Hydrocodone and Oxycodone Experiences

[MrJim]

Please Post SWIMs Experience with these substances here. Try to include dosages, which drug, approximate times when injestion occured as well as method of administration. Feelings and anything that would paint a detailed image of SWIM's personal experience are important. Good ones always recieve good rep points.

[snowsie1221]

Swims favorite. Hydro.... for swim was less extreme... can cause stomach to hurt though as well as brother oxycodone. SWIM perfers swallowing, snorting too much powder. Next morning can be a little rough. Swim always has hard time waking up and they both come with a little bit of a hang over. Both create an euphoric feel, makes Swim happy and giddy. Almost like less extreme XTC. Drinking on these can be dangerous, and if any amphe. is mixed with them it will bypass both, kinda starting swiy back at 0. Effects last a few hours. Amount to take has to be felt out by swiy. Tolerance will build very quickly. Both have medical uses to control pain.

[420sublime420]

My Flying Panda has tried so many time to get high off codeine or hydrocodone and have never succeeded. Yesterday,My Flying Panda took 37.5 mg of hydrocodone orally (My Flying Panda took rolaids 20 min prior) and yet again, My Flying Panda FAILED. WTF does My Flying Panda have to DO!?!?!? My Flying Panda wants oxycontin so bad, cuz there is no way that will fail...

[snowsie1221]

My flying panda might be immune to hydro. Sounds odd but I have heard about it before. Like my flying panda is super human right? Oxy.... lady and the tramp advises to be careful, lots of people puke off them and they can cause some crazy shit. Lady and the tramp saw the sky spin..... but is lucky to never feel sick off them. Lady and the tramp has a tank of a stomach.... but like she said be careful

[Swimster]

With average doses of hydro[like around 20mg's], swim can't do shit with, just makes him tired like low doses like diphen... , it's simply do to abuse, swim guesses. Oxy is nice though.

[searcher]

If you didn't know, swim has a broken back/spinal chord injury. Doc has prescribed 15 mg oxycodone, 3 times a day. This is for chronic nerve pain (don't f up your back).
Pain is reduced from sharp shooting waves to a dull sensation of pain (mobility is improved). Bad side effects include dry mouth and constipation (milk of magnesia/magnsium salts) helps control that. Swim says heroin works better.

[Skeetastic]

My Great Big Panda Bear can account for the first time My Great Big Panda Bear ever did oxycontin.My Great Big Panda Bear bought 2 10mg tabs, and My Great Big Panda Bear snorted one. minor buzz,My Great Big Panda Bear was pissed that My Great Big Panda Bear had to do both for a decent "high". My Great Big Panda Bear snorted the second, and My Great Big Panda Bear was gone. My Great Big Panda Bear had to wash 4 dishes, and that happened to be the hardest thing My Great Big Panda Bear had to ever do. to this day, 20mg oxycontin(generic really) was the most hard high My Great Big Panda Bear has had.

[snowsie1221]

My little pony is wondering if there are bindings on hydro... My little pony knows there are bindings on Oxy... Without bindings called Roxy... So is there a non-binding kind of hydro?

[Br00klynB0y87]

One of the main things that separate Hydrocodone from Oxycodone is the chemical make-up, beside that they’re fairly alike. They’re both considered semi synthetic opioids generally prescribed for mild to moderate (acute) pain.

As far as the strength difference between both, it appears that Oxycodone is to a certain degree stronger than Hydrocodone. I Also I remember reading somewhere that 5mg Oxycodone = 7.5mg Hydrocodone. However I have no solid source that sates this being true, instead this is a mere belief as well as a common undertanding by others. So if any1 has a legitimate source stating the difference as far as strength between both, please post it.

In swims personal experience w/ both of these chemicals, it appear that Oxycodone is in fact stronger than Hydrocodone. All off swims experiences with these opioids were taken orally. To sum up the description of thee experience… It’s like being pressed by gentle warm waves of complete contentment.

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"I believe in a long, prolonged, derangement of the senses in order to obtain the unknown."
-- Jim Morrison

[Skeetastic]

to SWIM, 20mg of hydrocodone taken orally, and 20mg of oxycodone orally ingested is very much equal in effect. both create a relaxed and distorted perception that equals good times. in the end, it doesn't matter which is better, but which SWIM can get his hands on.

[OhCasey]

This is swims 1st experience with Norcos. Some years ago when swim was just a little swim, about 13 yrs old. Swim and his friends were always looking for a way to get high. They had just started experimenting with Mary Jane and Swims older friends showed him that you could achieve a weird high by injesting about 20 or so little pink Kirkland Benedryl (Not really a fun experience, Swim and friends never understood why they tried it more then once, Similar high to Jimson Weed). Anyways so swim had always heard about Vicodin his whole life and heard adults joke about taking it and liking it. Swims Best fiends parent had Chronic Back pain and had a renewable Script for Norcos which his Dad told him were "Vicodin". Swims buddy was able to swipe some of these and meet at swims house before school. Now swims buddy was the guinea pig on the benedryl and he took the pills about 2 class periods(2 hours) before swim. That being the case Swim agreed to be the guinea pig on the Norcos. Now on account of Swim and buddy being so wise and smart they figured Vicodin are about twice as good as Benedryl so we should take not 10 (because that might be too much) but we should take 8 each at once. So swim pops 8 10/325 Norcos right before 1st period drinks it down with a root beer. When 1st periods about half way over Swim is hit by a euphoric wave of fun, then swim starts itching and itching, then swim gets a real bad sick feeling in his stomach. Luckily swim had eaten a peanut butter toast Sandwich before school. 1st periods over and swims friends are telling him that his face looks different so he ignores them goes to 2nd period and not any later then 10 minutes after 2nd period begins Swims teacher notices Swims face is swelling fast and he tells him to go to the office. The office nurse immediatly called the hospital and Swims mom. So swims real nervous throws up in nurses bathroom and tells everyone he doesnt know whats wrong. The doctor asks Swim what hes eaten that day after giving him a shot and swim tells him a peanut butter Sandwich and doctor says that must be it and Swims mother pressures the Doctor and says arent you gonna do an Allergy test or take blood, he assures her its peanut butter that it could happen just all of a sudden and maybe its that brand and he will be fine. That started Swims love affiar with opiates that has since blossomed to many other opiates like Oxy, Methadone, Morph, Dilaudid, Demerol, Tramadol, and Fentanyl. But Swim has Always come back to his first love Norco. Just a story Swim thought he might share.

[Bajeda]

Swim, weighing in at 160 pounds, took 20mg of Oxycodone with 350ml of grapefruit juice recently. It also had 1200mg of acetominophen in it, though it didn't give swim any problems with nausea. He would have done a CWE, but didn't want to wait because he can be impatient at times.

The effects came on nicely, starting off with a gradually building euphoric buzz. Swim's body eased up shortly after, and then he went and smoked a nice hash joint, though it was spliffed a bit heavy on the tobacco side as swim didn't want to get too high. The hash high mixed in nicely with the intensifying oxy euphoria. The psychedelic effects and 'stoning' effect weren't very prominent as the oxycodone overpowered that aspect of the hash effects, but the euphoria was a traquil bliss. Swim's thoughts weren't very muddied, but swirled around in swim's mind, slowly making their presence known. Swim kept to one thought at a time, though his focus was slowly shifting as he relaxed his mind and let his inner dialogue flow freely. It was a nice synergy between the oxy and the hash. Not as trippy as with tramadol, but much more soothing. Swim didn't get really lethargic either, though his ability to process sensory input glazed over a bit and swim was mentally dazed from time to time as he watched tennis. Music felt great in swim's ears and mind, and he found he would drift from physical consciousness as he let himself dissolve into the rhythm. When he took off the headphones he was able to focus better again, which was preferable for tennis, but after the match was over he turned the House music back on and let his body relax and take in the enveloping body high.

After another hour swim smoked again, a bigger joint this time. It still smoked very nicely, tasted good, and the high melded right back in with the opiate effects. The oxy high actually came back more after smoking for the second time. The euphoria waned a bit, but swim is mellow and relaxed, and his head is comfortably heavy. He should be able to sleep well after a few hours.

Swim's only complaint about this experience would be that the euphoria didn't seem to last long enough, though I guess he could have taken some more oxy after it wore off a bit to kick it up. Hard to say if the grapefruit juice did much as he hasn't done oxy in a while and doesn't know if there is cross-tolerance between Tramadol and oxycodone. Smoking cannabis definitely went well with the experience, both intensifying some of the oxy effects and adding other pleasurable effects, and the oxycodone made some of the less desirable cannabis effects negligable. A good mix for this dose of oxycodone.

[Psych0naut]

SWIM was given 10 Norco's(10mg hydrocodone/ 325mg paracetamol) by a friend from America. Hydrocodone isn't available in the Netherlands, so it is something unique to get and try. It's sunday and SWIM wanted to try the hydrocodone which he had laying around for a while, so he took 2 tablets at 20mg hydrocodon to give it a try, and took another 10mg one hour later. Here is his experience.

T 13:00 SWIM took 2 norco's at 20mg hydrocodone with a gulp of water, and is now patiently waiting untill the effects become noticeable, which apparently will be pretty quickly with hydrocodone.

T 13:15 SWIM has just had breakfast half an hour ago, so it may take a little longer to be absorbed, but SWIM feels the first hint of the effects, maybe placebo though, he doesn't know.

T 13:20 SWIM is clearly starting to feel the first effects. A feeling of contentment, everything is good, everything is relaxed. SWIM sees well where the addictiveness of strong opiates like hydrocodone lies. Just forgetting your worries for a few hours. At the moment SWIM feels the effects increase in little waves, which will become bigger waves in the oncoming hour. Waves of relaxation which he is already starting to feel.

T 13:30 SWIM is starting to feel hydrocodone's stoning effects. A nice feeling of contentment and relaxation, just wanting to listen to some mellow music and just do nothing. Opioids always make SWIM feel cozy, just wanting to relax under a blanket while listeing to some Coldplay. Hydrocodone has the strongest feeling of cozyness yet in SWIMs opinion.

T 13:45 SWIM is starting to feel even more stoned, but he isn't feeling any euphoria yet. Hope it will still come, it probaply will. SWIM is also starting to feel a slight stomach discomfort, but fortunenately it's not too bad. SWIM has read plenty of experience reports on Erowid about hydrocodone, and after what he read he concludes that he should be on his peak by now, or getting close, but this isn't as strong as what he hoped for, so hopefully it's just his breakfast that has delayed absorbtion a bit. Otherwise SWIM will take another 10mg at T 14:00.

T 14:00 SWIM took another norco at 10mg hydrocodone. Total amount taken is now 30mg of hydrocodone. SWIM is very light, 130 pounds, and the only opiods he took in the last month was 250mg tramadol a week ago, so he is wondering if he has kept some tolerance, or if SWIM just has a high natural tolerance.

T 14:15 Either SWIMs first dose is still rising in effects, or the Norco he took 10 minutes ago is starting to take effects. Anyway SWIMs face is starting to feel warm, and he is starting to feel even more stoned, but also pretty numb. This is really a drug for a lazy sunday.

T 14:30 SWIM is really starting to feel stoned and numb by now, his vision is starting to get blurry which is certainly a good sign. His face is also starting to feel warmer and he feels his whole body is starting to glow. This is getting really nice. SWIM is very relaxed and feeling content.

T 14:45 The effects appeared to have decreased. SWIM is still not feeling like he hoped for. He was thinking about taking some more, but after having read some more info about potentiating he tought about taking promethazine, so now he takes 25mg promethazine. Next time he is going to drink a lot of grapejuice before taking the hydrocodone because that also seems to potentiate the effects enormously.

T 15:00 SWIM is still feeling the same as 15 minutes ago. He is starting to feel a bit pissed that it didn't turn out like he wanted to, and that he didn't drink a lot of grapefruit juice beforehand, otherwise he would have felt more as well. A wise lesson, because he can't get his hands on hydrocodone soon. SWIM is still feeling stoned, but already less numb, and his body isn't glowing as much anymore either.

T 15:15 SWIM is starting to feel the nausea a bit more. It doesn't look like he is going to be able to eat a hot meal for his evening dinner. SWIM feels almost nothing of the hydrocodone anymore, only a bit relaxed feeling, but the promethazine didn't have any use anymore, except for suppresing the nausea.

T 15:30 SWIM is still feeling a bit relaxed, but for the rest nothing else except for a slight nausea This is the end of SWIMs first experience with hydrocodone. Really weird it was over so quick, and that he felt so little. Next time better, he will drink a lot of grapefruit juice before and take the same dose than. hoping for a more intense experience, he will write a experience report of it and post it as well when he does it.

Edit: after SWIM posted his experience report the nausea started to increase a lot more. SWIM still had a partially smoked J lying around, so at around T 16:00 he grabbed it and smoked half of it under the shower. It inmediately hit him and he felt a lot of the effects of the hydrocodone return again. He felt pretty stoned, numb and content again, it is now T 21:45 and SWIM is still feeling some of the effects. Really impressive that the lingering effects came almost completely back and stayed strong for such a while after taking a few tokes of MJ.

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	Nice report. I'm liking the picture addition too! Just a note because I'm anal, its spelt *contentment* :p
	Nice report.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

SWIM was given 10 Norco's(10mg hydrocodone/ 325mg paracetamol) by a friend from America. Hydrocodone isn't available in the Netherlands, so it is something unique to get and try. It's sunday and SWIM wanted to try the hydrocodone which he had laying around for a while, so he took 2 tablets at 20mg hydrocodon to give it a try, and took another 10mg one hour later. Here is his experience.

T 13:00 SWIM took 2 norco's at 20mg hydrocodone with a gulp of water, and is now patiently waiting untill the effects become noticeable, which apparently will be pretty quickly with hydrocodone.

T 13:15 SWIM has just had breakfast half an hour ago, so it may take a little longer to be absorbed, but SWIM feels the first hint of the effects, maybe placebo though, he doesn't know.

T 13:20 SWIM is clearly starting to feel the first effects. A feeling of contentment, everything is good, everything is relaxed. SWIM sees well where the addictiveness of strong opiates like hydrocodone lies. Just forgetting your worries for a few hours. At the moment SWIM feels the effects increase in little waves, which will become bigger waves in the oncoming hour. Waves of relaxation which he is already starting to feel.

T 13:30 SWIM is starting to feel hydrocodone's stoning effects. A nice feeling of contentment and relaxation, just wanting to listen to some mellow music and just do nothing. Opioids always make SWIM feel cozy, just wanting to relax under a blanket while listeing to some Coldplay. Hydrocodone has the strongest feeling of cozyness yet in SWIMs opinion.

T 13:45 SWIM is starting to feel even more stoned, but he isn't feeling any euphoria yet. Hope it will still come, it probaply will. SWIM is also starting to feel a slight stomach discomfort, but fortunenately it's not too bad. SWIM has read plenty of experience reports on Erowid about hydrocodone, and after what he read he concludes that he should be on his peak by now, or getting close, but this isn't as strong as what he hoped for, so hopefully it's just his breakfast that has delayed absorbtion a bit. Otherwise SWIM will take another 10mg at T 14:00.

T 14:00 SWIM took another norco at 10mg hydrocodone. Total amount taken is now 30mg of hydrocodone. SWIM is very light, 130 pounds, and the only opiods he took in the last month was 250mg tramadol a week ago, so he is wondering if he has kept some tolerance, or if SWIM just has a high natural tolerance.

T 14:15 Either SWIMs first dose is still rising in effects, or the Norco he took 10 minutes ago is starting to take effects. Anyway SWIMs face is starting to feel warm, and he is starting to feel even more stoned, but also pretty numb. This is really a drug for a lazy sunday.

T 14:30 SWIM is really starting to feel stoned and numb by now, his vision is starting to get blurry which is certainly a good sign. His face is also starting to feel warmer and he feels his whole body is starting to glow. This is getting really nice. SWIM is very relaxed and feeling content.

T 14:45 The effects appeared to have decreased. SWIM is still not feeling like he hoped for. He was thinking about taking some more, but after having read some more info about potentiating he tought about taking promethazine, so now he takes 25mg promethazine. Next time he is going to drink a lot of grapejuice before taking the hydrocodone because that also seems to potentiate the effects enormously.

T 15:00 SWIM is still feeling the same as 15 minutes ago. He is starting to feel a bit pissed that it didn't turn out like he wanted to, and that he didn't drink a lot of grapefruit juice beforehand, otherwise he would have felt more as well. A wise lesson, because he can't get his hands on hydrocodone soon. SWIM is still feeling stoned, but already less numb, and his body isn't glowing as much anymore either.

T 15:15 SWIM is starting to feel the nausea a bit more. It doesn't look like he is going to be able to eat a hot meal for his evening dinner. SWIM feels almost nothing of the hydrocodone anymore, only a bit relaxed feeling, but the promethazine didn't have any use anymore, except for suppresing the nausea.

T 15:30 SWIM is still feeling a bit relaxed, but for the rest nothing else except for a slight nausea This is the end of SWIMs first experience with hydrocodone. Really weird it was over so quick, and that he felt so little. Next time better, he will drink a lot of grapefruit juice before and take the same dose than. hoping for a more intense experience, he will write a experience report of it and post it as well when he does it.

Edit: after SWIM posted his experience report the nausea started to increase a lot more. SWIM still had a partially smoked J lying around, so at around T 16:00 he grabbed it and smoked half of it under the shower. It inmediately hit him and he felt a lot of the effects of the hydrocodone return again. He felt pretty stoned, numb and content again, it is now T 21:45 and SWIM is still feeling some of the effects. Really impressive that the lingering effects came almost completely back and stayed strong for such a while after taking a few tokes of MJ.

Swim finds that with Hydrocodone its quanity that gets it done as in quanity of experience's some eperiences will be better and stronger. Swim finds that drinking a whole glass of water subdues some of the nausea and swim never eats before if he wants to feel it hard. Next time dont eat anything (may increase nausea, so if its a big deal to swiy might want to eat maybe a small amount of food) Drink a good amount of water (1-2 cups) this should help the nausea. Go ahead and drink some grapefruit juice 30-45 mins before take an antacid and all you should need is 1-2 and swiy will feel nice.

[Diapuch]

Swim and Swims friend (Who shall be now known as Swia) finally had a chance to take some Oxycodone.

Swim is 100kg and 6ft, Swia is 60kg and about 5'6.

Swim and Swia chewed 10mg each with some water on an empty stomach. We then made our way to a cinema to watch a movie.

After around 45 minutes as they were settling in to their seats they started to notice a feeling that both of them could best describe as "floaty" their bodies seemed light and they felt like it took no energy to hold their arms out or similar. They say that this was not a dramatic feeling and had it not occured in both of them at the same time they would have thought it was a placebo effect.

About five minutes later, they decided to have some more. Swim chewed another 5mg and Swia about 3mg. After this the feeling they described as "floaty" steadily increased, after an hour Swim and Swia both had another 2-3mg-ish. After this both of them noticed that they were feeling very warm, and still felt "floaty". At first swim did not think the oxy was having any other effects, but then he realised how happy he was, and how he could think about his problems without worrying about them. He was surprised about the subtlety, he had expected to be consumed by the feelings, but he was pleasantly surprised to find out how they acted upon him.

After the movie finished, (about 3.5 hours after the initial dose) swim and swia were starving and decided to have lunch. They left the cinema thinking that they were relatively sober but once they got outside they realised that they were still very much under the influence. Everything seemed somewhat slowed down, and Swim and Swia were very relaxed and happy. they bought some lunch and ate it, before deciding it would be an awesome idea to go on a ferris wheel. Once they got on the ferris wheel, they had a wonderful time. Everything seemed slow and happy.

After the ferris wheel they went and lay on a grassy hill nearby, they watched the clouds and talked about stuff they wouldn't usually. They were still very relaxed and happy. (About 5 hours after) After this they parted and swim went home on the train.

On the train swim felt the effects wear off slowly, although as of now (7 hours after the initial dose) swim still feels very relaxed, but he doesn't feel "floaty" or worry-free anymore.

In conclusion: It was a wonderful experience. Both swim and swia talked about how they could see how easy it would be to become addicted. They will probably not do opiates again, but due to a fear of becoming addicted rather than a lack of enjoyment.

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[Diapuch]

Swim wanted to edit his last post but may not due to his newbie status, swim forgot one semi-important detail of his experience. That is, the first two tablets tasted very... disgusting is the only way swim can describe it, yet swim tells me that the second tablet taken almost an hour later tasted almost sugary and sweet. he says while the first made him want to vomit, the second was almost pleasurable. Swim wanted me to ask if this is normal and why it happens?

[OhCasey]

Ya theyre not pleasant tasting at all. Swim has never had an experience where they tasted anything close to good.

[BakaBilly]

SWIM has IBS and/or Chron's and suffers daily from pain in the 8-9 range on the 1-10 scale. It usually goes away but sometimes will last for over 10 hours in which case SWIM goes to the ER where they give him morphine and most recently dilaudid (my favorite of all of them.)

This time SWIM asked to talk to an in house pain management specialist.

SWIM leaves the hospital with a script for Oxycodone 5mg tabs. Not percocet but straight Oxy.

SWIM realized he should save them for when hes in pain, but as soon as SWIM gets home he calls up his buddy who used to give him Oxycontnins when he could get them. SWIM was really excited to return the favor. SWIMs friend has loaned up upwards of 500 for weed and oxycontnin.

SWIM and friend crush up and snort two 5mg pills each. Even though both SWIM and friend have done 20-40mg of oxycontnin in one snort, its been awhile and the 10mg Oxycodones hit pretty good.

The feeling of 10mg isnt overbearing. Most notably SWIM feels the effects on his pain. But in about 10 - 20 minutes SWIM just has an overall well sense of being.

30 minutes later SWIM ingests another 5mg pill as hes heard that a person gets the most from a pill by ingesting. SWIM sees the logic in this but cant help snorting things.


For about 4 hours SWIM feels fantasical!

SWIM has ADD and he isnt sure if its why he feels so energetic and alive on Oxycodone, but hes sure it has something to do with it.

SWIM beleives that there is a chemical imbalance in his system and some how opioids help level that out.

of course SWIM could just be trying to justify living on Oxycodone for the rest of his days.

[weekender2]

Since SWIM discovered Oxycontin he's abandoned his normal routine of augmenting opiates with alcohol. Too many people whose opinions he respects have told him the dangers of combining down with down and SWIM has decided it's just not worth the risk. Besides, he's a big fan of the pure high that 30 or so mg of OC gives him. He has a much greater love for OC than Hydrocodone, by a long way - perhaps it's that the OC's allow him to just crush and toot without any CWE nonsense. Perhaps it's just the fact that he misses cutting lines and snorting, even though his cocaine days are long behind him.

The fun usually begins at about 25 minutes after initial ingestion. SWIM is a guitar player and he can always tell when it starts to kick in when he finds his tempo slowing down from rock and roll to prom ballad! He then puts his guitar down and closes his eyes, and from there it's two hours or so of more or less uninterrupted bliss.

SWIM finds the recreational use of opiates to be very much a solitary pursuit; he's amused at the tales of social activity on them. He would never voluntarily put himself in a social situation more complex than petting a cat whilst on opiates.

After the initial glow wears off he'll cut up another 10mg and that puts the shine on the rest of the afternoon. After that a golden sunset ushers in a few hours of the nods, and then to bed, and hopefully another free Saturday next week.

Pax,
Weekender

[Blinky]

About a week ago, SWIM obtained some 10/500 hydrocodone probably six or so while having one of his friends over so he decided to ingest a few of them, and give the rest to his friend.

T 14:00 SWIM takes 2 1/2 pills and gives friend 1 1/2

T 14:05 SWIM decides to take another and give friend another to make sure they have fun

T 15:00 SWIM and his friend are feeling the come up, his friend has never done hydrocodone so SWIM keeps asking him if he feels and gets weird vauge answers and eventually just gives up and puts on Clerks II

T 15:30 SWIM and his friend are definately feeling the effects and are laughing their asses off watching Clerks

T 16:30 SWIM's friend wants to venture downstairs and play on computers so SWIM agrees and they hop around downstairs for a bit then go back upstairs

T 18:00 SWIM puts in another movie, but for some reason he can't remember what it was

T 20:00 After SWIM and his friend are finished with their trip to vicodin land his friend has to go but after everyone is home, his friend is complaining of terrible stomach pains, then SWIM seems to start getting them too

T 21:00 SWIM takes some ginger root to try and tame these awful stomach pains but finds its better just to go to sleep and forget about it

Well, SWIM doesn't see why he got such terrible stomach aches, he took about 3 or 4 of those same pills a few days ago and had no adverse reaction, maybe it was his friend's negative tummy energy

[Probing Tranquility]

SWIM would like to share his brief dance with the needle. SWIM started shooting OC's and went on a month binge. He was pretty much shooting on average 40mg of OC's each day, some days he could only do 20mg, other days he shot two 40mg OC's(not at the same time), and he shot 60mg OC all at once and startled his friends because they could see him get high. When he didn't have OC's he shot the orange 60mg morphine sulphate pills, not all at once though, he'd break them in half and cook it twice to get all the morphine out of the pancake. SWIM was feeling like if he did that much longer he wouldn't be able to stop, so he broke his needle because they aren't easy to come by in his area. So far its kept SWIM from shooting up in order to build up his bank account. SWIM looks forward to shooting again but now knows how it can grab you.

[Alekseev]

SWIM loves hydrocodone. He took 15-20 mg orally on his first encounter and

that left him tired, yet peaceful. No one noticed anything unusual about

SWIM, but that was good. The second time SWIM took a much larger dose

(approx. 25 mg snorted in increments/60 mg orally- not at the same time)

which left him extremely talkative and outgoing, yet alittle outside his body.

His eyes were droopy and he dozed off in a dinner chair in the middle of a

conversation. Only an occassional stoner recognized that SWIM was stoned.

He walked like he was drunk and he doesn't even remember the

conversations he had at the party.

SWIM has done hydro maybe four or five times, but he is neither addicted, nor controlled by it. He has also extracted the hydro, but it didn't make much of a difference. Snorting is alittle useless, too, as you have to do alot of it. It makes a nice smooth snort, though. The throat drip is the worst, too, with snorting. Very bitter, chemical taste. Oral tablet or powder in a drink (if you can swallow it- it's pretty nasty stuff!) are probably your best bets...
God bless opiates!!!

[csharpprogrammer]

The following report was automatically generated by Mr. X's Experience Manager Program. This is one of many, but Mr. X selected this one because it is his most detailed. NOTE: Mr. X combined diazepam, hydrocodone, and carisoprodol in this experience, but the effects described below are MOSTLY from the hydrocodone bitartrate.


Report Date: 04/25/06
Report Description: 127.5 mg hydrocodone, 1400 mg carisoprodol
Events:
Time: 20:13 | HR: 85 | BP: 122/75 | RR: 19 | SpO2: 98 | Comments: Resting Vitals
Time: 20:20 | HR: 82 | BP: 128/72 | RR: 18 | SpO2: 98 | Comments: None
Time: 20:25 | HR: 84 | BP: 118/68 | RR: 14 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Very Comfortable.
Time: 20:30 | HR: 90 | BP: 132/76 | RR: 17 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Still very comfortable.
Time: 20:35 | HR: 92 | BP: 139/72 | RR: 19 | SpO2: 96 | Comments: Already feeling a nice little buzz.
Time: 20:40 | HR: 84 | BP: 138/82 | RR: 15 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: I'm feeling great.
Time: 20:45 | HR: 88 | BP: 127/76 | RR: 14 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: I would rate the euphoria at 7 out of 10. I would really like to close my eyes, but I know that would be bad.
Time: 20:50 | HR: 84 | BP: 130/72 | RR: 9 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Getting harder to stay awake.
Time: 20:55 | HR: 92 | BP: 120/70 | RR: 23 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: None
Time: 21:05 | HR: 92 | BP: 147/81 | RR: 12 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Mom bitched, sort of screwed up the experiment
Time: 21:10 | HR: 90 | BP: 141/77 | RR: 12 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: None
Time: 21:15 | HR: 98 | BP: 136/72 | RR: 20 | SpO2: 96 | Comments: Not much euphoria, but its there.
Time: 21:20 | HR: 84 | BP: 134/79 | RR: 11 | SpO2: 96 | Comments: More of a Soma high then an opiate high.
Time: 21:25 | HR: 86 | BP: 135/73 | RR: 18 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Just want to nod out, not wfeat]]
Time: 21:31 | HR: 84 | BP: 128/64 | RR: 12 | SpO2: 95 | Comments: Pretty euphoric, vitals dropping.
Time: 21:35 | HR: 88 | BP: 132/72 | RR: 13 | SpO2: 95 | Comments: SpO2 is still dropping.
Time: 21:40 | HR: 80 | BP: 140/66 | RR: 10 | SpO2: 95 | Comments: Euphoria is gone, just real tired.
Time: 21:45 | HR: 100 | BP: 135/66 | RR: 18 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Don't remember this.
Time: 21:50 | HR: 80 | BP: 138/61 | RR: 7 | SpO2: 94 | Comments: Don't remember this either.
Time: 21:55 | HR: 86 | BP: 125/69 | RR: 10 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Don't remember this either.
Time: 22:00 | HR: 92 | BP: 121/76 | RR: 24 | SpO2: 96 | Comments: I think this experience is over,
Time: 22:05 | HR: 92 | BP: 128/75 | RR: 27 | SpO2: 96 | Comments: Experience is over.
Time: 22:10 | HR: 82 | BP: 116/67 | RR: 22 | SpO2: 95 | Comments: Experience is over.
Time: 22:20 | HR: 106 | BP: 129/75 | RR: 23 | SpO2: 97 | Comments: Experience is over.
Time: 22:15 | HR: 90 | BP: 129/73 | RR: 16 | SpO2: 96 | Comments: Experience is over.
Comments:
NOTE: I'm already feeling pretty good from 25 mg of diazepam downed with Grape Fruit juice at approx. 16:00.
I expect to be high between 8 and 9 o'clock, so that I can be good enough to watch "House" which comes on at 9:00.
I haven't eaten in a long time, so I expect quick and strong effects. My only fear is an overdose. I did come very close a few days ago, and if it wasn't for my patient monitor alarms, I may not have woken up and started breathing again.
19:35 - Start breaking up 17 Vicodin ES tablets.
19:39 - Tablets are in water, now stiring.
19:43 - Tablets are completely disolved, I will let it sit for a few minutes to be sure, then pour it into the filter cup.
19:48 - Starting to gradually pour the solution through the filter.
19:49 - While I let it filter for a few minutes, I am going to put on my ECG Electrodes for monitoring.
20:00 - The solution is completed, I am now setting up the environment.
20:14 - Ingestion of the solution, chased by a can of Brisk Iced Tea for taste.
20:25 - Just remembered to take the Soma.
20:33 - Just now took the Soma, not sure it was such a good idea, I was feeling very good.
20:34 - I think someone just got home, hope my mom don't bitch at me for this.
20:38 - Pretty sure its LAUREN who just got home, but maybe my mom too, shit!
20:42 - My RR is getting extemely low, I am breathing extra breaths just to keep my apnea alarm from going off.
21:37 - I keep getting woke up by an SpO2 alarm, thank God.
21:58 - Around this time is when I was dosing off.
22:04 - Vitals are coming back to normal, except SpO2.
22:14 - I think I'm back to normal, just an elevated heart rate.
22:24 - Even though I stopped taking vitals, I still feel a little different.

[SpaceCadetGlow]

SWIM has had several experiences with both drugs. He will describe one experience for each drug.

Hydrocodone
SWIM received 7 hydrocodone/APAP 7.5/500 pills from a friend with the intent to enjoy them during the 10 hour plane ride SWIM was soon to embark on. SWIM drinks lots of grapefruit juice whether he's taking something or not, so he had quite a bit in his stomach upon receiving the pills. SWIM took two Tums 1000 immediately before ingestion. SWIM had little tolerance to opioids at this time.

T+00.00 (3:00pm) - SWIM puts 4 pills (30 mg) under his tongue after taking
his prescribed daily dose of Adderall XR (40mg)
T+00.10 - SWIM washes the four pills down to an empty stomach
T+00.30 - The effects are starting to be felt. A slight lift in mood
accompanies some talkativeness.
T+00.45 - Definite hydrocodone effects, all pre-existing pain is eliminated,
feelings of apathy towards my problems, generally positive outlook
on life
T+01.00 - no significant changes, happy to be in this lifted state of being
just going with the flow
T+01.30 - been feeling the same for the past 45 minutes, typical opiate-itch
has come on, ingested 0.125mg of hyoscyamine to suppress any
sweating and to possibly lessen the itch
T+02.00 - remaining three pills (22.5mg) placed under the tongue to dissolve,
most ends up being swallowed. no euphoria, but this is typical of
hydrocodone for swim.
T+02.30 - feelings of content and absence of worries is maintained, along
with the itchiness
T+03.30 - feelings not changed much after an hour, itch has not improved
T+04.00 - SWIM is noticing a steady decline in the hydrocodone's
psychedelic qualities, itch is coming less frequently
T+04.30 - SWIM just barely still notices the effects of the drug, still a little
itchy, no crash or comedown at all


Oxycodone
SWIM tends to receive 4-6 Percocet 5/500 when he wants to experience some better living through chemistry. SWIM spaces his usage out in order to avoid too much tolerance. SWIM usually prefers oxycodone at night, and the account provided wiill take place in the evening. SWIM takes Paxil and Adderall. Tolerance was low to none.

9:00 pm - SWIM comes early to bed, looking forward to a night of magic. He puts four percocet (20mg oxycodone) under his tongue.
T+00.10 - the pills are still disolving under this kids tongue. Oxycodone seems to absorb pretty well via the sublingual route; the drug is already taking effect. A sudden wave of comfort and warmth engulfs SWIM.
T+00.25 - SWIM is well into his favorite type of high; warmth and comfort have increased, a somehwat subtle, satisfied-feeling euphoria is also surfacing. The opiate itch has begun but SWIM is feeling too good to let it get to him. BTW the pills were swallowed after about 15 minutes of puttin under the tongue
T+00.40 - SWIM has maintained the feelings of warmth, comfort, and peace of mind. SWIM notices an increase in relaxation proportional to the decrease in the intensity of the euphoria. If asked about how he felt, SWIM could best describe himself as just takin it easy. No worries. Life is beautiful. Anything and everything becomes enjoyable; SWIM likes to hit up the computer or call friends during this period of decreased anxiety.
T+02.00 - For SWIM the desirable effects of oxycodone usually tend to last a good two hours and are followed by a very quick and sudden return to reality. SWIM does not notice any hangover feeling or crash. The quick cessation of that narcotic feeling is the roughest part, and could be considered a crash, although it's really not rough at all compared to the comedowns associated with other substances.


Analysis

Hydrocodone - brings comfort and a mild sense of well-being and euphoria.
the entire experience can last up to six to eight hours. It is
definitely made longer by tums, antacids, etc.
the coming down period is very pleasant. compliments
amphetamine (Adderall) very nicely.

Oxycodone - provides definite feelings of comfort and well-being, and a
shorter-lasting yet comparably intense euphoria. the
experience's feelings of comfort last around two hours.
sublingual bioavailability seems to be sufficient, which allows
for more rapid absorption under the tongue. combines very
well with muscle-relaxers such as Skelaxin and Flexeril; also
great when taken with very small doses of Seroquel. 15 to 25
mg Seroquel is plenty. The abrupt ending of the experience
can be annoying and may leave the user badly wanting more.
it's 'crash' however is very mild compared to most.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Very good experience report for both opioids!
	Good post
	Great report :)

[pixplzthx]

The Kid around the corner wanted everyone to know that, for the most part, the usage of opiates help treat very real pain: Spinal Stenosis.

But a few times TKATC decided to escalate the dosage to find out about these effects. As I watched TKATC take somewhere near 40 mg of hyrocodone, I began to get worried. But TKATC informed me that things would be fine.

And fine they were.

After about 30 minutes, TKATC enjoyed, everything. I asked about the pain and TKATC relayed that the pain was still there but much thinking was required to feel the pain. So we road around on our bikes. TKATC reminded me of what my daughter looked like when we removed her training wheels.

Such joy. Such freshness was found in every task.

I do envy TKATC and at times I live vicariously in the experiences. But it is for the better, I feel. If I had TKATC meds, I'm end up an addict looking for the net "great" thing. But I try to take care of TKATC and read up on the chemicals here and other places so that if something bad should happen I'd be in a position to help.