What is your least favorite drug?

[schwing]

HBWR seeds by far... SWIM's tried it three times in increasingly higher doses (4, 6, 8) and the terrible nausea that he/she got from the latter two trips far outweighed whatever mild euphoria that the seeds gave. Never again.

This is closely followed by kratom which didn't give SWIM much stimulation at lower doses but made him/her feel horribly sick at a higher dose before knocking SWIM out cold for the rest of the day.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by schwing

HBWR seeds by far... SWIM's tried it three times in increasingly higher doses (4, 6, 8) and the terrible nausea that he/she got from the latter two trips far outweighed whatever mild euphoria that the seeds gave. Never again.

Taking care to do a proper preparation to get rid of nausea would have been a good idea. Swim just scraped the seeds, hammered them up, and ate them the first few times as he is lazy and he has never got any nausea from them and the experiences have been enjoyable.

But this isn't the thread to preach. I'm just saying that HBWR seems like a substance you could give another chance as its highly likely swiy doesn't like them because of lack of appropriate preparation method.

[schwing]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

Taking care to do a proper preparation to get rid of nausea would have been a good idea. Swim just scraped the seeds, hammered them up, and ate them the first few times as he is lazy and he has never got any nausea from them and the experiences have been enjoyable.

Actutally that's what SWIM did. SWIM got rid of the outer coating, wrapped it in a bit of paper, beat it with a metal pot (couldn't find the hammer...) until everything was almost powdery. Then SWIM put them into a cup of orange juice and drank the whole thing. SWIM's thinking maybe next time he/she should try to extract the LSA but that seems like a lot of hassle. Maybe SWIM will give it another shot again in the future, they're really cheap anyway.

[keats]

Yeah I can't believe I forgot tobacco, definately at the top of my list. Cigarettes are the worst, but I don't like cigars or even spliffs much either, and after a period of being forced to smoke hookah a lot SWIM isn't a big fan of hookah tobacco either. Also the other dissocociatve I forgot: DXM. Never understood the appeal, I always took pills and I still found it boring, unenjoyable, and hard on my stomach.

[Nature Boy]

Inhalants, low quality street amphetamines and nicotine really don't appeal to SWIM.

In regards to salvia, which many people do not like, SWIM actually enjoys it in some bizarre way. He can't say that he's comfortable when he's under its influence, it's very intense, but the occasional venture into salvia's bizarre little world can be very insightful.

[Skeetastic]

for SWIM, morning glory. SWIM ate up about 8.1g of heavenly blue and he was puking up all sorts of things he had to question ever eating. This was the worst experience for SWIM, although the trip was quite nice afterwards. Still, SWIM will never do that again.

[SHARDSOLDIER]

SWIMS least fav would have to be weed, just saying because how it effects SWIM. SWIM always said "why pay someone else to make me stupid." Iconsider it a disfunctional drug. SWIM also hates MSM, cuz thats mostly what you get anyway when buying ice on the streets these days.

[bl0whydr0420]

there are two swim absolutely despise. nutmeg and diphenhydramine(sp?)

nutmeg- did 3 grams straight from the container. taste like hell, made swim throw up exorcist style, gave swim one nasty headache, severe cottonmouth, and just wasnt that great of a trip

diphenhydramine (benadryl)- took 30 pills (cause didn't know swim was tripping) not able to differentiate hallucination from reality literally driving me insane. feel like you weigh 500 pounds making it hard to move, and alot harder to walk. swim hallucinated his mate comming to his door at 2 in the morning, with his coke mirror when swim went to go do a line, the mirror vanished. after searching for the longest time, it is found (the real, un-hallucinated mirror) but no coke was present (was out at the time).
not to mention was home alone but yet conversed with sister, father, a few friends, and people never seen before (all hallucinations). that'll drive a person crazy in no time. and the day after was VERY depressing, and swim didnt feel at all like normal self.

bleh, very nasty stuff.

[Petethemeat]

3. Salvia- gave SWIM uninteresting visual effects, with a profound sense of unease and a dirty feeling. Has tried ridiculous amounts but never experienced these incredible visuals many speak of.

2.Nutmeg- revolting eating it gave no real feeling aside from sleepiness- no good when you are in a club lol

and no 1- BZP! Very mediocre high, combined with bad dry mouth and loads of paranoia. The come down was horrific- SWIM couldnt decide what to do, couldn't get to sleep, in the blankets too hot, without the blankets too cold, nausea, brain overstimulated yet body exhausted...

[ethacetin]

Wow I guess I found this post a bit too late..haven't been on in a while.
SWIM's *least* favorite drugs would probably be cocaine and amphetamines.
SWIM totally understands how someone could hate cannabis but themself **loves** it. SWIM also loves and really enjoys experiences they get from salvia, DXM, amanitas, datura, dramamine, niacin, nutmeg, 5-MeO-AMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-DMT, huffing solvents, and many other things most people consider disorienting, harsh, scary, unpleasant, etc.
For most substances, SWIM can find at least some redeeming value, and the negative side effects aren't that bad.
When SWIM does cocaine or amphetamines in any form, SWIM gets a frenzied manic "high" that is full or anxiety, scattered thoughts, horrible ego-tripping and id-driven delusions and grandeur. This "high" lasts for maybe a few seconds to a few minutes, and then SWIM spends the rest of the night unable to sleep and freaking out about how much of a jackass they were, chewing their cheeks to shreds, restless energy..cotton mouth..
Then SWIM wakes up with an intense depressive episode that lasts for 2-3 days, in which SWIM finds it difficult to think about anything but suicide and how fucked up and wrong *everything* is and will always be.

SWIM also hates seroquel, celexa, prozac, zoloft, and tons of other drugs the pharmacuetical industry has released in an attempt to cure creativity and free thought. SWIM has never done these drugs but hates them for what they've done to people SWIM loves.

[dccuk]

swim doesnt like weed
used to smoke it alot and loved it back then
quit for a while, still smokes it a little bit for boredom but doesn't enjoy it
and gets extreme munchies
why is this btw? swim used to love it

[wearestardust]

Originally Posted by dccuk

swim doesnt like weed
used to smoke it alot and loved it back then
quit for a while, still smokes it a little bit for boredom but doesn't enjoy it
and gets extreme munchies
why is this btw? swim used to love it

I don't know WHY but there are a LOT of people from my old days who are the same including myself. And that statistic about the chances of having a heart attack rise by about a factor of five in the hour after smoking doesn't help give SWIWAS confidence even to try what is described to him as 'dynamite.' Could well be dynamite to the heart. Pot isn't the same stuff we smoked 30 years ago - it's around ten times stronger for a start, and I have suffered extreme paranoia every time I personally have smoked in the past couple of years. Yet they have downgraded it and it isn't an arrestable offence any more.
SWIWAS thinks that a mistake.
WE R *dust

[antondebeuker]

1. Cocaine. It does nothing for swim, it makes swim nervous, fucked up and craving for more...(thats weird isn't it?)and its also way overpriced.

2. Benzo's. Those make swim feel like a zombie, cause memoryloss, desorientation, nothing fun.

3. Like many, most of the weed today makes swim want to go to bed.
Swim says 'most of', because sometimes, swim finds a bit of the good grass, the stuff that releases the butterflies of inspiration and opens the third eye.
But swim thinks it gets harder and harder to find.
Swim really wonders what's the reason for this.

[Desertfox]

1. Benzos
2. Salvia
3. Cocaine

[Nose Dive]

Tricky one. My Bill extremely dislikes Weed and Speed.

Weed - Has seen it ruin the personallity of too many friends and dislikes the overly mellow feeling with no 'high' and lack of psychedelic properties

Speed - For the same reasons, he has seen it destroy ex-brother in law and warp his sister. Also doesn't appreciate staying up for days, wanting to switch off but not being able to.

[cdin]

Wait. No psychedelic effects from weed? I'm sorry, but you must not have been smoking the same shit SWIM does from time to time - but ask alexander shulgin and others - they don't smoke because it's TOO weird, and we all know what alex is into... not to interject, that comment was just radically off from the experiences of people ive met. Maybe someone should sometime try a gravity bong hit of kif and hash mixed, then come back saying weed's NOT psychedelic.

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good point. weed is certainly a (mild, at least) psychedelic

[scruffyloather]

I don't know how anyone could hate methamphetamine. I mean getting rocked by a double dose of of ice is about as much pleasure as you can feel. The amount of dopamine going through your brain is crazy. How could you not like it? it seems scientifically impossible. The same goes with heroin, however the apathetic outlook that accompanies it can make it unappealing upon reflection.

My least favorite is Marijuana. To me this drug is like the 'goon'/cheap wine of the drug world. I believe that anything that alters brain chemistry in anyway will have a fan base because a lot of people merely wish to live in unreality. This is why people huff paint and sniff petrol. Thus a plant that when smoked makes you think stupid and act embarrassingly is desirable. It's a socially acceptable form of glue sniffing.

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are you seriously equating marijuana use with huffing gasoline...

[gilligan_911]

Swim has to agree with nicotine. it gives you a wee-little head rush for oh.. 20 seconds? and then you smell like an ashtray. and the lovely fact that the usually cost $5 for a pack. weed would be second, but thats only because its an old peoples drug and makes swim very lazy and fat (munchies). stick with the uppers a little birdie told me.

[Nose Dive]

$5? I think that would work out as around £2.50. Over here they're just over £5 mostly depending on your brand.

[RedBaron]

Swim would have to say Ketamine. It made him feel he had no control at all
Incoherency and loss of all motor skills.

[former]

opiates and in general downers. Hate uppers, pretty much coming to the end of a 41 year old experiment...mood altering substances.

former added 5 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...

geez..LEAST favorite.. sorry....Uppers,lost a vein in my arm to speed and it's friends and just in generally hate uppers. and hate people that are on them....mind u I have seen coffee drinkers just as crazed......in general "least favorite" anything that's NOT grown in the ground...but alas.

[Mickeld]

SwIm HaTeS Caffeine SWIM Freaks ouT on caffeine! SWIM DRINKS 3 OR 4 CUPS of IT and SWIM IS UP all NIGHT! SWIM takes CAffEINE PIllS AND SwiM IS on THE FLOOR CURLED in a ball CRYING! CAFFEINE is bad STUFF! in other words I am a tweak enough without the aid of caffeine, with it my world comes crashing down around me and I am left in an abismal hole of doom from which I can never return.:mad :

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	A spastic post that seems a bit immature for this forum. Reply is a bit out of place and annoying. Please try to use dis...
	Please don't type like this, you're making my eyes bleed.
	Where you on caffeine when you wrote this by any chance? Dreadful use of english

[LilithPool]

Any antidepressants/antipsychotics--- being prescribed these since swim was a little kid, going from a 10 mg of zoloft at 8 yrs for social anxiety from 140 mg of prozac, 7.5 mg zyprexa, 5 mg welbutrin, 10 mg lithium by 18 yrs old, these made worse or caused new mental conditions and stopped cold turkey and did fine for a while with a little weed. didn't enjoy these and didn't know they were working unless parents said something about my behavior, bullshit. slept like a log and zombied swims way through life, with occasional panic attacks and suicidal attempts not missing any doses...effin docters... might as well do street drugs at least swim enjoys it.

Alcohol--- swim loves that perfect tipsy feeling social happy carefree and a bit floppy "woo" no nausea, but swim is very sensitive to booze and metabolizes strangely and can't tell how much is too much (anything more than 7 shots may be a trip to the hospital certainly, or date raped...) makes swims say dumb things and vomit if too much, hangovers, not to mention the god aweful taste...beer, wine, liquor, mixed, all nasty will only do shots with chaser. has to be feeling good physically to drink. on average drinks three times a year

Psycheldelics--- shroomed once and will never again, a scary, embarrassing experience and knows because of past traumas and present worries, swim knows swim is prone to a bad trip, pot is sometimes too much! swims wants to know where he/she is at and what is happening, or else swim will freak!

Weed--- self medicates for anxiety and takes some of the uncomfortable edge off meth and helps fall asleep, in very small amounts daily. to much is psychedelic which swim mentioned. feels retarded, awkward, paranoid, strange noises. won't spend much on pot and if swim does, it better be good quality.

[Akashik]

For swim its gotta be DXM and BZP... ugh cant stand em

DXM never really went well with swim, always with the nausea / dizzyness and sickly feeling. Empty or full stomach, pepto or dramamine... no go. NASTYNESS ( o yea, man, the taste of those chemical cherries... / weirdness fuck..)

BZP, swims first time messed swim up bad, he took one pill and waited a bit and said , fuck nothin happenin, so he took another one , and then shit hit the fan , hiding in his house with pills in him scared shitless , eyes bugged out . DAMN! lol

[MisterV]

For SWIM it is weed, Salvia and kratom.

Weed gives SWIM nothing he likes, its boring in his eyes.
Salvia didnt have any good effects even on high doses - same for kratom.

Ther are many herbals SWIM tried, too like skullcap and wild lettuce. There were effects but very little and not worth the money and time invested.

A special is Amanita muscaria. It was very strong but the effects very uncomfortable. Very special with little fear of crashing and dieing. SWIM doesnt know he will ever give a 2nd try on it.