Originally Posted by ironmics
Hey, didnt mean to offend, but be careful on the self incrimination. Swim
just read a lot about putty being unsmokable which is why he's never tried it. On your second point, raw opium
is pretty easily smokable and swim thinks it tastes really good. Swim's never cooked any of his opium and went through 3 grams in May-June, before he ran out of his source. I wholeheartadly agree that smoking is much safer and easier than eating though. However, eating produces much different effects for him. Smoking usually just results in a nice pleasant the world is alllllll riggggght feeling that only lasts up to 2 hours, while eating gives him an all day(up to 8 hours) more euphoric feeling. However, he knows his dosage pretty well so it becomes much easier to gauge how much he needs.
Great post by the way, but I was a bit confused by it. "Cooked" opium is morphine
salt I always thought, which you reinforced in your first post. Then in your second you state that it's an ambery crystal, but morphine should be a white crystaline powder after cooking, not ambery. Right?
cheers, no offence taken. as you say they do both produce different effects, apparently SWIM prefers the smoke feeling but i guess thats his personal thing.
There is alot of confusion between "cooked" opium and what is also known as "morphine base" because they sell (in asia) cooked opium as mophine base because thats what they call it there for some reason. REAL morphine base (or raw morphine) is actually a precipitate made with lime calcate. its basicly the cooked form of opium disolved back into water. the pH level is adjusted with citric acid and lime calcate is added. of all the alkaloids which are water soluable in opium only morphine will bond with lime calcate so you end up with a beige to white-ish precipitate in the liquid which has absorbed all the morphine, this is true morphine base and not the traditional morphine base which is sold in thai/burma/laos/cambodia etc (and any other opium producing country) this is quite google-able and thru different processes you can even get it to the point of smokable heroin
or even injectable heroin, tho i dont see much point for anyone to do that as the risks are very high. SOIK did that and ended up in ALOT of trouble.
SWIM's personal opinion is that it is more logical to keep in the smallest form possible (i.e. cooked because of a number of reasons. i will list SWIM's reasons here.
1. cooked form is smaller and more concentrated, therefore a smaller amount is needed and used.
2. cooked version is also cleaner and contains mainly water soluable alkaloids rather than alot of the latex
material which contains the alkaloids themselves. (when you do the cooked method, after disolving you will find alot of grey/brown-ish wax like substance, this is the latex byproduct which is useless and adds to what SWIM's opinion is the "bad taste")
The morphine itself is not seperable from the papverine and thebide and codine etc etc etc alkaloids unless the pH is adjusted and lime calcate used, however, its the papaverine and thebide and codine and morphine etc etc etc mixture of alkaloids in the cooked form compound which makes (in SWIM's experience) the true opium experience. But personal preference cannot be discarded as different people like different things, the world would be a boring place if we all liked everything the same. heh.