Opinions - Does anyone like Ketamine AND DXM?

[Beltane]

SWIM's likes Ketamine more than can be put into words. But usually a Ketamine run involves a drive to Mexico and a week of using and recovery.

So he starts reading about DXM, reads the FAQ and decides to go for it. He drinks a 4 oz. bottle of syrup with the single active ingredient of Dextromethoprphan HBr, USP 15mg/5ml. So 118ml/5ml= 23.6 5ml dosages of 15 mg each for a grand total of 354mg of DXM. SWIM is 170 lbs. and estimates this to be a good first plateau experience dosage.

Experiment on empty stomach. Slams 80% of bottle immediately. Drinks remainder over next 20 min. An hour in he's hungry and eats a very few almonds. He waits, and waits, and waits. He gets some very lame-ass, closed-eye visuals. He's bored. He'd rather be asleep, but he can't sleep. But not in a fun, amphetamine-ish amped way, just in a boring can't sleep kinda way. Can't sleep all night and couldn't be more disappointed or bored, probably because he was hoping for something resembling a K-trip.

Finally morning comes and he calls a friend and they drive to Mexico and binge on K for a few days to overcome the massive disappointment of his first DXM experiment.

Now he reads further and sees that it's 3rd or 4th plateau DXM experiences that resemble K-trips. But DXM at these levels seems hit-or-miss from experiences he's read, it's more expensive and it's possibly (probably) unhealthy.

So the question SWIM really wants an answer to is: are there any serious K-afficianados who also enjoy DXM? And if so, what did SWIM do wrong? Anything info that allowed SWIM to experience K-like trips by just walking to the grocery store would be greatly appreciated.

- Beltane

[fnord]

if your experianced with K you need alot more dxm dose 450mg wait an hour dose again and again a hour later as needed swim can only metabalize so much dxm at once so over a certain amount is a waste,just keep doseing 400ish every hour after 3 hours swiy should be fine.also wait till you feel like tis the peek of your secodn dose and smoke a joint/whatever dxm kicks in alot harder after smokeing pot,or maybe its the pot that kicks in harder on dxm?swim knows the only time he ever got a effect from anadananthra colabrina was on dxm.but wait untill your peeking on your second dose to smoke,trust me its worth it!

[Beltane]

SWIM doesn't smoke pot. He doesn't like it.

So you're saying someone like SWIM who is a very experienced K user would do 450mg at midnight, 450mg again at 1:00am and another 450mg at 2:00am?

SWIM spent the cost of 2 100ml Ketamine shots for the 350mg DXM bottle he drank. That means SWIM's looking at about 80% of the cost of a 10ml bottle of Ketamine for the above dosage schedule. How long might SWIM expect to stay high after such a 3 dose DXM procedure?

With everything SWIM reads about possible health concerns with DXM, imprecise dosage administration and potetential for bad trips, he becomes more certain that Ketamine is hands down better than DXM, period.

Still open to hear more info from SWIY though.

- Beltane

[Paracelsus]

Umm, 3 x 450 mg (1350mg) is quite a large dose of DXM (even if taken over the course of 3h), and can probably be handled by an experienced K user. But it will be very hard on the body and it would be unwise to take such a high dose without knowing how one's body reacts to DXM.

If SWIY was dissapointed with a first plateau dose (many people, including SWIM, can't really enjoy first plateau DXM doses), maybe he can try a medium-to-high second plateau dose (4-5 mg/kg) before further experimentation.

[LookingForHer]

Originally Posted by fnord

if your experianced with K you need alot more dxm dose 450mg wait an hour dose again and again a hour later as needed swim can only metabalize so much dxm at once so over a certain amount is a waste,just keep doseing 400ish every hour after 3 hours swiy should be fine.also wait till you feel like tis the peek of your secodn dose and smoke a joint/whatever dxm kicks in alot harder after smokeing pot,or maybe its the pot that kicks in harder on dxm?swim knows the only time he ever got a effect from anadananthra colabrina was on dxm.but wait untill your peeking on your second dose to smoke,trust me its worth it!

Seriously dude.... redosing is a bad idea. Why?

Because on DXM... you can FORGET how much drug you've taken, and not have any clue about how much you are about to take!

Originally Posted by Paracelsus

Umm, 3 x 450 mg (1350mg) is quite a large dose of DXM (even if taken over the course of 3h), and can probably be handled by an experienced K user. But it will be very hard on the body and it would be unwise to take such a high dose without knowing how one's body reacts to DXM.

If SWIY was dissapointed with a first plateau dose (many people, including SWIM, can't really enjoy first plateau DXM doses), maybe he can try a medium-to-high second plateau dose (4-5 mg/kg) before further experimentation.

I agree.

1st plateau is kinda boring, not much different than being sober in fact!

2nd (or a high second) is good for partying actually!

3rd is totally different. It's just sooo different. Don't do it at a party, you won't be able to socialise, or even move around well

4th... you'll be lying on the floor.

[God_Albino]

redosing only produces confusion and makes you forget the experience. unless swims going for sigma mindfuck, one big dose is key.

swim never had a good redosing experience over 5 years of heavy dexxing

[khrma]

SWIM likes all dissociatives including K and DXM. SWIM thinks though that with DXM you cannot get the strong K-hole effect so easily, more like the dreamy feeling you get when you come out of peak on K, so SWIM doesn't know if DXM will be good for a K-only fan. SWIM would try something along the lines of 600mg of DXM (or possibly more), wait an hour after dosing, and a half hour after the high comes on and then use some other sort of drug (prefered would be weed) to push the DXM up a few levels. SWIM thinks you could also do a bump of K at that point, maybe SWIY you be able to make you goods lasts longer that way.