What is your least favorite drug?

[augentier]

Not sure if this has been asked before..but I'm just curious, which drug(s) does SWIY not like at all, and why? for SWIM, it's salvia..it's way too intense and uncomfortable for her..she has smoked it probably about 10 times, many different settings, with different people, and alone, and not one of those times was pleasant!

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I like the thread.

[svenghali]

Maybe nutmeg. SWIM wasn't really treated nicely by it. One mildly-pretty-good experience, two severely disappointing ones. He kind of likes salvia sometimes, not necessarily for the intensity, which can sometimes be fun, but the laughs that come from it, the complete uncontrollable laughter of being tickled by the entire universe.

[wellhelm]

Seriously, don't flame swim. People love it and its the best chance swims got against this "war on drugs" but Swim hates..... Swim is afraid to say. He hates, ok, Swim will do it. He hates weed! Its boring, it makes him paranoid(and swim does lines of coke just fine), it makes him sleepy, and hungry and just all round sucks for swim. Everytime swim hits a j its time to go to bed or veg out on some random couch. Just no fun. A lazy waste of drug money for swim. Swim is afraid to click the "post quick reply".

[trptamene]

I like the thread.

SWIM would have to agree actually...SWIM's first "trip" drug was salvia....he took a few big tokes w/ some regular salvia leaf out of a 2 ft bong and was cast into a world he has never saw, never saw since, and never wants to see again. SWIM was stuck somewhere between total darkness and the corner of his room. When SWIM "came too" he found himself standing on his bed w/ his head stuck in the corner and his ass sticking up in the air, needless to say he has only tried it a few times since & @ much smaller dose and still disliked it.

[augentier]

Originally Posted by wellhelm

He hates weed!

Actually, I was hoping for someone to say they hated weed because I'm very curious to see the reasons why..SWIM hates some aspects of weed (all the reasons you said), which make her want to quit smoking, but she loves other aspects, which always overtake the bad , thus making her a chronic smoker :P

[Bio-Cellular Enigma]

SWIM doesn't particularly care for THC, alcohol, nicotine or caffeine... that about covers the four most popular recreational substances .

Actually SWIM is kidding about caffeine, but he tries not to become dependent on it to the point where he can't function before drinking a morning cup (or three) of coffee. Occasional few beers are nice too, but SWIM has never cared much for the harder stuff.

[Isochrist]

SWIM can't stand the following

5-MeO-DiPT - Horrible body load, no "foxy" feeling at all, just wasnt a good time at all.

5-MeO-AMT - Body load that made foxy look like aspirin, little to no significant psychadelic effects, just wanted it to end.

SWIM also has a love / hate relationship with alcohol, for all of the obvious positive and negative reasons.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by augentier

Actually, I was hoping for someone to say they hated weed because I'm very curious to see the reasons why..SWIM hates some aspects of weed (all the reasons you said), which make her want to quit smoking, but she loves other aspects, which always overtake the bad , thus making her a chronic smoker :P

Swim often feels very ambivalent about smoking cannabis. He has enjoyed it quite a bit over the past years and has no regrets. Still, it got to a point, after a few years daily smoking, where the bad started to overtake the good in swim's opinion. After a run-in with a coke binge swim chilled out for a bit and found that he didn't have much, if any desire to smoke weed anymore. Since then he has been keeping it down, trying to only partake when he knows the setting is good so he will probably enjoy it. Even more-so now, swim is trying to be sure his mental set is good for it and he has a reason to smoke, whether to just chill out a bit because he has actual free time (before it was a question of when he had a free hour, which didn't work great for being responsible) or if he had something to do that would be interesting. Not smoking just because its a thing to do whether I felt bored or not has been much more enjoyable for swim since.

So now swim's view of cannabis has gone back to what it was before, he just thinks of it more as a 'psychedelic' type of experience, rather than just a very benign care-free thing to do such as smoking a cigarette or having a beer. Not that those things don't need responsibility. Swim just found that he had underestimated cannabis as a drug when he was younger and didn't approach it with the respect that he now gives to all other substances.

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Nearly exactly swims evolution with cannabis

[Alicia]

Swia has a dislike for morning glory seeds, holy water, cotton buds,cocaine and crack is on the bottom pile. coffee,

[Veteran Joker]

Someone I know doesn't like the following

Alcohol: Hangover, nausea
Tobacco: Stimulant, nausea
Coffee: Stimulant, nausea.
Cocaine: Nasty, nasty stimulant, makes swim itchy and fighty.
Speed: Collapsed, got stomach pumped. Stimulant, nausea.
Morphine: Got out of hospital with horrible cravings, can't even remember the high.

[Bajeda]

Ah, and forgot to mention swim's least favourite drug. Well, he actually doesn't a least favourite per se, as it can be hard to judge and swim tries to stay away from things he knows he will absolutely hate and regret (nightshades anyone?). But swim would say BZP is down low on the list. Mixing it with alcohol, lots and lots of alcohol, was the only way he could enjoy it at all, and even then it was weird and the hangover even weirder. If he didn't drink alcohol he would get nasty sweats and chills and other weird side effects until he did. Even when mixing it with TFMPP there wasn't anything worthwhile. Now add up the dangers in using this substance, especially with concurrent use of alcohol in an attempt to get more positive effects, and it really isn't a worthwhile substance swim would care to use again.

[enquirewithin]

One of the worst things SWIM can remember is taking a lot of caffeine pills-- dysphoria and sleeplessnes with no high at all! Alchohol has horrible after-effects and makes you act like a fool. Speed turns you psychotic (temporarily anyway) and can have some ghastly sfter effects-- nice euphoria though. Heroin and other opiates are a bit crap-- can be pleasant but bad long-turn effects are no fun and a bit dull.

[theknocker]

Swims least favourite drug has to be cannabis. It leaves him paranoid and unable to sleep. He also hates the dry mouth it gives him.

[podge]

Popper's (or any inhalents really) take the crown of worst drug for swim probably. No idea how people could enjoy it.

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I completely agree with this post. Nobody else seems to mention inhalants

[keats]

SWIM only refuses two drugs unconditionally these days:

Salvia and Ketamine.

SWIM tried his best to enjoy salvia on many occasions (at least 10-15) but has never liked it that much. The only times SWIM can reasonably enjoy it is with a very light trip from some salvia over a bowl or something, but he has never enjoyed a full blown trip at all.

SWIM had mixed feelings about ketamine for a while, but these have turned into full blown bad feelings after SWIM's last experience. After snorting it in moderate doses a couple times and just feeling...weird, SWIM was lucky enough to have a girlfriend with IM needles and a fresh bottle of ketaset. SWIM started with 100mgs had one of the hardest trips of his life, but found it more interesting than enjoyable, and found his girlfriend didn't like the way he seemed when he was on it. As a result SWIM tried it at a higher dose, 140mgs, alone. This may have been the worst trip of SWIM's life. It was just scary, more than the warping visuals it was the feeling of pure confusion that scared SWIM.

I'm sure it's no coincidence both these drugs are dissocociatives, and after a period of regular nitrous use SWIM doesn't enjoy nitrous that much either.

[SatansGod]

SWIM's least favorite would have to be weed. The body high it gives me just is so intense, its uncomfortable. I hate the fuzzy head feeling, along with the just mental retardation it gives you. I do enjoy it here and there, but thats only with certain strains. For some reason, its the only drug i have yet to find my limit on.

[paranoid_android]

Sertraline. Please people, don't flame me for even having considered this a recreational drug. I'd use the young and studpid excuse, but it happened less than a year ago.

The person to whom I am referring (pwiar)* took 300 mg of the SSRI sertraline in an attempt to achieve what others had described as "speedy". The nausea manifested rapidly and eventually turned into full-blown projectile vomit. Pwiar's stomach had been full to the rafters just before he blew chunks, and chunks he did blow.


*Pronounced like a small child would pronounce "prior".

[bcubed]

1. Zyprexa (Olanzipine) was prescribed to SWIM for a period of time. Not only did it make him put on 30#, kill his libido, but at 20mg/day or higher, caused severe cognitive impairment. Example: basically became functionally illiterate. He'd read a sentence and by the end was unable to remember the beginning. After getting off it, the ability to read and enjoy a novel was a great pleasure to him. When he hears others talk about wanting to get "high" off of atypical antipsychotics, his attitude is that he couldn't imagine anything less pleasant.

2. THC SWIM finds a small amount pleasant, and has smoked a fair amount over the years (mostly as a teen), but overshooting the mark causes him serious paranoia and dysphoria, specifically because he perceives his mind as too "messed up" to function. He much prefers Salvia, both because a mild amount is more pleasant, plus if he does too much, not only is it less unpleasant and more in control, its short half-life ensures that he doesn't spend an entire evening too messed up to drive home.

3. Valium SWIM swiped some of his ma's at an early age and was unimpressed. Recently, he had occasion to legitimately use some, and as he had 20mg left over, decided to use it for effect. Basically, all the "body" effects of any downer, but maybe 1/20th of the "high' associated with the depressant he's most familiar with, alcohol. It can be a useful drug, but for getting high, one of the few drugs he'd say simply aren't worth the effort of acquiring.

Just goes to show how much is dependant on the individual. SWIM's ma, for example, detests opiates, which amazes him. A lot of people have mentioned alcohol, which SWIM described to me as heaven on earth. He recently gave it up for a variety of reasons, but all basically due to the fact that he enjoys it far too much.

[Bajeda]

Oh, how could swim forget in his earlier posts! Cigarettes.

[wellhelm]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

Oh, how could swim forget in his earlier posts! Cigarettes.

Indeed! Which reminds me...

[Psych0naut]

For SWIM it's cigarette's as well. They basically don't have any use, they cause cancer and are filled with a whole list of carcinogens, and they don't have any psychoactivity on SWIM. But SWIM was still addicted to them, that's the worst thing.

For the rest, alcohol, SWIM uses it as a solvent for chemicals, and something about drinking a carcinogenic solvent is just not right.
A high doses of alcohol makes SWIM another, very irritating person, it's not euphoric and it gives horrible, hellish hangovers.

Also Salvia, since it makes SWIM psychotic(literally) and doesn't give any visuals to SWIM, only a psychotic episode. For SWIM, smoking Salvia is just straighout useless, and he won't do it again, that's for sure.

[Heretic.Ape.]

One time when monkey was bored he took a bottle of dramamine or something. That was awful. No cool effects, just plain confusion and odd hallucinations that were arbitrary and totally convincing. Fell asleep watching a movie thinking "I don't remember this movie being about this" due to all the dialogue changing once he closed his eyes.
Monkey also isn't too fond of pot as he tends to feel stupid and anxious after smoking (not so much after eating it though), and only wants to watch a movie or something--and maybe order a pizza. But he wouldn't say he dislikes it per se, it's just not something he likes to do regularly these days.
Yeah, and nicotine is horrible because it's so damn addictive, doesn't do anything great for you, and ruins your health. Monkey is going to quit one of these days...all time least favorite.
Edit: Strike the cannabis comment, monkey smoked for the first time in a while out camping and it was wonderful. Guess he just needed a break to raise hedonic value.

[schwing]

HBWR seeds by far... SWIM's tried it three times in increasingly higher doses (4, 6, 8) and the terrible nausea that he/she got from the latter two trips far outweighed whatever mild euphoria that the seeds gave. Never again.

This is closely followed by kratom which didn't give SWIM much stimulation at lower doses but made him/her feel horribly sick at a higher dose before knocking SWIM out cold for the rest of the day.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by schwing

HBWR seeds by far... SWIM's tried it three times in increasingly higher doses (4, 6, 8) and the terrible nausea that he/she got from the latter two trips far outweighed whatever mild euphoria that the seeds gave. Never again.

Taking care to do a proper preparation to get rid of nausea would have been a good idea. Swim just scraped the seeds, hammered them up, and ate them the first few times as he is lazy and he has never got any nausea from them and the experiences have been enjoyable.

But this isn't the thread to preach. I'm just saying that HBWR seems like a substance you could give another chance as its highly likely swiy doesn't like them because of lack of appropriate preparation method.

[Nature Boy]

Inhalants, low quality street amphetamines and nicotine really don't appeal to SWIM.

In regards to salvia, which many people do not like, SWIM actually enjoys it in some bizarre way. He can't say that he's comfortable when he's under its influence, it's very intense, but the occasional venture into salvia's bizarre little world can be very insightful.