First Time Salvia divinorum, not successful but not disheartened - Drugs Forum
Drugs-Forum  
News Groups Blog Forum Chat Video Audio Images Documents Wiki Home
Go Back   Drugs Forum > VARIOUS DRUGS > Ethnobotanicals (Natural drugs) > Salvia divinorum
Register Tags Mark Forums Read

Notices

Salvia divinorum All about using (smoking, eating) & growing Salvia Divinorum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 24-05-2007, 01:34
ukUser ukUser is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 23-05-2007
Location: Manchester
Posts: 27
ukUser is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
First Time Salvia divinorum, not successful but not disheartened

SWIM just had his first try of salvia in a standard glass bong, being a cautious person he only used a very small amount of plain leaf, and did not take a full lung full. Having never smoked anything in his life he was surprised he didn't cough but this probably was due to not taking a full lung full.

He proceded to feel very very slightly light headed, this may be physological though, the first hit he did not get any smoke through at all but the second time he did get some , unforunately he proceded to knock the bong water all over his desk while prepearing to write a forum post it was reddish, is this normal (his bowl pipe is red).

SWIM thinks thats enough for tonight and might try again tomorrow night, does anyone have any advice for SWIM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 24-05-2007, 01:56
Salvinorin A's Avatar
Salvinorin A Gold member Salvinorin A is offline
Salvinorin A is exhausted.
Shaft Master Flex
Donating Gold Member
 
Join Date: 24-01-2007
Location: US
Posts: 816
Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.
Points: 1,990, Level: 6 Points: 1,990, Level: 6 Points: 1,990, Level: 6
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

It's good that SWIY started out with leaves to test SWIY's limits. However, as cautious as SWIY is, taking a small amount of leaf isn't that much.

SWIM advises to definitely take more leaf, and take longer harder hits. Then SWIY can really tell SWIY's sensitivity to salvia.

SWIM likes SWIY's decision of waiting till tomorrow, taking things slow with salvia is the way to go.

Peace.
Sal-A
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 24-05-2007, 03:19
ukUser ukUser is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 23-05-2007
Location: Manchester
Posts: 27
ukUser is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

also, to clean I just rinsed the water that was left from the bong and rinsed through the bowl, is this good enough, it still smells, is that normal.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 24-05-2007, 03:53
Salvinorin A's Avatar
Salvinorin A Gold member Salvinorin A is offline
Salvinorin A is exhausted.
Shaft Master Flex
Donating Gold Member
 
Join Date: 24-01-2007
Location: US
Posts: 816
Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.
Points: 1,990, Level: 6 Points: 1,990, Level: 6 Points: 1,990, Level: 6
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

You mean SWIM cleared the bowl...


Yes that is definitely good enough, it should still work even without cleaning. Cleaning is just so there is good air flow and so it doesn't smell so bad.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 24-05-2007, 21:57
ukUser ukUser is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 23-05-2007
Location: Manchester
Posts: 27
ukUser is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

yeah SYIM doesnt want the smell, as SYIM is at university
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25-05-2007, 03:37
bcubed's Avatar
bcubed Iridium member bcubed is offline
Iridium Member
 
Join Date: 26-02-2007
Location: Between Heaven and Hell w/ Tony Iommi
Posts: 985
Blog Entries: 3
bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.bcubed really knows their shit.
Points: 5,400, Level: 10 Points: 5,400, Level: 10 Points: 5,400, Level: 10
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

Well, SWIY (in reports 1 and 2) might not be smoking enough to get effects.

SWIM started off with 2 hits of 10X and got good results (good as in high but not tripping), and now needs just 1 big hit of the 10X to get him in his "comfort zone" or 2 hits to trip.

Just keep "homing in" on SWIY's ideal dose--it's better than an overshoot for a noob...incidentally, the 2 posts are prob. sufficiently related to just be 1 post...just an idea.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 25-05-2007, 02:27
ukUser ukUser is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 23-05-2007
Location: Manchester
Posts: 27
ukUser is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Second Time

SYIM tried salvia plain leaf again tonight, took what he thought was a big hit, big breathe in, smoke coming from the bong and out his nose and everywhere when he breathed out (after holding for about 15 seconds) but had no effect that he noticed what so ever. What do you think I should try?

1) Same again?

2) More hits? (how does this work exactly, you put more salvia in? and just repeat the whole process again?)

3) Salvia 5x extract?

Also, SYIM is a little concerned that during a hit, some salvia falls through the bowl and into the bong water, this is because the bowl tube is too wide and the salvia leaves are too small I think.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 25-05-2007, 03:38
Salvinorin A's Avatar
Salvinorin A Gold member Salvinorin A is offline
Salvinorin A is exhausted.
Shaft Master Flex
Donating Gold Member
 
Join Date: 24-01-2007
Location: US
Posts: 816
Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.Salvinorin A really adds to the discussion.
Points: 1,990, Level: 6 Points: 1,990, Level: 6 Points: 1,990, Level: 6
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Second Time

"What do you think I should try?"

First of all, you mean SWIM. I'm gonna start giving ya bad rep if u don't figure it out soon my friend.

Anyways. As long as the leaves are in the bong water and not in SWIY's mouth....SWIY is fine.

More hits, hold in the stuff longer. Or just try stronger extract. if SWIM gets not effects from leaves (after trying 1 or 2 more times) then SWIY simply needs higher extract. Probably 10X.

As for more hits. It involves clearing out the bowl and putting in more leaves while SWIY is holding it in. This can be quite tedious and annoying especially when SWIY starts tripping in the middle of it.

Reputation Comments on this post:
  
  good advice
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 25-05-2007, 10:19
Mint boi's Avatar
Mint boi Gold member Mint boi is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: 30-04-2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 824
Blog Entries: 2
Mint boi probably knows what they are talking about.Mint boi probably knows what they are talking about.Mint boi probably knows what they are talking about.Mint boi probably knows what they are talking about.Mint boi probably knows what they are talking about.
Points: 3,361, Level: 8 Points: 3,361, Level: 8 Points: 3,361, Level: 8
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Second Time

swiy should try hold the smoke in for longer than 15 sec, swim finds about 30 sec works, also to maximize the amount salvinorin A in the smoke make sure swiy is burning the leaf properly and perhaps use a butane torch lighter instead of a regular one.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 25-05-2007, 13:13
podge's Avatar
podge podge is nu online
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 18-05-2006
Location: International waters......
Posts: 1,334
podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.
Points: 3,207, Level: 8 Points: 3,207, Level: 8 Points: 3,207, Level: 8
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

Quote:
Originally Posted by ukUser View Post
Having never smoked anything in his life he was surprised he didn't cough but this probably was due to not taking a full lung full.
Perhaps swiy isnt inhaling correctly. It happen's to the majority of people who dont smoke normally.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 25-05-2007, 13:46
ukUser ukUser is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 23-05-2007
Location: Manchester
Posts: 27
ukUser is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2 Points: 197, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

SYIM is breathing deeply and when he eventually breathes out the smoke comes out of his mouth, so he must be surely?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 25-05-2007, 16:40
podge's Avatar
podge podge is nu online
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 18-05-2006
Location: International waters......
Posts: 1,334
podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.podge must live here.
Points: 3,207, Level: 8 Points: 3,207, Level: 8 Points: 3,207, Level: 8
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
Re: First Time, not successful but not disheartened

A lot of people bring the smoke into their mouth but not into their lungs where it need's to be. Swim doesnt know if swiy is doing it right or wrong but swim has seen lots of people not inhaling properly.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TEK - TEK: Salvia Extract w/ pics 0utrider Salvia divinorum 4 09-08-2009 23:26
Salvia divinorum Salvinorin A Drugs-Wiki 3 31-01-2008 06:08
A Prominent Salvia Divinorum Researcher Speaks Out: Letter to Congress Alfa Salvia divinorum 5 14-03-2007 11:39
Home Made Standardized Salvia Divinorum Orbed Salvia divinorum 2 19-04-2005 09:12


Sitelinks: Site Functions:

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:36.


Copyright: Substance Information Network 2003 - 2009, All rights reserved