IS it possible to die from one pill?

[smokeymcbongwater]

Ok, i've read on erowid thats theres a 1 in a million chance someone can die from mdma, but what id like to know is, is it possible for someone to die from one pill, because it is not mdma in the pill but another drug, because even though losing twenty dollars buying fake mdma is bad, it is much better than dying, and SWIM would much rather just pay 20 dollars for caffeine, or DXM or whatever other drug is put into the pill, than die.

[Psych0naut]

Yes, there are some countries where PMA is used as an adulterant in pills. PMA is a very dangerous drug which has indeed caused deaths to people who didn't know PMA was in their pills.

[Zee]

A frequent cause of death with MDMA happens in the rave environment. The drug causes an accelerated heartbeat and a rise in body temperature and on the dance floor with so many people grooving around each other one could over heat and have a stroke or just simply pass out. Another thing with MDMA is that there is a fatal dose threshold which is relatively close to the needed affect dose. But if SWIY's got only 1 pill then SWIY should have nothing to worry about.

[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by Zee

Another thing with MDMA is that there is a fatal dose threshold which is relatively close to the needed affect dose. But if SWIY's got only 1 pill then SWIY should have nothing to worry about.

Please show your data on this threshold. The LD50 of MDMA is very high. If such actually exists.

[JDreaming]

MDMA almost never results in overdose or permanent injury, except the aforementioned scenario of speedy heartrate + dancing + lack of hydration = stroke or heart attack. If the thing the dealer gives you that he calls "Ecstacy" contains other drugs, than there's all sorts of other risks that could come into play. But the bottom line is... can you die from taking just one pill? Probably. Will it actually happen? Very, very unlikely. Even if it's a crooked dealer selling MDMA mixed with meth, coke, PCP or whatever else, risk of death would probably still only start to appear in higher doses.

[stoneinfocus]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Please show your data on this threshold. The LD50 of MDMA is very high. If such actually exists.

It´s 3-4grams = ~30-120 of the average pills?

[Swimster]

1 pill with pure mdma, at an average dose is proper, but if it's really adulterated than there's a good chance of something bad. And it HAS happened to people with just 1 pill too. Also: MDMA:MDMA, XTC:"MDMA"+...

[Swimster]

another good rule of thumb is to never take morre than 1, if swiy dosn't know of the contents.

[Alekseev]

One pill of pure MDMA? Highly unlikely. Two? Possible. Then again, it is not really the MDMA that will kill (unless you have an allergy to it), but rather overheating or hypothermia; etc. On the other hand, one "MDMA" pill with contaminants is extremely plausible...Like others said, don't take more than one if Swim doesn't know what is in the tablet. Maybe don't even take one if you don't know...

[dirk]

of course it's "possible" to die after taking a single pill of MDMA.

but it isn't very probable. (that's what 1 in a million chance means)

more people die from peanut allergy.

It's even less probable if you thoroughly educate yourself by reading both pro-drug and anti-drug information.

try typing "harm reduction" and "ecstasy" or "MDMA" into a search engine.

then try "myths" and "MDMA" or "ecstacy"

[Psych0naut]

10-20 times the normal dose is probaply fatal, certainly not the an amount close to the normal dose. There has only been one human LD50 recorded, which happened accidentally at the Edgewood Arsenal, a man died after he was injected with 500mg MDMA.

[Powder_Reality]

Another thing with MDMA is that there is a fatal dose threshold which is relatively close to the needed affect dose.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you were referring to PMA when you said this, right?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a regular recreational dose of PMA is very close to the LD50. As well, PMA takes longer to kick in than MDMA (I think I read it takes 2 hours or so), which could lead to someone ingesting multiple PMA-laced pills before the first one even starts to take effect. This would put the user far over the LD50 dosage withouth them even realizing it.

Some words of wisdom: Tell SWIY to invest in a testing kit.

[MinJy]

I know every drug is differnt but If i had a really bad trip on Salvia, would i have bad trips on every other drug i try? Or can my mind handle different drugs?

[hh339]

You're not going to believe this, but SWiM knows this person that goes through over a hundred tabs a weekend, AT LEAST. This person will probably die soon, but the point is that you can't die from a dose of MDMA, unless you get some type of allergic reaction or something. Or pills with PMA, for instance. SWiM also knew someone who died from taking 12 (or so) tabs at once. Probably not MDMA though.

MinJy: Many people can't handle salvia. It's not a party trip. Does not mean that it would happen again. Start low, and choose substances carefully.

[MinJy]

i was going to go from weed to XTC but i thought Salvia was more of a realistic transfer over from weed. I guess my next question would be is taking XTC next the right thing? or would i have 8 hours of hell to go through?

[hh339]

MDMA is nothing like salvia. It is pure euphoria. Salvia can be pure horror.
I can't imagine a normal dose of MDMA doing anything scary to SWiY.

[MinJy]

Ok Because that 10 minutes was HELL. Pure euphoria is what exactly? i know what i beleive is enough about XTC but i don't want to go through anything like Salvia again. How can i prevent that?

[hh339]

First of all, I got a little carried away there. This is way of topic, and edit your posts as they violate the rules of the forum.

Many, including me, would (probably) try to answer your questions, but please make a new thread about it, because this one is about MDMA and death.

Euphoria = extreme happiness.

[tayo]

I believe the only way for death to be possible with pure MDMA is if there is a pre-existing heart condition, extremely bad blood pressure, adulterants, drug combos, or overheating and dehydration. None of these would place any blame on MDMA itself. So if one in a million have heart conditions then one in a million might die.

[coke]

Just thought i'd pop in and mention that as long as you take the nessacary precautions you are MUCH MUCH more likley to die in a car accident on the way to a party then actually from taking the MDMA at the party.


Nessacary precautions meaning,if you haven't done it before do it with someone that has done it before and can help guide you through it, take breaks, sit down avoid wearing a jacket if your inside and moving drink water when thirsty and if not thirsty forcing down about 250ml of water an hour should keep you in check.Also avoid continueing drinking if you can't urinate.

[TMM]

It's possible to be allergic to MDMA, is it not?

[Nagognog2]

There have been rare cases of being allergic with nasty side-effects life profuse sweating, aches, nausea. But not dropping dead.

[TMM]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

There have been rare cases of being allergic with nasty side-effects life profuse sweating, aches, nausea. But not dropping dead.

Ah, I see. I'll have to try and kill that particular rumour, then. Thanks.

[manda]

Yes, sweetie, it is. Your gut is telling you it is, or you wouldn't have raised the question. Learn to listen to that voice. That is the voice that will protect you in your life.

[Rio Fantastic]

I think that extremely sensitive people can die from serotonin syndrome after having just MDMA, but usually this reaction only happens if you are on SSRIs at the time. Also, drinking the wrong amount of water can happen on MDMA. But, taking basic precautions means that you can easily avoid most of the life-threatening aspects of MDMA. Eg - a pill testing kit can easily avoid taking some bad pills, and drinking a large glass of water each forty minutes or so can avoid dehydrating, and checking your medication can easily avoid a case of serotonin syndrome.