Possible ways to keep X-Effects for a whole day?

[wynter]

1) Crushing a pill and dissolving with a toothpick in water; Chew on toothpick all day

2) Dissolving a pill in water with a toothpick. Chew on toothpick all day.

3)Crushing a pill and spreading powder on wet chewing gum. Chew on gum all day.

4) If possible, post more methods to keep X-Effects all day?

5) What is the difference between:

i.Crushing a pill, dissolving in liquid; and drinking; and
ii. Dropping a pill in liquid, wait for it to dissolve (about 5-10 minutes) and drinking it?

When I say keep the X-Effects, I relate to the the openness, the empathy, the love for others, talkativeness, confidence, euphoria. The part "after" the high.

I haven't tried this, but can anyone validate this/recommend methods to keep the effects of X?

Reputation Comments on this post:

Posts a badly written topic without a good answer and then responded rudely.

[Nagognog2]

Try staying together with your friends from the event - small group or just one or two. Spend the day together until sleep takes over. Then, totally platonic - sleep together and share dreams without fear. This is when a magical opening can occur.

This is known to help the honesty and openess found with the drug.

This is, you know, what you are seeking by popping pill after pill.

[Sigmundblake]

smoking menthal cigerettes helps bring out the effects and sometimes helps prolong the feeling.

SWIM finds that eating a healthy sized meal (not too much otherwise you feel ill) just before the come down kicks in helps a bit as well. a good breakfast in a cafe after a night out clubbing

not sure about the the toothpick thing though

[wynter]

Smoking menthol's I already know about.. yet it doesn't relate to the topic.. I referring to methods that last a whole day (ideally 12 hours or more before a comedown)

[podge]

Chewing on anything that taste's like MDMA wouldnt be much fun.....the stuff taste's horrible and would probably damage swiy's taste buds. The empathy,euphoria,talkativness IS the high....not the after effects.

Swim doesnt see how this can be achieved without just taking more MDMA every couple of hours or perhaps taking another drug with it like 2c-b which may help prolong the high.

Why would swiy want to roll all day?....the comedown would probably be hellish.

Euphoria, empathy, long duration.....only thing that may fit the bill for swim would be mescaline. MDMA is a mescaline analogue after all. But do not be confused....they are very different drugs.

[wynter]

Hmm, guess you guys aren't of much help. You get the drift.. perhaps 12 hours or more of not intensified highs, but rather the after-effect of a high, the part before you crash.

I'm still up for answers.. though I will try the chewing gum method probably today..

Reputation Comments on this post:

there's a difference between "being of help" and talling you what you want to hear

[podge]

Originally Posted by wynter

Hmm, guess you guys aren't of much help. You get the drift.. perhaps 12 hours or more of not intensified highs, but rather the after-effect of a high, the part before you crash.

They are all serious answers , good luck finding people who will be of more assistance.

The part after the high.....but not the crash ? What exactly is that ? For everyone swim knows when the high is over the crash has begun.

Either take very small doses of MDMA throughout the day at set intervels or go research a different drug that might do what you desire.

MDMA is what it is, take it or leave it. Just because you want MDMA to do this for you doesnt mean it can or will.

[eltimmy]

Exercise, diet, prayer, meditation, yoga, cognitive behavioral techniques, active effort to connect w/ others, reading good books ...

[wynter]

Serious answers please.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by wynter

Serious answers please.

The answers are serious. MDMA's good effects really only last a few hours-- possibly six at the most, but there is often a positive 'afterglow' feeling for hours afterwards.

Try studying this page, especially the "QUALITATIVE COMMENTS."

[ProtectedByTheGods]

SWIM has on occasions dissolved some MDMA in a bottle of water, of which
he would take small sips every now and then. Shake the bottle well before sipping.
These are complemental doses of course, to be taken after an initial proper
dose, otherwise running the risk of getting no real effect.

[Jatelka]

Simply speaking: There isn't a way.

Small doses throughought the day don't produce the loved-upness, euphoria and empathy. Taking normal-sized doses repeatedly results in speediness, wiredness, confusion and brain-dead fucked upness.

Sometimes flamingos just need to accept that good things do not last for as long as they would want.

[keats]

Just taking a moderate dose in the morning and another as you feel like you're coming down can give you a day long roll with few side effects. SWIM thinks you should change your tone a bit if you want "real" suggestions. People here are just trying to help you out and as jek said you're asking a question without a good answer.

[stoneinfocus]

Yes, the afterglow can be very long if you´re experienced in techniques of empathy without a drug and then even 50mg will give swimmies a good roll and some little added on now-and-then

[Triple-Rox]

Just to add swims opinion, He thinks that as the way of supplemental dosages go it's quite psycological he means that even though low supplemental won't produce much of an actual chemical effect with the right mindset it can produce more feeling to the trip.

[Saf]

SWIM has experimented with this and heard all sorts of crazy rumours. None, in SWIMS experience, work. MDMA lasts for maybe 8 hours, repeatedly dosing will just make SWIY appear to have taken a lot of methamphetamine.

SWIM has found that when taking MDMA to just enjoy, have fun, don't megadose (pointless), and that there has been no way to prolong the effects of MDMA without resorting to other class A substances.

[Stiney]

Like everyone else said wyntr, it simply can't be done. "the X-Effects, I relate to the the openness, the empathy, the love for others, talkativeness, confidence, euphoria" are caused (mainly) by the release and re-release of serotonin, but sooner of later, usually sooner, your serotonin stores simply exhaust themselves (run dry) and it takes at least a couple of days for you to build them back up. Even takin 5-htp supplements will take a day or two to pass the blood brain barier and top up your stores again. Trying to extend the effects of mdma past the normal running time is like trying to pump water from an empty well.

[Jiggles]

To SWIM, it sounds like SWIwynter doesn't understand the mechanics behind an MDMA roll and should read up some about why SWIY "crashes" or comes down from it. SWIM thinks this presentation may fit the bill:http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/ It's primary focus is the neurotoxicity of MDMA but it still provides a good explanation of the entire roll. Pretty good reading if SWIY has the time

[~lostgurl~]

Urinary alkalinisers may increase the half life of MDMA from 7 hours to 16-31 hours.

See this file in the archive:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/loc...tid=69&lpage=1

(Interactions) Urinary alkalinisers: Alkaline urine increases amounts of un-ionised amphetamine, which then permits increased tubular reabsorption.
This effect may increase the half-life from 7-12 hours to 18-34 hours for methamphetamine or from seven to 16-31 hours for MDMA.
Depending on the situation, some amphetamine users may find this a beneficial effect, whereas others may find it problematic.

Reputation Comments on this post:

intelligent contribution, thanks for sharing

[Jiggles]

Thanks for the good read lostgurl SWIM found this part interesting also:

Alcohol may slow methamphetamine metabolism and may increase serum concentrations of MDMA by 9-15%; the mechanism of these changes is unclear.

SWIM thinks that really the only useful application of increasing the half-life of MDMA or increasing it's serum concentration would be to make a small amount of it go further (i.e. SWIY has half a pill left from last night's rave that SWIY doesn't want going to waste).

[tayo]

If Jimbo Jones were pressing Ecstasy pills he would get creative and attempt to make a sustained release pill, Ecstasy XR.

[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by tayo

If Jimbo Jones were pressing Ecstasy pills he would get creative and attempt to make a sustained release pill, Ecstasy XR.

If this did work, there is always the offchance of having an anxiety reaction instead of the classic one. Not a good idea.

[Alfa]

MDMA does not work all day. One can keep on redosing, yes. But if one wants a whole day experience, then look into materials that have a longer duration.