Ecstasy: A Trend or A Growth

[Alekseev]

It seems that ecstasy has already lost alot of its popularity in Europe and the Middle East as many switch over to cocaine and other substances. My question is: Is ecstasy a trend that will die down like LSD and GHB have in the US, or is it here to reign along with cocaine, heroin and marijuana? Please explain your reasoning...

[Alekseev]

I'll just throw in that I think it's here to stay; however, I'm disappointed in the quality. Swim wishes that there was some consistency as well as decent manufacturers who would give ecstasy a better reputation for purity than some of the other drugs out there...Right now, it seems that even heroin is ahead of ecstasy (at least where Swim is...)

[Bajeda]

Still don't see alot of cocaine in the Middle-East these days. North Africa maybe, but not the Middle-East.

[Alekseev]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

Still don't see alot of cocaine in the Middle-East these days. North Africa maybe, but not the Middle-East.

You're correct... Swim has *heard* that many are sick of MDMA and are moving on to other substances like speed and coke. Coke in the Middle East is overpriced baking soda with a little dash of cocaine for effect. The Middle East is alot more restricted, but it seems like they would dive into another substance if it became more available. Do you think that ecstasy is here to stay as a major drug? I'm also curious about the US market. Do you think that the ecstasy and rave scene will pass over and lose their popularity? It seems that some in Europe have already moved on from ecstasy to 2CT2, CT2, 2CT7, BZP and whatever the other ones are...

[enquirewithin]

MDMA is peculiar in that the first few times people take it it is very 'special' and has little hangover. (As well as that, if you take more than about 200-300 mg at a time, the effects change and the hangover can be much worse.) You cannot take it more than once a week at most and get much positive effect out of it. The more often you take it, the less the famous 'magic' becomes, the more the unpleasant amphetamine-like after effects become. This may even be die to some physiological change.

"Ecstasy" will remain popular because more young people will discover it. None of the RCs will ever have that popularity (although mthylone has its enthusiasts). Coke and speed were there long before.

[Pondlife]

Originally Posted by enquirewithin

"Ecstasy" will remain popular because more young people will discover it. None of the RCs will ever have that popularity (although mthylone has its enthusiasts). Coke and speed were there long before.

I agree that MDMA is here to stay. In time I expect that it will become one of the classic drugs.

However, I'm not sure that none of the RCs will ever match it in popularity. This is something that noone knows at the moment, but I suspect that in the future we'll develop more classic drugs that started life as RCs. Sure, most RCs will end up being dead-ends, but I suspect that there are essentially infinate number of psycoactive chemicals, and I think that we've only just scratched the surface of what's possible.

[bluecow]

SWIM reckons that over the 20 or so years that they have been taking Es that the quality has gone up and down. Recently swim had a two and a half year break from all substances and on swims returm they hoped to have their mind boggled as they had taken such a long break. swim was hugely dissapointed that the quality at the moment is utterly appalling. Swim likens finding good quality es to searching for the Holy Grail.
Swim reckons that the minute that some high quality es become available demand will increase. Swim reckons it would be false econimy to manufacture poor quality Es. I they whoever it is that makes the bloody things made good ones the demand would increase drastically.

[Nacumen]

Ecstasy already is a classic drug in SWIM's opinion.

As for all the 2T chemicals Alekseev listed... those are 'tripping' chemicals, one could say. They're hardly candidates to replace chemicals intended primarily to induce some kind of euphoria.

[Vysas]

Ecstasy will stay!Young people always coming,and discovering this magical drug,music,rave,clubs...E is integral part of all that.
But is stil far from classical drugs such as cocaine and marijuana,and maybe is better to always stay in underground.

[kumar]

"Lots of Papers"

[triple_stack_smoke]

Of course excstacy is gonna stay because of the perfect high u get

Its an orgasm in heaven