Opinions - Permanent trip from LSD?

[trips]

Swim has heard it is possible to go into a permanent trip
Does anyone know anybody that this has happened to
and what are the odds of this
anyother info on permatrips would be appreciated
thanks

[jux]

i suppose that depends on what you mean by "permenant trip". some people get hppd (sp?) or minor visual disturbances after repeated pschycedelic use (halos around lights, tracers, etc) but for many people, this will eventually subside. this is a far cry from being on a permenant trip though...the crap you hear about someone dropping acid and spending the rest of thier life thinking that they are a glass of orange juice is a bullshit scare tactic.

[Nagognog2]

It is possible for a major psychedelic to bring to light a latent psychosis. Hence one should read as much as possible about these drugs - from reliable (non-government) sources. And be aware of one's own personal demons.

But just taking a hit of LSD and tripping forever is a crock of shit.

Get it straight - these substances are NOT toys. They are serious drugs for serious exploration. If you get drunk and stoned and go to a party with people you don't know and someone offers you some acid for the first time in your life - don't do it. Period.

[Ontherooftops]

Jux is right on about HPPD, LSD is terrific at never quite leaving your head all the way.

SWIM took many psychedelic drugs this year. Now SWIM's visuals don't seem to plan on going away for a while, but he it isn't "tripping". SWIM's roommate is really fucked up from too much LSD.

SWIM has a crackpot theory but one not completely without merit, we're all tripping forever in our own perception of existence, and the peak of LSD allows us to say... redirect that perception in a semi or even wholly permanent way.

SWIM's first LSD experience was with a truly catastrophic dose, and the visual distortion and mental effect didn't subside completely for months.

The other day SWIM and a friend were in the art gallery looking at a van gogh that's passing through, one of some houses and a beautifully painted row of trees. SWIM said "looks like LSD", SWIM's friend said "maybe he was just insane" SWIM said "maybe LSD just feels like insanity, oh wait, it does", and much laughing proceeded.

Maybe SWIM is schitzo and LSD brings forth psychotic tendancies/feelings in SWIM, but SWIM doesn't think so...

[big-lester]

Swim never had any negative effects on acid, not before, on it, or after.

He looks upon it as a kind of treat for the mind.

ALTHOUGH you don't want to take it lightely.

He has never felt disturbed or mixed up from acid and he really really REALLY belives that these drugs are not negative or positive on their own. It is what YOU make up of them and it is how YOU treat them.

BUT, as he said, don't think lightely about it.

NOTE, these are SWIMS opinions, just his freedom of speech. no scientific research or something

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[little carrot]

yep, been a year and swim's monkey's flamingo' nanigog's mamma's, still trippin'. dose up.

[Blackhoody]

SWIM has also heard of this nonsense. If you took a lot of acid im sure it would last longer maby a little longer but nothing much. Some people acually had the balls to say that you needed to add rat poison to LSD or you wont come down. Now a doc chem on the other hand. A day at most, and thats the longest I've ever heard someone trip for.

Also if you where in a never ending trip you wouldn't be able to fall asleep.

[eltimmy]

>SWIM has a crackpot theory but one not completely without merit, we're all tripping forever in our own perception of existence

As crackpot as western philosophy since David Hume

[Lehendakari]

Yeah the permanent trip is actually HPPD "Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder" Needless to say, it is not a trip, it's a big problem that acid can trigger in some people, moreso if they take a big dose when they are very young.

Other people can suffer depersonalization/derealization episodes after acid use.

[Egnarodude]

I understand the depersonalization after the use of LSD, i feel this quite a lot of the time. I do suffer from HPPD can some1 possibly give some advise on treating this issue? It drives me nucking futz!

[Henfer]

if you're staying permanently in that LSD state of mind, a doctor would classifiy this as schizophrenia, SWIH thinks. so if you develope schizophrenia and HPPD, than you could call this "tripping forever" in a weird way.

[mr. strawberry]

my monkey came in through my bathroom window last and told me that based on his experience, those visuals and thoughts will mostly go away in time...it might take a few years but it will go away mostly...then, my monkey said he actually began to seriously miss it.

[big_mac]

i wouldnt call LSD a permanent trip, but ya, once u do LSD and come down, your vision is 99.8 % what it used to be

[BackToBasics]

Originally Posted by big_mac

i wouldnt call LSD a permanent trip, but ya, once u do LSD and come down, your vision is 99.8 % what it used to be

Following that logic, Budgie and most DF'ers must be blind by now then!

Sounds like another scare story to Budgie.

[mr. strawberry]

99.8% really? where can I find this study?

[Lacognac69]

SWIM never experienced any problems from lsd but mushrooms caused swim to start trippin during the hangover from alcohol. this could be because swim took shrooms the last time after a night of heavy drinkin. this has luckily ended but it last over a year and a half. SWIM had racing thoughts and things seemed to be in slow motion and there was strange paranoia which was terrible to deal with.

[bunit12]

my aunt is a schizo from too much acid back in the day, its serious shit and a huge burden on my family, i pray to god my few experiments with it dont bring that out in me

[hh339]

How come the dude above is banned and online at the same time?