Drugs and Chaos Magic / Mind Tricks

[smallviller_hero]

New to forum so sorry if this has already been posted but has anyone ever been a victim of it or like most people have you no idea what I am talking about?

[fnord]

no idea,youd have to elaborate

[emineo]

Imagine yourself among strangers. You've just met them; literally walked into their life minutes ago.

Circumstances aside, you eat some acid and begin tripping.

You are reminded that you know nothing of who they are. No knowledge of their history or associations.

Not long thereafter, these strangers reveal to you that you feel into a trap.

They tell you that they are killers and your fate is sealed.

There's also a movie with Michael Douglas in it called The Game. Same topic but can't remember if it involves mind altering drugs or not.

[Pinkavvy]

sounds like fucked up mind games ... but not chaos magik, son. :P

Chaos Magik ... that Pope Swip practices is much more powerful both in His head and the imaginary world, read you, that surrounds it.

But, swip has seen some fucked up mind games played on many people, and has to admit to being one of the assholes in the past.
There was this kid. He was on a strange path. A path that looked odd from the paths Pope Swip and his friends were on. This kid was militant and was on his way to the military. Rather than being concerned for his life, and the brainwashing that would definately be coming to him, or for his family ... his concern rather was that may be sodomized in boot camp. He was afraid that since he was a smaller guy that he may be victim of assrape. Pope Swip and friends came across this kid spouting off his concerns at a party... where that kid was the only person sober. After sharing a sacred hotdog with NO FUCKING BUN with the kid, Pope Swip explained to him that he will be ex-comunicated if he looks sideways again. The kid looked sideways towards the bottle of acid that was being passed around. The kid attempted to convince the owner of the vile that he had never done drugs but wanted to do some acid so he could find himself. So the kid got dosed. Dosed, and then taken for a ride. As the kid sat in the back of the car that had been driving around dark back roads for two hours now he intently listened to Pope Swip rant about thee vortex ov realIty. After being silent for a while, the silly kid started talking about his fear of being sodomized in the military again. Bored from the silly concerns, the car was quiet for a good 10 minutes. As the good Pope's friend slowed down near a corn feild, Pope Swip turned to the kid and with a as-serious-as-can-be-on-10-hits-of-acid face asked the kid "Have you ever woken up on the side of the road naked with vasaline all over your sore asshole?" the kid slowly said "no" and let out a nervous giggle. All at once the Pope and his 3 friends said "you're about to" as the car pulled over. The kid started crying and admited that his true fear was that he thinks he is homosexual and that he would be discovered in the military.

Silly games. The kid ended up crying on the Pope's shoulder for the next hour or so and all turned out well... with no sodomy. The kid now 7 years later is a very outgoing gay-rights activist in their hometown and owns one of the most popular gay/bi clubs in the area ... and is a much more balanced and happy person.

[Alicia]

Swia loves her mind games no matter what the state shes in the others sure as hell dont. but is'nt that the point.

[enquirewithin]

Chaos magick? As far as I know, it not supposed to be for messing around with other people's minds but for self meta- progamming.

[Pinkavvy]

your magik is your own. NLP, Meta-programing, programing one's reality, etc are all tools in the chaos of magik. simply impacting your will on the reality as you see it is the most powerful magik of all.

Thought Virus.
all thoughts are virus'
spread through words and expressions of art
and love
and hate
and you
and I
a Wizard can spin a web
of patterns and interactions
words and art and poetic terrorism
of the mind and eyes
and ears that hear not just what the filters chose
that web can be your reality
or the wash of your mind
a Wizard understand his magik is silly
but spins his web for his enjoyment
and perhaps it will cause a spark of thought
or emotion
or infect the mind of even one other
and the virus is spread

[Micklemouse]

Unfortunately Pink in the UK there has been almost a tradition of people playing with Chaos Magick & tools such as NLP without the respect & intent it deserves for some time, & yes, many people have used this for ill-intent & mind games. Many have taken "Do What Thou Wilt..." to mean "Do Whatever The Fuck You Like, & To Hell With The Consequences, To Self Or Other", forgetting that with Power comes Responsibility - remember that few Responsible people actually seek out Power, & often those that do have a hard time handling it without becoming Corrupted. Another thing many forget is that while Magick is the art of working with One's will to impact on the World around Them, other people have Wills of their own which may skew the intent, & more importantly The World has her own will, & will only take so much bullshit before dealing out some of her own in return (and as we are after all part of The World, this should really be glaringly obvious. Unfortunately for many it isn't). Forget The Balance & things go quickly wrong.

A Certain Mouse has known on a personal level & nursed on a professional level several people over the years who have lost the plot & taken others down with them through ill advised & untutored dabblings with energies that they had no place dabbling with, invoking energies that they couldn't handle, which have then turned around & slapped them hard, & at times those around them by association. It's rarely pretty. He's seen variations of SWiP's story that were not done with Love, Care or Responsibility that have ended in serious attempts to harm both Self & Others.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Micklemouse

A Certain Mouse has known on a personal level & nursed on a professional level several people over the years who have lost the plot & taken others down with them through ill advised & untutored dabblings with energies that they had no place dabbling with, invoking energies that they couldn't handle, which have then turned around & slapped them hard, & at times those around them by association. It's rarely pretty. He's seen variations of SWiP's story that were not done with Love, Care or Responsibility that have ended in serious attempts to harm both Self & Others.

The mind set with some of this described reminds swia of "wiccan" "witchcraft"
or the supposed thoughts behind that. The end results with this kind of thing are not pretty in reference to there mental state. if they mess about with it to much. what goes out 3 times comes back 3 times is that karma or the wiccan idea with that.

If swia is on the right track please say or if this is referring to others things please educate. Just some of what swia has read reminds her of her friends used to teach when she was young.

[fnord]

where that kid was the only person sober. After sharing a sacred hotdog with NO FUCKING BUN with the kid,

for such was the solace of Eris.nice story brother pope!

if you guys haent seen what the beelp do we know AKA down the rabbit hole. yet check it out its all about quantum physics and how ones mindset/will changes the world around you

[smallviller_hero]

just kinda thinking that although people may use these abilities with the intent of hurting someone else, you can actually view it as a positive aspect. instead of being a victim SWIM could use the experience to grow and become a better person. and in return get satisfaction of the 3 X 3 law.

[Micklemouse]

True, but only if one has the strength & awareness to suss out what these tosspots are doing. Unfortunately they will also see if one has those qualities & avoid trying to play their little games with someone who might give them a run for their money, call them out or bring what they are doing to the attention of others, preferring instead to prey on the vulnerable, who will often see them for a time at least as some sort of guru figure.

It is all about the balance between power & strength - these people have tapped into power but do not have the strength to use it wisely. A person with strength does not need to play with power in this way, but is secure in the knowledge that What Will Be Will Be, & then for a reason. A person with strength that plays with Power is more likely to respect that Power & use it in a way that will not negatively impact others. A weak person using Power is more likely to use it to make them feel strong by seeking out the vulnerable to play with, which is a terrible thing. The Law of Threefold Return does not always hold true & should not be relied upon - it should not have to be invoked at all.

[Euphoric]

True, as SWIM understands it the threefold law is just a made-up law used in attempt to encourage "good" magick and discourage "bad" magick, when in reality, people would not likely use bad magic if this were true. Heh, Not that SWIM really believes in magick, he's just heard/read a smidgeon of the theory. And if someone believes in the threefold law, then they are likely to look for events that they could attribute to a return of their doings. SWIM would say this is in their head, like when someone thinks they're cursed.

[smallviller_hero]

so whats a good way to dispell the mind tricks?? for a SWIM, use protection and stuff. When Someone was doing a mind trick on a SWIM protection was used andthe guy stopped being a cunt and was slightly friendlier, but its hard to protect SWIM when your off SWIM's tits. You just forget.
And certain mind trick people seem to hang around in certain clubs.... like vampires.

[Heretic.Ape.]

My monkey always tells me that if you do not have the humor, skepticism, and established equanimity of mind to let crazy shit slide by or recouperate quickly then you shouldn't be messing around with magick or psychoactive substances, and definitely not the combo of the two. He says that if you don't take yourself too seriously then you the world is your oyster. It takes a lighthearted fool to juggle alternate realities with any success. Also, the obvious solution to avoiding falling into such situation: don't trip with assholes.

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[smallviller_hero]

fine by SWIM as long as they would leave him alone but they dont when SWIM goes to certain places, SWIM needs to aviod them and cut on the drugs

[svenghali]

SWIM has played these on certain people when they came to his house uninvited, as a year or two ago, there were regular acid/mushroom tea/god knows what else gatherings about his home. Some really amusing results, SWIM can easily say. One ran out screaming when SWIM and his friends were re-dosing with some tea as they peaked, and we let him in on the fact that my father was Charles Manson and we were all about to kill ourselves by drinking cyanide.

[Voices]

Not responsible for minds lost or stolen.

(remember old RKL?)