USA - home searched due to mail orders

[DrugPhreak]

Hhhmmm... I've never heard about this one before. Where can I read (technical details) about it? How large is it? I assume it’s a low level program, but if it’s rather large could SWIY upload it to me once I'm on broadband again, which should be in a couple of days.

[korky8097]

Would NCASE work on macosx or do they use a different program for macs? Swim uses his mac every do often, but would like to run a program similar to NCASE just to see what can be found.

[Police Officer]

Boy, I'll tell ya. It is amazing what the computer guys the Police employ can do. And I'm talking about local small town cops. Importing stuff? Well thats the jurisdiction of the Fed Govt. I cant imagine what the guys they have working for them can do.

[psyche]

I delete any interesting stuff with some special program. No-one of them is bullet-proof, but it takes some serious job from FBI geeks to get out stuff from hard drive that has been erased with some of the most effective file erasure methods. I also crypt files that I wan't to save with blowfish or similar. I think that's bullet-proof method and they really can't get their hands on that stuff without the password.

[INodHardOhYeah]

The only method that SWIM trusts (and this isn't even fool-proof) is one SWIM employed when he was making these little platic things with your picture on them that lets minors get into bars. SWIM took four days coiling copper wiring around a solid steel cylinder, connected to an internal power source, creating a very strong electromagnet with an instant on switch. SWIM had to use it while living in college dorms and heard that a few kids got caught with those little plastic things and may have run their mouths (turns out they didn't), knocked out laptop, ipod, alarm clock immediately. When university police came in all they said was "we smelled weed from outside the door" swim was pissed, and got a dorm write-up (luckily nothing criminal for a small sack sitting out)

[VincentVan]

What a bleeding nightmare man.
Stories like this one really make me thank God for not having being born american.
One really wonders why they want to waste U.S. taxpayers money in these bullshit.
I have never heard of anybody being prosecuted in Europe for buying something on the net, and I know for sure that the practice is pretty widespread.
Has anybody heard of something like that happening in our decrepit continent?

Now some question for TazBeBad, to whom goes my sincerely felt sympathy:
1) You said that you got your medications after an on-line consultation; are´nt you free to choose your own doc? What if you claim that you knew that doc and he enjoys your trust?
2) I can´t belive my eyes . What do you mean by "being indicted on moral grounds"? Is it Illinois or Iran where you are being tried? I simply refuse to belive that anybody in the US could be charged because of the internet sites he visited or the posts he made in any forum. What about the first emendement? What about freedom of information and expression? What did your lawyer say about those fears you had?

Keep us informed TazBeBad , I am very intrested in knowing how your story develops.

VV.

"You´ve got to be a mystic to believe in law enforcement."
(Bill Davidson.-"Indict & Convict")

[TheTrueBlackMeat]

...In Canada, as by the Canada Post Corporation act the postal corporation is not allowed to open letters (not parcels) at all and search them, so long as they do not come in from outside the country. (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-10/22...tml#Section-41)

So, in Canada, if one sends say, a letter from British Columbia to Ontario, the Canada Post corporation cannot legally open it.

If SWIM was running a business and did not want it's shipments to be opened (solely out of respect for the customer's person), SWIM would place the contents in multiple small letter-sized envelopes and use the regular post office.

For example, if someone wanted to send a small token of sugar, flour or sprinkles to a loved one across the country s/he would be able to do so without any legal interference whatsoever. Probably, these letters would never get opened by any nosy people if they got sent almost anywhere in the world.

[kealy]

This is all scary shit!
If Swim was Canadian and would be looking for a bit of xanax. Any advice about the best/less risky way to find/order suppose he have no prescription for it at the moment?

[London_Bloke]

^^^ No, because that would be illegal.

BTW, the first post in this thread is over 2 years old, the most recent was 5 months - old posts have much in common with sleeping dogs.....

However - kudos if you found it using the search engine!

[angeliclight]

SWIM searched for online pharmacies to purchase extra drugs, and each time at the top of the search results (on google) there was a huge warning from the DEA and FBI. This stated that it is illegal to purchase medication online and that if you do, you can be arrested. SWIM deeply investigated different mail order companies and never found one that was helpful. It was a waste of SWIM's time and since SWIM already is prescribed pain meds as a result of major health problems, it wasn't worth the trouble. People are definitely placing themselves in danger with the government by purchasing drugs online. I have to say that this is the best way to force the government to take a dna sample...which you really want to aviod these days. Also,

[angeliclight]

Whoops, I'm sorry, I wasn't done.

I wanted to mention that as far as being tracked and searched etc. I have the newest version of Mcafee and it blocks every unwanted attempt to connect with my computer. Many of these invasions attempt to track keystrokes and map internet addresses. The scary thing is that when I track the IP addresses of these attempts, Mcafee shows you where in the world map these programs are coming from. Many are trying to connect from WASHINGTON DC. That's gotta tell you something.

[snapper]

You're just not looking at it the right way. The US economy sucks, and being good at observing the success of others, who draws the eyes but China. Any why is China a world industrial leader? Cheap labor.
So, you do a good deed all around. Arrest drug users so they can be rehabilitated in Inpatient drug treatment Work camps, and cure their addiction in the process, making them compliant members of society. Economic and social problems solved in one swoop.

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interesting perspective, thanks for bringing this up

[mfrieze]

Wow, that must have been one scary experience that swim hopes he never has to deal with!

[MadShroomer]

tHIS scares swim as swim knows MOM's who use USPS and other vendors that do that stuff. Course its stealth so no worries but I couldn't imagin showing upat the postoffice and they dude's asking me questions aboutmymail. I'dbe like ???that's mine? wierd I won'derwho sent it? but forreal ouch! my heart goes outto you. post what the legal results where if youcan.... :0)

[snapper]

A good purging technique is to remove the hard drive, burn it, and replace it with a new one...Can't retrieve data from that!

[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by snapper

A good purging technique is to remove the hard drive, burn it, and replace it with a new one...Can't retrieve data from that!

Actually a friend of mine in Australia, whose son works for the Aussie military as a computer tech - civilian - told me the following: After a fire has burned up a computer with important data on the HD, the Aussie fire department has come up with a way to retrieve the torched data. I forget the exact temperature needed, but you can place the HD in a freezer until it hits a certain temperature. From there you can get the data back piece by piece - this requiring a few trips to the freezer.

So maybe burning the HD isn't such a hot idea (koff).

How about a 500,000 volt stun-gun applied to each side of the HD?

[TazBeBad]

Just wanted to give an update. Things are pretty quite with me. I am always looking for something to give me that thrill, kinda like driveing fast. This experience has really increased my criminal thinking. I"m always wanting to be bad.

[angeliclight]

Maybe we need to just drop it into a vat of acid huh? I have to say that I've become more and more paranoid lately. It has nothing to do with drugs either. I was engaged to a carrer Army intelligence officer. He works for NSA and when he felt comfortable, he told me he's the French connection. All day long he listens to communications coming from different government and civilian transmissions...anyway...they have a ton of people just "listening" to everyone everywhere. So, you can either not care and go on talking on the phone and online, saying whatever you want...or be scared and destroy everything. You know, our cell phones have gps now...whether we want it or not...unless you have an ancient phone. They can find anyone anywhere within two square feet of where you are. I need to move overseas.

[Nicaine]

Uck... this thread has had SWIM scrubbing his hard drive lately... pretty much every time he sees it, he feels like doing some cleaning...

Originally Posted by angeliclight

You know, our cell phones have gps now...whether we want it or not...unless you have an ancient phone. They can find anyone anywhere within two square feet of where you are. I need to move overseas.

Why, is someone forcing you to use a cell phone? Last time I looked, there are still some pay phones around. Use them instead. SWIM has never owned a cell phone and doesn't feel like he's missing anything (although admittedly he's been out of work for awhile).

[Nicaine]

P.S. this thread + some recent events has been giving SWIM a paranoid feeling... he had a package interdicted by U.S. customs a month or two ago (long story). That plus a more recent non-receipt of product has SWIM worried his name might be on a list now somewhere. Guess he'll find out sooner or later .

[muckvein]

I dont want to alarm anyone, and i'm probably stating the obvious, but if you and I have found this site then hasn't everybody else? Including Ellie? Using the mail doesn't make much sense to me but I don't think that posting here does either. My point is that everyone posting here probably has files on them... they probably even know which hand you... you know... acheive self gratification with. I know how to beat them though. I don't use my hands I dry hump the matress.

[MadShroomer]

lol dry hump the matress lol
i know a fool proof way to erase data from CD / DVD's, place in microwave shiny side up and heat on high for 30 seconds fun 2 watch as well. Perhaps this could be applied to hard disks? that or using a magnit to clean it

[Corksil]

Originally Posted by angeliclight

I wanted to mention that as far as being tracked and searched etc. I have the newest version of Mcafee and it blocks every unwanted attempt to connect with my computer. Many of these invasions attempt to track keystrokes and map internet addresses. The scary thing is that when I track the IP addresses of these attempts, Mcafee shows you where in the world map these programs are coming from. Many are trying to connect from WASHINGTON DC. That's gotta tell you something.

Props for speculation, but DC seems to be a circut for information sciences. IE- lots of data passes through there, but that doesn't mean anything about who's looking at it. Isn't CIA hq in Langley, which is Virginia?

Originally Posted by betsym

Ironically it is some of the very same cops and law enforcement that are busting people for drugs that hold "drug" parties of their own using what else but confiscated drugs! There is rampant abuse of power everywhere in the legal system. "Power" is the drug of choice for those seeking it the most over other people. It's like that power-infused surge of dopamine that swim has heard people get when they do a drug like cocaine. They derive pleasure from that feeling of power, feel unstoppable, and "crave" even more power to keep the good feelings coming. Power is just as addicting any any drug for some people. Of course, if a person really "needs" this feeling of powerover others, then they aren't so powerful after all. If they were, they wouldn't need to stand on everyone else's heads. Their needing this "outward" power is a sign of "inner" WEAKNESS. True power comes from within. No one can have any TRUE power over anyone unless that person LETS them. By that, swim means they can arrest, violate, and totally destroy a person but yet that person doesn't have to let it be a victory for the destroyer because they cannot possess a person's SOUL. Swim realizes what kind of world this is but she knows THE SECRET and predicts that before long that those in "power" will try to ban it's message to prevent it from being distributed and destroy the people who are helping spread the word that YES, there is a choice and that "there is nothing you cannot do, be, or have." Once all people know this, they will understand where true power lies. However, it's getting everyone to understand the concept that will take some time but swim can think of no better reason to learn than to protect oneself from all the Hitlers out there. Sorry if this sounds like a rant but abuse of authority is a sore point. It's a wonder anyone takes any medications at all or that there are any doctors even still willing to prescribe anything because of the crap they have to go through just for the privledge. Well, no one can be forced to become a doctor or a nurse and when there's a shortage of medical personnel because no one wants to put up with all the hassle, there will be a new career opening for witchdoctoring. Let them regulate that.

In my opinion, true power is the ability to control one's actions and one's thoughts. When the thoughts in our heads are subject for investigation, I'm taking my life.

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Actually a friend of mine in Australia, whose son works for the Aussie military as a computer tech - civilian - told me the following: After a fire has burned up a computer with important data on the HD, the Aussie fire department has come up with a way to retrieve the torched data. I forget the exact temperature needed, but you can place the HD in a freezer until it hits a certain temperature. From there you can get the data back piece by piece - this requiring a few trips to the freezer.

So maybe burning the HD isn't such a hot idea (koff).

How about a 500,000 volt stun-gun applied to each side of the HD?

Using electron-microscopes the authorities can recover data tracks on the drives from when the magnet actually wrote the data. Taken to the right place, and paid the right price, it is VERY difficult to erase data in an un-recoverable way.

Originally Posted by MadShroomer

lol dry hump the matress lol
i know a fool proof way to erase data from CD / DVD's, place in microwave shiny side up and heat on high for 30 seconds fun 2 watch as well. Perhaps this could be applied to hard disks? that or using a magnit to clean it

Heh heh, the easiest way to lower the possibility that someone will recover information off the drive is to phsyically make it disappear or damage it to an ir-recoverable state. IE-keep it encrypted, wipe it, reinstall OS and dummy-data, wipe that (using conventional format method to project an image of a feeble wiping attempt,) then destroy the drive.

Even if one was to destroy/hide the drive, there would still be the swap file in the RAM, data in the gfz card DDR cache, and a few other sneaky locations. One can never be fully sure that data is ir-recoverable unless the entire computer is gone.

On a side note, look at the things that were pulled off right in plain sight without getting noticed until buildings fell. There wasn't too much secrecy going on in that objective...

[snapper]

How about one of those high powered magnets (the ones you plug in)?

[Evil GIR]

In my opinion, true power is the ability to control one's actions and one's thoughts. When the thoughts in our heads are subject for investigation, I'm taking my life.

I am statring the underground, non violent organisation bent on disrupting the goverment in any way possible.