MDMA Powder

[Whit]

Hi all,

SWIM's been curious about XTC for some time and has been reading up on the substance for a while now.

SWIM's got an issue with purity - and he feels that even with a pill that has been dubbed "good, fairly clean...." or whatever by previous users, without test etc you can never tell what your actually taken.

SWIM's therefore decided that if he was to try and get some MDMA flowing - although powder could still be cut with something else - the purity issue is less of a worry.

The only thing SWIM is concerned about it obviously powder is very likely to have a much higher concentration of MDMA, and SWIM's very worried about consuming the right doses!

He's 10.5 stone or 66KG and has no tollerance.

Obviously when experienceing X for the first time SWIM would have taken half a pill to see how things go, with powder this obviously isn't possible so SWIM would be looking for a dose that would be equvilant to "testing" out the substance before he took a real hit.

Sorry if you feel SWIM should have UTFSE or whatever but SWIM's have been reading through these forums and other sites for a while now and feel this is the only thing still pressing SWIM.

Thanks all

[Nature Boy]

The threshold dose for MDMA is around 30mg or so. Over the course of a session users might to take 125mg (an eighth of a gram) or so, experienced users sometimes going for more.

[BIG-TRON]

if ur a beginner start with 120-130 as this amount will be sure to give u a nice warm trip.

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by BIG-TRON

if ur a beginner start with 120-130 as this amount will be sure to give u a nice warm trip.

In Swim's humble opinion, go just a little lower. You don't want it to be too pushy and overwhelming, let alone make him look like an e-tard.

Less is more.

[Psych0naut]

100mg would be a better dose for a beginner according to SWIM. 125 might indeed be too much, and the first time SWIY tries MDMA should be perfect, overdoing it could ruin SWIY's first try with MDMA, and the first time is allways the best one if doses correctly.

[Nagognog2]

Standard Shulgin dose: 120mg. Booster dose @1hour: 40mg.

Bongo concurs with Shulgin.

[FrankenChrist]

It's still a bit much.

SwiFr wouldn't take more than 120, so for a beginner he'd recommend 100-ish.

Come to think of it, is SwiW going to eyeball it?

[Whit]

Cheers for the input guys. SWIM was thinkin' it might be a bit risky to eyeball it but then again scales aren't lookin' too cheap. SWIM might know somebody with scales.......

SWIM was thinkin' of "droppin a bomb" - powder wrapped in rizla and swalled. Noone think this is a bad idea for a first timer do they?

Cheers

[Nagognog2]

An accurate balance/scale is a must for anyone planning to use powerful psychoactives.

"Parachuting" powders is perfectly acceptable - is empty gelcaps are unavailable.

[JT06]

swims got the exact same thing goin, gonna do mdma before X, swim hates snorting, is boming (parachuting) just as good?

[podge]

Originally Posted by JT06

swims got the exact same thing goin, gonna do mdma before X, swim hates snorting, is boming (parachuting) just as good?

Swin can vouch that bombing is more than ok. He thinks that snorting MDMA would sting like fuck.

[enquirewithin]

^Very effective. Dissolving in water orange juice would work fine too. It will come on quicker with an empty stomach. (Snorting changes things a bit-- too rapid in onset.)

[Peppy]

SWIM is an experienced MDMA tripper and still takes 100MG of pure MDMA, this is a perfect amount (and you get more out of the gram). Tried 150MG before but this results in a very monged out state, cant keep eyes open or walk much! More than feel the effects on 100MG, then redose every 2-3 hours depending on tolerance.

[blue jammer]

Be advised that if white and powder, it could be cut.

SWIM recommends brown crystals - that way you know for sure it hasn't been cut. SWIM would break it down with a rolling pin (in the bag still) and then weigh out the desired doses.

[Twiglet]

hey, This means that because it's illegal it could potentially be dangerous as you don't know what it is! but you still have to try it

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[Peppy]

Originally Posted by blue jammer

Be advised that if white and powder, it could be cut.

SWIM recommends brown crystals - that way you know for sure it hasn't been cut. SWIM would break it down with a rolling pin (in the bag still) and then weigh out the desired doses.

SWIM disagrees. The colour of the crystals depends on how the MDMA has been synthesized. The final 'wash' of the crystals will result in a white powder. The brown crystals indicate the final wash has not been complete, so SWIY will find that brown is less pure than white as the process has not been complete. This could be a lazy chemist.

In SWIMS experience, SWIM has not noticed a dip in performace with brown vs white - however with brown your body is processing more chemicals - thats not to say the MDMA hasnt been cut before it reaches SWIY.

[naatural]

What impurities are there in unwashed mdma (not active I hope)? SWIM was told once that brown is best for crystals/white best for powder...

[keats]

Honestly 100mg is a fine first time starting dose unless you're really worried or have a history of depression and/or medical issues with stimulants. Unlike hallucinogens you don't really need to worry about a bad trip, and if you're getting pure MDMA powder 100mg will be a both a safe dose and a great time.

[robert whitfield]

Originally Posted by Peppy

SWIM disagrees. The colour of the crystals depends on how the MDMA has been synthesized. The final 'wash' of the crystals will result in a white powder. The brown crystals indicate the final wash has not been complete, so SWIY will find that brown is less pure than white as the process has not been complete. This could be a lazy chemist.

In SWIMS experience, SWIM has not noticed a dip in performace with brown vs white - however with brown your body is processing more chemicals - thats not to say the MDMA hasnt been cut before it reaches SWIY.

Peppy could SWIY describe how this 'wash' might be carried out, is it the same process described in Le Junks pill cleaning thread or is it a A/B recrystalisation ?


robert

[Stiney]

Originally Posted by Whit

- although powder could still be cut with something else - the purity issue is less of a worry.

Couldn't disagree more with this presumption. Over the past few years as people have started to actively seek out MDMA powder, SWIM has known more than a handful of people that have been purchasing the same pills from the same people they always purchased them from, taking a rolling pin, crushing them up and selling them as "molly" or "pure mdma" or "powdered crystals" ect, in some cases more than doubling their profits. SWIM has also spoken to many people that have unknowingly purchased this crushed pill powder and then gone on to tell SWIM how much better it is than normal pills, including some people that SWIM would have presumed would know better. In SWIM's experience its a complete myth (or clever marketing) that buying MDMA powder is by any strech of the imagination, safer, better of purer than buying pills. The same rules still apply regardless weather you are discussing pills or powder, unscrupulous manufacturers will still dilute out thier product and unscrouplulos distributers will still misrepresent thier wears.

[Whit]

SWIM took MDMA powder for the first time at the weekend just gone.

Been interested in MDMA for a while now and, his close friend was lucky enough to get some reliably good brown crystalline powder for a good price, so he decided now was a good a time as ever.

First thing SWIM can think of to try and describe what he thought is, well, he can't explain how much he enjoyed it. He's been reading about MDMA in depth a good half a year now and he thought he had a prety good insight into what it would feel like. WRONG! His expectations came NOWHERE NEAR the real effect. He understands now why it has the nickname ecstasy!

Only question SWIM has which he wasn't expecting to come across at all (people all react differently, and he's never read about anything like what he's told me) is that the morning after when he woke, his lips where REAL messed up.

THey looked extremely red, like he was wearing a bright red lipstick, they were incredibly red, dry and cracked. He's not sure whether to blame it on some bizare reaction or that it might just be down to that he either un-klnowingly lipped his lips alot, or that he possibly licked his lips in his sleep?

Anyway, SWIM says thanks to all who've helped in this thread and on the forum in general, in helping him ensure that he was safe and sensible about taking MDMA!

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[Ori]

Originally Posted by Whit

Only question SWIM has which he wasn't expecting to come across at all (people all react differently, and he's never read about anything like what he's told me) is that the morning after when he woke, his lips where REAL messed up.

THey looked extremely red, like he was wearing a bright red lipstick, they were incredibly red, dry and cracked. He's not sure whether to blame it on some bizare reaction or that it might just be down to that he either un-klnowingly lipped his lips alot, or that he possibly licked his lips in his sleep?

Its most likely youve just been gurning. Its a normal reaction for many MDMA users. As the jaw tightens Swiy will find himself licking his lips/chewing his lip almost unconciously if hes not looking out for it. For Swim although aware he is doing it, he cannot control the tightening of the jaw, so uses chewing gum to help save his lips from what Swiy has described. In the short term Vaseline should repair your lips within a day or so.

[Whit]

Hey Ori.

Ok I'll tell SWIM, although he was already looking out for gurning and did notice he was doing this without noticing it. Just on the odd occassion he'd be like "whoa, didn't realise I was gurning". Yup, that's exactly what he's done on two counts. Had a huge ball of chewy which he thought was awesome and vaseline has worked absolute wonders compared to the lipsyl I tried at first

He told me he assumed it was him licking his lips, but just wondred whether anyone knew of a bizare reaction lol.

Cheers

[naatural]

i am so jealous of your friend

SWIM bit his tongue (full on, the kind that would make you yell "ow") over half a dozen times in 1 night, not that he's complaining... actually he found it better than gurning on his lips because his tongue didn't feel as sore the next day as his lips on other occasions. In any case gum is amazing

[meep]

Someone said 300mg magnesium would help with the jaw clenching