Opinions - War on Drugs Greatests Hits

[Lehendakari]

We all know the great failures of war on drugs already, but what do you guys think are war on drugs "victorys"?

I'm not talking about good things resulting of this policy, just the things they were to accomplish and did success. For example:

- They did a pretty good job banning methaqualone, apparently it's impossible to get it anywhere except for south africa.

- Also GHB is damn near impossible to get in America.

- LSD is apparently becoming more unavialable every day

[stoneinfocus]

You have to watch out when buying horse, ´cause every 5 miniutes is a cop-car or special unit cruisin´ around, but it works inbetween very well so no bigger probs at all, but if you´re a sissy, you prob. wouldn´t dare trying it.

LSD is hard to get,

The "partys" swim visits are all drug-free except Ethanol and smokes and usually are over at 2-3 o´clock, with some alcohol-zombies standing around, looking pissed, with some minor exceptions of pill users, ok big citiy clubbing ends at 4-5... but still it´s empty the techno locations pubs, that´ve been outruled by multi-stage mass dicos, that play 3-4kinds of totally differnt music styles, for the hill-billy and ex-hippie, to pop, over techno.. or a sort of... so these aren´t going to be raped by special police units, that killed the rave scene.

10 years ago it was the other way around... parts wiothout endings, happy crouds and peeps talkin´and having some powders in their drinks, young kids, mid-twens... masses, all peacfully, totally tolerant to each other and empathetic, no hyporcrits, enjoying and contacting each other and doing drugs of different variations, makign new experiences.

all gone, dead, over n out.... todays "raves" are commercial fucks with some porno chicks that want get ther vaginas being filmed so they´ll be on TV all other big events are dead, that used to ghappen on a weekly basis.

[grandbaby]

Well, they're managing to kill off a number of heroin users - due to varying quality of street smack, opiate enthusiasts are dying in record numbers.

And there are lots of people who would have tried MDMA - one of the safest psychoactives around - who have been scared off it because prohibition has engendered dodgy pills with PMA and other fun poisons in them. According to recent British reports, those kids are doing cocaine instead!

LSD, a drug with no known lethal dose, has become quite difficult to get as well. It is being replaced on the street with psychedelic amphetamines (the DO family of chems) which are known to have intense negative physical reactions requiring hospitalization at higher doses.

At least they've done a great job at keeping really dangerous drugs like crack, heroin, and crystal meth off the streets.

What are you looking like that for? Didn't you read the DEA website? Prohibition is working!

[Swimster]

indeed. As far as a victory goes for those a-holes: Back in the 80's, in newyork, a shit-load of ungsters, and ages of all-sorts were smoking crack. What the government did, was instead of helping the current users, created dare, and did a lot of work on the next generation while young, and led them to believe "crack kills", "crack is whack", and you know the rest. This is why so many youngsters of the new-generation are scared shit-less of cocaine.

Also, with lsd, all the fake ass horror stories.

..leading alot of substances to be unpopular by the crowd has slowed down production.

[Broshious]

You have to admit disinformation is far more effective in curtailing drug use than law enforcement is. Reading what people say about MDMA and such on Yahoo Answers is some scary stuff.

[Swimster]

^^ reading answers on yahoo is as smart as taking advise on totse. (alot of imature, ignorant people eh.)

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hahahaha so true

[grandbaby]

Originally Posted by Swimster

leading a lot of substances to be unpopular by the crowd has slowed down production.

I beg to differ. Many street drugs are cheaper and more plentiful now than they ever have been. (When I said they've curtailed supply of "dangerous drugs" I was dripping sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious.) MDMA and LSD production may have slowed from their peaks in the 1970s and 1980s respectively, but pretty much anything with an LD-LO is more available now than ever. If I were of a more conspiracy-minded bent (I don't think that anyone's capable of being organized enough to be as effectively sinister as we want to make them out to be, hail Eris), I would say that this is part of a plan to weed out drug users by ONLY allowing potentially deadly drugs onto the streets.

[Lehendakari]

Where I live, I think they are "winning" the war. I remember the time you could go to an specific area down town and people could get a bunch of acid and mushrooms, weed, hash. Now you find something if you are lucky.

In the clubs, there was a whole drug market and dealers everywhere. Now it is very hard to get anything, and quality has decreased more so in the case of hash. 5 years ago people could easily find good hash at a very low price. They only thing you find now is dog shit.

[MrJim]

Where I live Prices for Heroin, Cocaine and Crack have decreased steadily since the early nineties. There are more users, dealers and we even have VANDU, the Vancouver Area Network of Drug Users which fights for the right to be both an addict and taken seriously. I would have to say that as america has beefed up enforcement Canada has decreased it and (please correct me if I am wrong here) places like Britain are also loosening the noose.

[LSD-25]

Well, they do a good job at keeping the dangerous stuff around.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Well make all these substance legal and have them produced by pharmaceutical companies and they will certainly be less dangerous.Ofcourse in the dictatorship called the United States of America this is not happening anytime soon.

[stoneinfocus]

Yeah, one good thing is, h prices fell dramatically, while purity still being on the high side.

Bad thing is, all drugs except marijuana are death and anarchy, so all kiddies with 14 years of age smoke weed while stil being conservatives asses themselves, with the named opinion on hard drugs. -I hate this Hippie, Bio, Nature stuff, but smoking 60 cigs a day and some joints and drinking one to three beers / day... allright...so, there you got the worst drugs, with the worst administration routes and the worst addiction behaviours all incorporated, by overall socially accepted drugs and behaviour.

[tayo]

Wait what war are we fighting on drugs? Is it the Iraq "War". All of our soldiers are fighting on drugs???!! thatd be just like vietnam, and that one america lost

[tayo]

and interesting quote from a Shyne song, (Shyne a brooklyn gangster in jail/rapper) "tell me what the fuck happened when the c.i.a. conspired, distribute crack in my environment"...and..."now black people don't own no ports or boats, so tell me how the fuck we gettin all this coke" some might say he has a point there.

C.I.A. does or did a lot of shady shit, does SWIY think they had something to do with the crack epidemic of the 80's and 90's?

[stoneinfocus]

I´d say, that´s def. a possibility.
I think today you can drug everyone who´s doing too well on his own thing.....

I think the album deicide deicide is much too worse, to what they´ve performed before. I think, I was and maybe am, still under the influence of drugs, that I didn´t chose taking, nor know where they´re coming from, or what they exactly, are but since I´ve been incarcerated, nothing´s the same anymore, for years now and all drugs I used to know and take, seem to have a totally different action, like it´s not gettin´ me high, only physical sides, as opposed to being sober for months or a year, feels like physical and mental hell. Maybe it´s just the psycho-terror I´ve encountred, to be fair, but as an elite athlete, I know what my body should be able to achieve and what it should achieve under the influence on performance enhancing known drugs, which all don´t work anymore, like having an power capacity of half of being sober while it should be 30%-150% more with the enhancement permenantely... allright, enough paranoia, even if I was right about it, if it gets too bizarre for a normal working idiot, you disqualify yourself as a psycho.

[Lehendakari]

Just to point out another success of these bastards, in my contry prescrptions will be managed only digitally which means that pharmacist and doctors will have a hot line and no paper makin it impossible for fake precription and moreso, prescription meds will be highly watched in order to stop fraudulent prescription and unresponsible pharmacists.

They have also introduced a new driving drug test for drugs like XTC, canabbis, cocaine. In the tv footage there was this guy saying: What really pisses me off is that I took the pill yesterday, and know I'm working and they say I can no longer drive I don't know how my boss is going to react

[zera]

Originally Posted by tayo

C.I.A. does or did a lot of shady shit, does SWIY think they had something to do with the crack epidemic of the 80's and 90's?

The urban legend that the CIA invented crack is completely ridiculous. Free base cocaine has existed well before the CIA was ever formed, free base cocaine is an intermediary in the cocaine extraction procedure. Benga posted a patent that shows that free base cocaine has been used in the extraction procedure at least since the 19th century, and most likely since the discovery of the alkaloid.

[allyourbase]

they didnt "invent" it. they supplied the market, and had reagan do a commercial for it, knowing that would increase the demand.