LSA(Morning Glory seeds) q’s

[Herbal Remedy]

Is it legal to order morning glory seeds from a website or online auction? The ones ive seen are called heavenly blue, i was just wondering if these are the strain or whatever needed for lsa? can lsa be detected on a drug test? is it easy to trip or estract lsa? thanks a lot for any replies, im jsut curious is all.

[discobloodbath]

yes it is legal to order morning glory seeds. The most common active varieties of seeds are Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates, and Flying Saucers. I'm not to sure about the drug test part.. If its like acid than i believe they could if they wanted too but most drug tests dont test for lsd, its too much money (or time) so i figure it would apply to lsa... heres the way i've done morning glory: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=4371 ... i made sure to used distilled water and had to find my personal dosage... it works but lsa has its pros and cons

[psyko79]

LSA is like LSD, but it's not the same thing. When you get over the nausea and stomach cramp, you can get very strong hallucinations like you can get nothing.

[GuUg7]

As far as drug tests go I don't think they test for LSA. It'slegal, so why should they? It's like testing for DXM, there is no point because you can't get in trouble with the law for it. It says at erowid that LSA isn't tested for in standard or extended drug tests, but is possible to test for. I'm not familiur with drug tests but unless they can do specific tests, its not even going to be mentionedat a test. Which brings me back to my point... if they don't test in standard or extended tests then they're not going to go through the extra trouble just to find out if you've been using something legal.


And for tripping, you can get morning glory or hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Morning glory you need at least 200 seeds, more then 300 for an actual 'trip', and only about 10 hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. The problem with woodrose is they can make some people feel sick. You can find either anywhere on the internet or in a plant/gardening store. They shouldn't be to hard to find if you live in a big town/city.


Good luck.

[discobloodbath]

while morning glorys are legal, lsa is Schedule III in the usa, just had to point that out

[discobloodbath]

and he was just curious about the testing, yes while drug tests mostlikely will not search for lsa or lsd, its still possible and thats the point... i'm sure they'd only test if your caught trying to extract or makeing lsa brew, that would be reason enough 4 a test since its illegal i'd imagine

[dr ACE]

you can make lsd form lsa if u have a degree in chemistry

[GuUg7]

I read about that a while ago.Found a procedurehere: http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/lysergic.amides.html


I understand some of it with very basic chemistry but I would like to take more chemistry just so I can learn stuff like this


And disco I knew he was curious I was just... answering a question with another one.

[Herbal Remedy]

hey thanks a bunch guys, info helped alot.

[Oscar]

Hello all, long-time reader first-time poster.

I have a question regarding Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and the LSA they contain.

On Erowid it says that LSA is not usually tested for, but it can produce a false positive on a test for LSD. Whilst I understand the typical detection periods for LSD, Erowid doesn't seem to know much about the detection periods for LSA. Now, I would assume that it will follow a very similar pattern due to its chemical similarity, but I wondered if anyone knew for sure?

How long does LSA stay in your system for it to potentially interfere with a standard test for LSD?

(I appreciate that LSD is not usually tested for on standard employment/insurance screening, but sources I have read seem to point to the fact that they are becoming cheaper to administer and increasingly widespread as a result.)

Many thanks in advance

[AbbaZaba]

Originally Posted by Oscar

Hello all, long-time reader first-time poster.

I have a question regarding Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and the LSA they contain.

On Erowid it says that LSA is not usually tested for, but it can produce a false positive on a test for LSD. Whilst I understand the typical detection periods for LSD, Erowid doesn't seem to know much about the detection periods for LSA. Now, I would assume that it will follow a very similar pattern due to its chemical similarity, but I wondered if anyone knew for sure?

How long does LSA stay in your system for it to potentially interfere with a standard test for LSD?

(I appreciate that LSD is not usually tested for on standard employment/insurance screening, but sources I have read seem to point to the fact that they are becoming cheaper to administer and increasingly widespread as a result.)

Many thanks in advance

Welcome Oscar,
The amount of LSD required in a sample for a positive result will probably be swiy's saving grace. They are testing for amounts that show recreational use of LSD, the most potent of the Lysergic acid amides, in which a good street dose would be 200-300 ug.

So when swiy uses MG seeds, you are taking a combo of many LSA's and I'm pretty sure the total amount of Lysergic acid is usually less than an avg LSD dose(200-300 seeds). As swiy probably learned from LSD, they are all fragile molecules, and should clear out in about a week. Exercise and water will increase swiy's chances.

Now, something that I am not as sure of is that the LSA's will remain in your cerebrospinal fluid for a good bit. Not to worry though, unless you join the armed forces. Anyone who might know anything about this, please chime in. I'm curious too.

AbbaZaba added 3 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...

PS. Saw some Q's about LSA legality- it's becomes illegal once you extract it!

[Oscar]

Cheers Abba

The only issue swiy has is the prospect of hair testing. There seems to be conflicting reports on the web regarding LSD and whether or not it is absorbed into the hair follicles. Some say it isn't, some say it is.

That said, given LSA follows a similar chemical pattern to LSD and can produce a false positive, if it too can be absorbed in the hair and trapped in the shaft then the MG seeds ingested could give a positive test on LSD use for the entire duration of the hair's length.

All in all, it seems that MG seeds do not offer a legal (at least from a testing perspective) alternative to standard LSD.