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Old 28-04-2007, 15:35
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

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There is no reason to arrest people who can't handle drugs but do them anyway. We've seen over and over that addicts don't get better by being treated as criminals. We don't arrest alcoholics, so why arrest people addicted to other drugs?
The addicts(of whatever sunstance) needs to figure out things for themselves. They will need help and support of course, but the decision to do or don't do drugs must come from themselves.

As for drug licenses; though I think it would be a good idea to educate people about various substances, giving them a certificate stating "this person knows how to handle dope" would be to set the same people up for a fall. It might make them think "well I can take Heroin, after all, I got an A+ on my heroin course". It's one thing reading about it, but quite another thing to actually do it.
yes, this is what i was trying to get at: how would it be controlled? i mean, gun licenses dont stop ppl shooting people, so how would a controlled drug system work, with regards to the assumption that not all "licensed drug users", would actually be responsible?

and to baudmax, thanks for clearing up something that should have been obvious to me(doh), in that if police stopped looking for ALL drug users, and just the dangerous ones, they would be able to use their resources more efficiently, even though, i believe this is already in place, at a basic level, ie: police dont really bother the harmless ones(at least in swims experience, hes never been arrested for his various possesions/but this might be because hes still young, and they feel sorry for him?).
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Old 27-04-2007, 12:44
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

I've met a few asshole cops.

I wouldn't be so angry at the policeforce as a whole, if they didn't remain silent and refuse to take on and reject the assholes.

It's like there are two kinds of cops.

1) Those who are assholes.
2) Those who just don't care but don't start shit


Well that's all very well that maybe not most of them are assholes, but it doesn't help when the rest of them don't HELP you against the assholes, now, does it? They just let you suffer instead.

It's like Martin Luther King said:

"Time…can be used destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people."

In my mind though... those "good" cops aren't really good. They are just self-interested. They don't care. They only care about themselves. But that makes them better than those who care about themselves AND are sadistic. At least purely self-interested cops lack sadism. NEITHER are good. To be good you need to have true care.

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Old 27-04-2007, 14:00
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

I actually really enjoy having police officers around. Sure some are crooked but they are there when you need them. They will also take a bullet for you if the situation arises.

there are many laws that seem unjust but hopefully in the curtain of time they will all be ironed out

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Old 27-04-2007, 14:05
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

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there are many laws that seem unjust but hopefully in the curtain of time they will all be ironed out
They were saying that for thousands of years now.

I think we can learn by now that humans do bad things on purpose, and bad laws don't get ironed out unless the bad people in power themselves get ironed out. Which means the bad people voting for them need to get ironed out.

The only way you are going to have fairness on Earth is to call for the day of judgement. The end of days. Until then... things will remain unfair and life will be hard.
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Old 27-04-2007, 14:09
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

I totally agree with you on that one. But I think we can agree to disagree that we'd all rather have the police than no police at all
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

By the way I don't think I have ever seen this flaming of the user who is it?

I don't hate cops in general, yes I do not agree with drug laws, but that is not the cops fault that they have to inforce the rules given to them.

As far as cops going over board, it does happen. Does it happen too often yes, can I see why it sometimes happens yes. The people the cops are trying to take down arn't always so willing to just co-operate and go easy. Some actually fight back violently, too many actually. I believe this is one of the main reasons that the cops do act/react the way they do.

Also if you were to work in a job where 99.9% of the poeple you talk to flat out lied to you, how long before you were to stop trusting people in general based on the constant exposure to the lies.

Even though most of the people you deal with outside of work are genuine and honest how many of them are you thinking in your head "oh yeah I heard that one last week too"


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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

Three police officers live on the same block as SWIM, and one of those lives right across the damn street. He's the biggest asshole cop in town, too (wrote SWIM a $100 ticket for her dog "running at large" like right outside of her yard) .. anyway..it makes SWIM a bit paranoid because you know they'd just love to bust any drug user, but then again..like others have said, when people are sneaking around the neighborhood, vandalizing, etc etc..the popo there to help end it.

It's a love/hate relationship you know, SWIM just deals.

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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

[quote=QGdoxl;255574]By the way I don't think I have ever seen this flaming of the user who is it?

his name on here is police officer.....
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

These are jobs that are actually very attractive to be occupied by members of any radical movement, that are dreaming to throw about the existing system.

Seen with the media, being controlled by religious groups leading to drug hysteria and others.

I mean, what do you think do fascist hire camps for, loans, etc ..? for sure not only for barbecue and stupid concerts, they will be taught on how to manipulate tests, to get into position and once, a sufficient number of memebers are together in one place, boom, e.g. african, suspected dealers die a littel too often during investigation or in their cells.

Same with other occupational groups e.g. some sorts of medical doctors are said to be exclusively facists like psychiatrics and throat, nose ear specialists, or sadists like dentists, psychiatrics and ear nose throat specialists... they were thinking since they knew they´re getting a hard-on on causing pain, about what job will do the best job for them, while the average person will just think, he´d be doing just a job, while he´s cracking up the jaw, sawing into it and having a pump for your blood and a blood smell the whole day around in his house... no, no, no all perverts, I tell you.
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Re: Users always hate Police yet....

It is every good citizen's duty to protest unjust laws, and, for police officers, that includes refusing to enforce and uphold them.
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