Stored Urine Spontaneously Produces GHB After Six Months

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Found this posted on another board:


Urine Spontaneousely (sic) Produces GHB After Six Months
By Aaron Rowe EmailJune 06, 2007 | 6:27:00 PMCategories: Drugs & Alcohol

Ghb Imagine this: You take a drug test. Six months later, the lab gets back to you and says that your urine contains trace amounts of a club and date rape drug even though you prefer to spend weekends with your Xbox.

This would be no surprise to scientists at the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, who discovered that urine samples, kept in a refrigerator for six months, spontaneously produce significant amounts of the drug GHB or other chemicals that can result in a false positive result from the most stringent test used by forensic labs. This could cause all sorts of innocent people to test positive for exposure to the illicit substance.

The drug, sometimes called liquid ecstasy, is made from gamma butyrolactone, a solvent used to degrease engine parts or clear plugged drains. Liquid E has become a popular rave drug. It is also favored by rapists as a means to knock people out before sexually assaulting them. It is colorless and odorless, which makes it easy to slip into an unsuspecting victim's drink.

To summarize, the results of our study suggests in vitro production of GHB may increase the apparent GHB concentrations in urine during storage. To minimize this production, it is suggested that urine specimens be maintained in a refrigerated or frozen condition and analyzed as quickly as possible. This is particularly important, because GHB analyses are relatively infrequent requests in many laboratories. Therefore, specimens are likely to be stored for some extended period of time before the analysis is carried out.

The scientists published their findings in the July issue of the journal Forensic Science International. Their paper did not explain how the urine produces the illegal drug, but it cautioned forensic scientists to test urine samples quickly in order to avoid inaccurate results.

To prove that GHB is spontaneously produced in urine, the scientists collected urine specimens from 31 people that claim to have never used the drug. They tested each of the urine samples after seven days, 60 days, and 189 days with a machine called a gas chromatography mass spectrometer. Those instruments are the workhorses of forensic labs because they can be used to identify and determine the amount of many different drugs and poisons in blood, urine, and other bodily fluids. In most of the samples, there was a dramatic increase in the amount of GHB after six months of storage in a refrigerator.

Several months ago, the owner of a natural soap company showed that a common field test kit used by police to identify GHB can be set off by his products. David Bronner released a video of his flagship product, Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps, creating false positive results in a NarcoPouch 928 test kit. This seriously called into question the reliability of those tests. The test that was shown to be misleading by the FBI scientists is considered to be the trustworthy backup of the flawed field test kit.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...ientists_.html

[Alfa]

Someone needs to clean his GC/MS.

[Broshious]

SWIM is going to start saving up his piss.

Reputation Comments on this post:

lol

[snapper]

Could someone post an extraction method after urine properly aged and would heat speed up the reaction. Perhaps if one boiled one's urine it would elute GHB faster...

[MrG]

Very interesting find, although I am somewhat concerned that the hyperlink to GHB in that blog links to Trinka's bullshit site.

[Jatelka]

T<his is interesting.

There is something related in the archive here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/loc...=1332&catid=28

which recounts how GHB can be produced spontaneously in drinks made form grapes

[Pomzazed]

OMG!
*Collects All Urine*
*store half a year*
*vents out ammonia*
*Extract GHB*

Swim's Firecat still has wonder on what might produce hydroxybutyrate on this, the ingredients of urine looks unlikely too.

[Nagognog2]

Here it comes: Cameras in bathrooms. X number of urinations per person per day. Or the Piss-Cops will visit.

[PolyFractus]

Hehe, pananoia is funny

[grandbaby]

^So funny you can forget they might actually be after you.

[Krisco]

That may have worked at the shroomery but i'm not falling for it again DONT DRINK CAT/HUMAN PISS!

[Paracelsus]

Why not? I tried it and it works! I'm an initiate in a circle of urine connoisseurs who only drink properly aged urine. I tell you, the GHB is one of the least pleasant aspects of this noble practice. Now please excuse me, I'm off to the piss cellar to get my daily gallon. And to refill.

[Nacumen]

I wonder if this would work in anhydrous urine? Or does classification as urine imply hydration?

If this would work in anhydrous urine, a SWIM may be interested in constructing a device which would collect expelled urine, subsequently evaporate the sample, then add it to an ever-increasing stock of dried urine.

After a total collection had been removed from this storage container, and then dried for 6 months, this dried urine could then presumably have the necessary extractions performed upon it to acquire the GHB in consumable form. A very thorough purification process would be necessary as well, of course

[Paracelsus]

That would be an interesting thing to patent. But then collecting urine would be considered planning to manufacture a schedule I drug.

[Pomzazed]

^ lol!
The firecat cant imagine what will happen if the patent really comes out!

[Spelvin]

lol a friend of swim's once convinced a very gullible person that a cigarette soaked in piss would have the same effect as PCP. Swim tells me it was very funny to watch him try.