Any good????

[Gurnie]

I found this shop which sells herbal XTC, trips and speed. I haven't heard much about them at all and would think theywould beshitcoz they aren't the real thing but I don't know. Has anyone tried any of this stuff, is it any good???

[geordie]

theres a lot of leagal drugs out there which can do the trick nicely, unfortunatle the leagal herbal high's arent all that good.

[Gurnie]

Well that's abit of a bummer

[Alfa]

I disagree. There are a lot of lousy herbal drugs out there, but there are some good ones.

[Gurnie]

Really? Well might aswell give em a go sometime then, thanks.

[Tony Blair]

Let us know how you get on!

[Maxamillion]

I have never had any luck with herbal xtc's that I have bought...maby I have bought the wrong one's....sorry- I don't remember the brand names.....some made me dizzy.....some gave me headaches....I never had a real good experience on the ones I tried.

[matti_2003]

I had some called CAPS once. i was drinking on them as well (probably not a good idea). They weremt too bad on the night but the next morning i felt horrible and threw the rest away.

[Slug716]

Anyone Ever Try These Pills Called Druids Fantasy ?



I Tried Them Once Just Made Me Sick And Puke

[msumegi]

I have never tried a herbal XTC that worked xcept for EXplosion. It is legal and I bought it from the Neatherlands. There are herbs theat work but you're better off finding out which herb you want and buying the actual plant instead of a herbal XTC in a pill

[PenguinPhreak]

Just for the recond Explosion contains Methylone, and is therefore not an herbal xtc.

[Alfa]

Caps is really explore XS, which contains a high amount of pseudoephedrine and methyl-ephedrine. I must have consumed a bucket full of those things over the years. Da good stuf IMO. Note that there are several suppliers offering products under the name explore xs. The good stuf came from the US, not from the Netherlands.

[Cuberun]

"The active ingredients are morning glory seeds and Hawaiian Baby woodrose seeds along with some herbs like Kava Kava and Calamus. It felt similar to MDMA but without the crappy comedown."

Similar to MDMA? I find that hard to believe.
I've tried a couple herbal xtc's and they've all been duds really.

If you want something similar to speed/mdma your best bet is to find some "Kandi" which is a bzp / tfmpp mixture. It won't be CLOSE to the real thing but beats herbal xtc's by far... There are many different brands (for what is the same thing) but this seems to be the best one. It works well but don't over do it else you'll end up with a veery long crash.

It's illegal in Europe but not in New Zealand. By this I'm assuming that you would get speed or MDMA if you had a source for it.

Also for Alfa, you seem fairly knowledgeable in these herbal highs. Could you mention some "brands" which haven't been total duds? Maybe I've just been unlucky to pick the wrong ones or just don't react to them at all. Generally I have good reactions from all sorts of substances and I'm not overtolerant.Edited by: Cuberun

[GreyApple]

NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING COMPARES TO MDMA Im sorry but dont waste yor time and mony on this fake bullshit just my 2 cents

[oldman]

I think apple is right and I've tried some. the most I ever get is that feeling that your hair is growing and insomnia and thinking why did I take that shit. I recently saw an add for "SPIKE", is supposed to be the newest craze. They don't even tell you what's in it. Is that even legal?

[Cuberun]

Originally Posted by oldman

I think apple is right and I've tried some. the most I ever get is that feeling that your hair is growing and insomnia and thinking why did I take that shit. I recently saw an add for "SPIKE", is supposed to be the newest craze. They don't even tell you what's in it. Is that even legal?

Hehe, same here. Once I got the nice effect of feeling the need to urinate but couldn't. I got suckered by reading reviews and experiences on forums which had probably been posted by people who sell the stuff..

[trippy420]

I tried the druids fantasy. I took 2 doses which is 12 pills. I started to feel a little funny but then i just got real sick and threw them up. Maybe next time i will try taking them in smaller doses like betsym said.

[Alfa]

My favorite ones are Caps / explore XS combined with Liquid Ex or liquid E (the one with the silver sticker) Both are hard to find nowadays. Indeed NOT MDMA, but a nice alternative to chemical party drugs. And without hangover or rebound. The old space cadets where great, but the ingredient which prevented sickness became illegal to use and now it indeed just makes you trow up. 'Yellow Jacket' is a good speed rush like herbal. So fuckin strong that I was amazed at the strength. I highly suspect it to be spiked with something. Note that some production runs cause some naussea. I complained about his one time and they told me that it was because the producer used a different ingredient in some batches.

[Sektor]

be warned though, taking bzp etc will either stop you from sealing the deal whilst fucking, and in some worse cases, stop you from getting hard. no shit

[xpr´k]

Originally Posted by Sektor

be warned though, taking bzp etc will either stop you from sealing the deal whilst fucking, and in some worse cases, stop you from getting hard. no shit

high dose MDMA does the same for me .

[Richard_smoker]

I guess george dubbayou crashed the old party with herbal highs by banning the ephedrine in supplements...


because I remember some pretty good times (even though they were WAY overpriced) with something called Xphoria. they were red TABLETS (not caps) and SWIM sold them individually as speed pills. They did not have the typical ephedrine quality to them, but definitely were good and speedy.


This was the first of many cases where some dumbass kid in florida took 20 of them (recommended dosage was 2-3 tabs max) and died.


They had this VERY distinctive labeling (red w/people from the '50's dancing and talking to each other in bubble letters--like a comic book)... so, after the government shut down the company, they came back under a different name, different company, different delivery (now herbal-looking capsules), but the same old red package with people from the '50's talking in cartoon!


I can't remember what these were called, but we just called them Xphoria because is was the same shit. Damn, I miss them. I remember they had all kinds of ingredients including ephedra, guarana (of course) and some other weird things like black ginsing? root, yohimbine and passionflower extract...


maybe someone could make their own similar experiment with ephedrine, caffeine, black ginseng, passionflower extract, and MAYBE yohimbine (although I wouldn't recommend playing around w/yohimbine... it can make you feel REALLY weird, and overstimulated because while the ephedrine is stimulating one type of adrenalin receptor, the yohimbine is stimulating the other adrenalin DE-regulating receptor. In other words, they're working together to pump you WAY up!!! kinda like the stupid idea of mixing MAO Inhibitors with speed, tyrosine, or wine/cheese.


By the way, tyrosine actually works in the body as an adrenergic stimulant. DIRECT receptor stimulant--like ephedrine, unlike amphetamine (indirect receptor stim). So, if your body is immune to tyrosine, this one's GREAT for juicing up a good time.

[Richard_smoker]

I'm sorry, I mis-spoke in that earlier post.


MOST EVERY type of 'herbal x' was/is way overpriced.


But the Xphoria was only about $30 for a 20 pack... probably why some dumb/illiterate kid ate 20 of them at once and died... because with the original "herbal ecstacy" you had to take the whole package at once. thanks kid. RIP.

[Richard_smoker]

Alpha, is this what you're talking about?
Explore XS
First Herbal ephedra free ecstasy stimulant that outperforms. Its true. Better than the original! We all know that eXplore was the best product ever created. Now Explore XS is an amazing advancement in ephedra free formulation and only Biotrek knows the extraction and alkaloid profiling to accomplish such an amazing product.
Explore XS with Sida Cordifolia is now the strongest product that Biotrek labs produce. It is slightly stronger than the original Explore and all users loved it. You should have seen the sex emanating from the girls on the dance floor. Smiles, love, energy, and passion. Explore XS makes for an incredible night and a great day.
Suggested use: Usual dosage is 1-2 capsules Explorer XS 30-45 minutes before activity

and is this the liquid ex you were talking about?

and, finally are these thesame space cadets??
Package says Space Cadets are an uplifting natural and legal psychedelic, that will take you to another dimension. Space Cadets contain a mind expanding mix of a natural source of D-lysergic acid amide, together with herbal stimulants, to take you to a new realm of consciousness. Giggly, surreal, and paranoia free.
I guess this is "explode": complete with NO INGREDIENTS! ha
FINALLY (I swear no more pics)... is this the liquid e you speak of?If so, all these are available by simple google searching. I just don't trust anyone because of the ephedrine ban... I can only assume that they all suck now because ephedrine is no longer with us... and I can only guess that the piperazine blends will not be shipped to the US.

[snapper]

Sida cordifolia is a really good source of ephedrine and is still easy to
find. Better than Ephedra, IMHO. Synephrine is another alternative, often
sold as orange peel extract.
It is indeed better just to get the ingredients of these products - then you
can have a more consistent ned product. None of these match up to the
real thing, though..

Snapper

[Richard_smoker]

nice... thank you.


I have been wondering what Sida cordifolia was. I noticed in just about everything.


the funny thing about US law that I just realized recently, is that although ephedra-containing supplements can no longer be sold, it is still legal to sell PURE ephedrine HCl in the 25mg/200 guafenesin tabs OTC in gas stations and truck stops.


as long as I can remember the first mini-thins and max-alerts were ALWAYS sold as bronchodilators, NEVER as stimulants. So, that's why you still see ephedrine tabs in the gas stations. they weren't touched by the 'ban.'