drinking it as a tea if same efx could be felt like the ones you get from smoking.

[horse!]

I think all threads that have "legal buds" somewhere in them should get an auto-reply and ban saying that they don't work, legal buds that work have been made illegal but things like lion's tail and san pedro cactus are still mostly legal.

[salviablue]

The term "legal buds" is quite a generalisation and could refer to any number of things.
Legality is only relevant when relating to specific political borders.
The legality of "legal buds" (the meaning of "legal buds" being presumed in this instance being that which is marketed as having inference to a legal substitute to a substance(s) otherwise illegal, and legality pertaining to a specific law of a specific political border(s)), in most legal writ seems to depend on how it is marketed.

E.g. In the USA, the FDA states that they may not be labelled, by reference inferred nor implied, as marijuana alternatives/substitutes.
To be sold for human consumption, the substances, or sources thereof, must be FDA approved for dietary supplementation.(Direct reference to these rulings seems to elude me at the moment, if anyone else could support or refute these statements, it would be most appreciated).

I the UK, most of these substances must be labelled, without inference nor implication to the contrary, not for human consumption.

Although it is probably fair to state that any "legal buds" that "work" have been made illegal, in most political boundaries, and they only tend to become illegal when sold commercially and then demonised or sensationalised by the media (for whatever reason), there are places where these buds are not legal, but whose use or sale are not actively enforced/persued or criminalised by law (Netherlands, Portugal, Mexico, etc.).
There are also in fact "legal buds" that do work, but not neccessarily as the user may expect, especially if expecting marijuana like effects.

I think where the commonly conceived scam with "legal buds" lie, are where they are sold as (or as is commonly thought they are sold as,) cannabis substitutes, usually to look and smell like "the real thing", and the expectation is that of a legal marijuana substitute (legal ofcourse in the places where marijuana is illegal and its use and posession prosecuted), to have similar cannabis like effects.

I have been aware of people that have bought and smoked the "legal buds" as I presume are refered to here, and have been reliably told that in no way do they resemble the effects of cannabis.
However others have reliably reported to me that they have smoked buds, which are legal, at least in the UK, and have given effects not too dissimilar to those of marijuana.

There are also available "legal buds" where its not the ingredient plants that have the cannabis like effects per se, but what is added to them (although said additive will soon be outlawed in the UK).

[godztear]

I just bought 1/2 pound of Blueberry Herbal Hybrid and it came with a small pouch of some shakey stuff called Wild Greens.

At first glance you might think you are in for a real treat. Upon breaking apart the buds you realize that they look like hand rolled balls of grass with some kind of spray on them.

The real test obviously comes from smoking the stuff. Remember these are legal buds, so you are probably not expecting much. As a matter of fact...don't expect too much. The blueberry buds smelt and tasted like blueberries at first. Then it tasted like shrubs covered in maple syrup. It burnt entirely too long in a glass pipe, tasted like cardboard before the end of the bowl, and in a paper it burned too wet to smoke. So now I have a big bag of this stuff that I'm not even sure if I want to smoke anymore, since even the next day it stained my smell and taste like the stuff i was smoking. The buzz if any, is not very noticeable and short lived. I'm not sure if I felt something because I wanted to...or if there was really some sort of buzz there. Definitely not the same as a buzz produced my THC.

I smoked the stuff they sent me a sample of called Wild Greens. It looks like a bag of loose fine chopped up plant matter. It's extremely light and fluffy, and burns pretty good in a rolling paper. It gives you a slight head change of a buzz, again nothing like THC, but maybe if you smoke enough of it, there is the possibility of achieving half of the high of smoking some ditch weed. It has a better after burn smell then the Blueberry, almost a marijuana smell, but it has that same hint of shrub taste.

A real marijuana toker will not be satisfied with either one of these two legal herbs. They have no similar appearance properties to marijuana other then that they are a plant. The buzz is a mild head change at best.

[ianzombie]

Swim really wants to know why people still buy these 'Novelties' when there is an over abundance of legit reviews (i.e. any review not on the site that sell them) that say they are good for nothing?

Swim must hand it to the people behind the advertising if in this day and age they are still able to fool people into believing they are getting a product that will give them anything other than a slightly lighter wallet.

Madness.

[godztear]

Originally Posted by ianzombie

Swim really wants to know why people still buy these 'Novelties' when there is an over abundance of legit reviews (i.e. any review not on the site that sell them) that say they are good for nothing?

Swim must hand it to the people behind the advertising if in this day and age they are still able to fool people into believing they are getting a product that will give them anything other than a slightly lighter wallet.

Madness.

There are plenty of good and bad reviews on the legal smoking herbs. Before purchasing the half pound of the stuff, I researched the plant ingredients and their properties appear to be buzz worthy, not marijuana comparable, but still intriguing. The only reason I bought so much is because I compared price vs weight, and the obvious saving was in the larger quantity, and if It held true, then it would have been well worth it.

The stuff taste awful though after continual use. Like you were smoking grass covered in maple syrup and EXTREMELY harsh.

[godztear]

By the way, I've been emailing the company that I purchased the Blueberry Herbal Hybrid from since I've had it without any response from the company what-so-ever. I even asked them about their solids, since the 'buds' taste like smoking a rope, maybe the solids bypass that stage while being concentrated. Still no response, they must think that I'm just gonna buy some of their solids without thinking.

[ianzombie]

Swim recomends Swiy forget about them, you have learnt a lesson although im surprised people are still buying into this scam after they had been proven to be inactive so many times over so many years.
Cut Swiy's losses and move on, there are plenty of alternatives out there that actually work.

[Alfa]

Do these products contain cannabinoids now? i.e. do they work now or are they still crap?

[ianzombie]

Swim does not believe they have added anything to their recipe, but Swim is basing this opinion on only one person he knows who had some recently.

Swim has a friend who is currently doing a multimedia course and as part of a project they had to make a short film, Swims friend made a small movie based on the day in the life of 2 stoner's. Swims friend needed a bag of weed for the film and they purchased some of these 'Legal Buds' to use as a prop.

This was the first time Swim had ever seen the product in question, while it looked the part it had no effect other than making the room smell like a pot-purri factory.

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by ianzombie

Swim does not believe they have added anything to their recipe, but Swim is basing this opinion on only one person he knows who had some recently.

Swim has a friend who is currently doing a multimedia course and as part of a project they had to make a short film, Swims friend made a small movie based on the day in the life of 2 stoner's. Swims friend needed a bag of weed for the film and they purchased some of these 'Legal Buds' to use as a prop.

This was the first time Swim had ever seen the product in question, while it looked the part it had no effect other than making the room smell like a pot-purri factory.

Then its still the same as always. Looks good, but doesnt work.