never done ecstacy... swim got a pill!

[student_is_here]

Swim has never done ecstacy, but swim just got supplied a pill.
The guy who supplied it definatly takes them himself, but still... are there any reasons to be cautious? is it true that these can be like 50% amphetamine?

also is it ok to do this if there is already a high amount of epherine/caffine in the system? (swim uses for excersise, etc).

swim hears that anti-psychotics may be useful in the event of a bad ecstacy trip... is this true? Swim had access to Quetiapine if needed.

any help would be fantastic!

thanks.

[tayo]

look it up online first, many places do non-profit analysis of constituents in different labelled thizz pills. for safety purposes SWIM thinks it might be like www.ravesafe.com

but whatever SWIY chooses to do with it good luck have fun be safe and report back so drug-forumers can know how it went. K.I.T. w/ drugs-forum.

[Jatelka]

SWIY needs to do MUCH more research. "Pills" can contain absolutely anything, from MDMA to amphetamine to DXM to the deadly (such as PMA)

Start here, by going through the Ecstacy Basics and Ecstacy Experiences threads.

Use the Search Engine to find out about testing SWIY's pill. Try searching for "Marquis" or "Testing Kit"

Mixing stimulants with other stimulants is never a good idea: Elevated heart rate and blood pressure are never fun and are potentially dangerous.

Antipsychotics are certainly not something to be played around with, and SWIJ would definitely NOT recommend their use to "come down" from anything.

There's so much information out there about keeping safe, please take SWIYour time.

[INSANEPOOKIE]

My advice, if you wish to be as cautious as possible is to purchase a test kit.

The "Complete Adulterant Screening Kit" from dancesafe.org is a good example. The test kits can't tell you if the pill is completely safe or how much X is in the pill. Still, keep in mind that if you use each test it helps improve the odds of not taking something you did not intentionally wish to place in your body.

[tayo]

This is for after SWIY finds the exact type of what is in the pill and if there is a bad trip... SWIY should read below and then evaluate circumstances, whether beneficial or not in aborting a session.

in the event that SWIMs pill definitively works on serotonin or dopamine receptors.... in the event of a bad trip... 25-100mg of seroquel could knock you out as it completely inhibits the receptors thus blocking other drug inhibition. it would overpower most things, though MDMA works on serotonin, dopamine, and adrenaline also so it would alleviate most if not all of the "bad trip" (hypothetically). SWIM is no doctor but quetiapine as a newer generally safer atypical antipsychotic could definitely come in handy when compared to how bad a trip could go.
SWIM only recommends it as an absolute "emergency abort pill" a dose of 25-100mg. Starting with 25mg. Anti-psychotics should not really be used for comedowns, as Bitch Queen stated.

[Alicia]

There are other come down aids around which would be considerably more safer then playing with anti-psychotics. Some people dont tend to come down on things and might not be needed. Buy would be interesting to see how swistudent_is_here pill experience goes. Swia has some curiosity with mdma but can be never sure its what it is with out test kits. She hears people saying she'd really like it. but remains cautious.

[student_is_here]

thanks for all the speedy responses! I am going to do some more research now and will of course report back on how swim's expierience is, etc...

[Shiacmkmleer]

Originally Posted by student_is_here

thanks for all the speedy responses! I am going to do some more research now and will of course report back on how swim's expierience is, etc...

Awesome, best of luck SWIY. btw remember to drink enough, but not too much.

[Dalfir]

Isn't ecstacy a form of amphetamine, clean or not? It is methylenedioxy-methamphetamine anyway, right?

[Whit]

Orange juice before during and after a trip might help replenish serotin etc. SWIY might also try vitamin tablets (5-htp etc)

MDMA or as you quite rightly say methelenedioxymethamphetamine is an altered methamphetamine.

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by Whit

Orange juice before during and after a trip might help replenish serotin etc.

Not true. Never heard of anything like that.

SWIY might also try vitamin tablets (5-htp etc)

OK

MDMA or as you quite rightly say methelenedioxymethamphetamine is an altered methamphetamine.

Hmm. I don't know what you are implying here, but the experiences of meth and mdma are far from alike.

[Dalfir]

That's probably from the additional dual methoxy groups and methylene...Or so I assume.

(Is it any surprise that I never did Science in high school, but suddenly have an interest in organic chemistry? :P)

[Nagognog2]

Listen to Jatelka. That is the correct directions to answer your questions.

Never mind the peanut-gallery. Research.

[student_is_here]

Originally Posted by Shiacmkmleer

Awesome, best of luck SWIY. btw remember to drink enough, but not too much.

what happens if you drink too much? (excuse my ignorance) haha.

[INSANEPOOKIE]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
Water intoxication:
Water intoxication (also known as hyperhydration or water poisoning) is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain function that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside of safe limits by a very rapid intake of water.

[student_is_here]

oh water intoxication... i see. though physiologically speaking, that would take a hell of a lot of water in a hell of a short time!

[Nagognog2]

Something like this should be avoided...

[doolishis]

Nice! SWIM can't wait to hear about SWIY's first experience. Just remember to do the research and hang out with someone when SWIY is finally comfortable trying it. Haffun!

[INSANEPOOKIE]

I would imagine a person not on any drugs would find it difficult to overdose on water. The use of X may allow a person to jump over the normal hurdle that would keep one safe.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by INSANEPOOKIE

I would imagine a person not on any drugs would find it difficult to overdose on water. The use of X may allow a person to jump over the normal hurdle that would keep one safe.

^^ Well that being said, there are a lot of idiots around, swia recalls a post where there was a mention of an event were people were having a water drinking contest. so guess where that went.

[INSANEPOOKIE]

Originally Posted by Alicia

^^ Well that being said, there are a lot of idiots around, swia recalls a post where there was a mention of an event were people were having a water drinking contest. so guess where that went.

Darwin Award hand out time!

[artik]

At your local pharmacy or GNC you can find some 5-HTP. This replaces lack of serotonin in the brain. This day-after herbal supplement does not by any means replace lost brain cells or damage caused by the MDMA but it sure helps the e-tardedness. A bottle should cost about xxxxxxxx


DO NOT POST PRICES.

[INSANEPOOKIE]

They have 5-HTP+Vitamin C combo pills now. There has been a bit of research suggesting that pre and post load of these pills (and using on the same day of use) may help greatly with the lowered possible chance of neurotoxicity damage. SWIM was hoping that a group through MAPS would take a deeper look at this and provide test results.

[Whit]

Originally Posted by FrankenChrist

Not true. Never heard of anything like that.

Well being as Vitamin C (which I'm sure you'd find a bit of in orange juice!) is a key part in the synthesis of serotonin, I just thought I might be helpfull and mention this.

Spose next time you wish to attack me, just do a little research yourself!


"Vitamin C is important and necessary for the synthesis of the neurotransmitters, norepinephrine and serotonin. It catalyzes the conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine and the conversion of tryptophan to serotonin." - http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_c.html

First result when searching "vitamin c serotonin"

[Shwags]

yeah SWIM has never rolled either and SWIM just got a pill and is gonna do it tonight. Thing is, SWIM is already drunk and wondering if it is chill to drop a wheel after already being very drunk.