Eating hash by itself

[Magicarp]

SWIMs got some hash and understands it can be eaten by itself.

How much is needed? SWIM wants to get high, but SWIM will be going out so SWIM doesn't want to be lying on the floor .etc.

Do you chew it or just try to swallow it? SWIM would rather eat it plain and not have to eat cookies or whatever, but is eating hash plain just as effective as cooking with it? SWIM would guess more-so as the macronutrients .etc in hash food would delay and maybe hinder absorption.

Cheers

[jesusfreak666er]

swim has never used hash however swim would think just melting it into butter then putting that on some break is a simple and effective method... again swim has no experiance eating hash

[Bajeda]

Yep, you can eat straight hash and get a very fascinating experience. Ever hear of Le Club de Haschichin? (Club of the Hash Eaters, I'm tired so spelling/name may be off)

See quotes below.

Originally Posted by Bajeda

Swim has had his own Hashish OD experiences. He has eaten straight hash before (don't go telling me you need to mix it with something with fat, it works!!) in sizable quantities (over a gram at least) and had some very intense experiences.

In particular one swim was literally passing out. He will provide a short trip report below.





OD On Hashish?

Swim had some extra hashish on him on Wednesday (the beginning of the weekend in the Middle-East) and had a few hours to kill before heading to his friend's house to chill and smoke for a few hours after picking up some sheghra (type of hash).

Swim had a 1.5 gram piece of nice soft sticky afghanistani hash on him left over from the week and decided that he wanted to try oral consumption again. He popped it in his mouth and chased it down with a glass of milk. Mmmmmmm...... though he accidentally chewed it a bit while breaking it down in his mouth so he got annoyingly sticky hash pieces stuck in his teeth! It was 5:30pm. The hash was quite potent but not laced with heroin or opium as is possible in the region. Swim had orally consumed hash before though only up to .5g and that was more than enough as is!! Also in those cases he didn't drink milk after ingestion, he just swallowed whole for various reasons (such as walking on to a military base and having a piece to deal with that you don't want to throw away!!)

An hour later he drove to his friends house 15minutes away. Swim and his friends decided to roll a small j with what they had left from the previous weekend to tide them over until the dealer arrived. They smoked it (between 4 people) while playing pool and chilling and then headed up to swim's friend's room to listen to some music and check out some funny shit on the comp. This was about 6:30pm to 6:45pm.

It is about this time swim really starts feeling the hash take effect. He notices another layer slip over the high from the joint. He recognizes the the lethargic feeling in his body and heavyness of the head that comes with eating hashish. He kneels down next to the computer to watch the clips playing as the chair doesn't feel comfortable anymore.

In another 15 minutes swim is feeling quite messed up. His head ways a ton. Seriously. He can barely hold his head up. His head would keep rolling to a side and he would have to use his hands to physically prop his head back up, which was quite a challenge as his arms were completely numb as well. Swim is getting visual like effects while watching the cartoons (joecartoon swim thinks) and is quite confused as to whats happening.

Another 30 minutes goes by and swim is not feeling well. He is extremely tired, as though he had taken 20mg or more of valium. He is kneeling on the floor with his head resting on his friend's bed. He keeps trying to prop his head up or stand up but can't. At one point he manages to look in the mirror and sees that his eyes are fucked. They are completely covered with a large web of red and yellow veins branching across his eyeball, and the white that he can see is glazed over with a yellowish tint. Actually looking closer he sees that his eyes are completely glazed over, and his vision is a bit distorted even. He keeps alternating between half-lying on the bed and getting up and taking a few steps around.

Swim's friends are getting ready for the dealer to arrive about 15 minutes later when swim has had enough. He calls a friend to take him home. His is literally passing out, and in no condition to drive. He can barely walk. His coordination is about the same as if he had drank about 7-8 beers. He has trouble seeing and though he can hear people clearly when he pays attention he finds himself slipping into an unconscious (yet active) state where he doesn't pay attention to what people are saying, only hearing vague murmurs in the distance.

Swim gets picked up by a friend who can tell he is messed up. Swim goes straight to his bed and passes out. The time is 8:30pm - 8:45pm. Swim wakes up sometime between noon and one the next day feeling like crap. He is dehyrdated and his head hurts. He only has vague memories of what happened the night before, and doesn't feel like smoking the next day (odd considering he smokes every day).

Swim ate hashish once more before he left the middle-east, but it was a smaller dose, and much more pleasurable. Swim defines OD as when you take so much of a drug to get a much higher proportion of negative effects to positive ones so that the entire experience is negative (for narcotics he views OD as more of a lethal dose). Swim thinks it is possibly to OD on hashish, though he has eaten huge quantities of weed and not had as much of a problem.

Swim thinks that if he finds a very hallucinogenic strain of hashish he may try to "OD" again to see how far he can push the visual and mental psychedelic effects from eating hashish. Marijuana seems much more like a hallucinogen in this state.



Hashish is a helluva drug!

Originally Posted by Bajeda

He has eaten pieces of hash straight up before and they have fucked him up incredibly. The highest swim has ever been was from eating a medium size piece of hash (probably a gram of hash) out of paranoia and damn did it mess him up. He was passing out and the room was spinning around him. His limbs were incredibly heavy. It was an intense body-heavy high.


Also good is eating hash laced with opium. Creates a nice synergistic effect, and is a pretty smooth ride.

Originally Posted by Bajeda

My friend Dearth had a good way of ingesting hash, seeing as it isn't as easy to make into brownies and it doesn't take as much as weed.

Take an oreo and take off the top. Scoop out a little bit of the white creme in the center. Take a spoon and put butter in it. Then crumble some bits of hash into the spoon as well. Cook the hash and butter together on the spoon by putting a lighter underneath. When it melts down a bit pour the mixture into the middle of the oreo and put the top back on. Put the "special" oreo into the freezer for 15 minutes. Pick a special time, and enjoy!

See if any of that helps you. The recipe in the last quote is highly recommended.

[Nagognog2]

THC - Tetrahydrocannibinol - is not soluble in water of stomach acids. So the rumor about eating hashish and getting high from this is untrue. To make hashish (or cannabis) edible and metabolized, one needs to dissolve it in a fat like butter or cooking-oil.

The rumors about just eating hash and getting off have been around for decades. Usually the person who tells the rumor is already stoned out of their gourde, eats a gram of hash, and assumes they are getting high from it. But in reality they are just wasting their hashish.

The amazing powers of suggestion meets the placebo-effect.

Posting at the same time, Baj: The hashish eaters in Paris ate hashish that were cooked into confections. They were not just chawing on a brick of Afghani Black. LOL!

Your glass of milk would have dissolved some THC. That's why it worked. A milk-based cannabis drink called Bhang (pronounced Bong) is popular in India. Bhang has the THC dissolved in the fats from milk and will make one feel so high as to be nearly speechless. Not good for a party where conversation is expected. But a person on Bhang would make a dandy coat and hat-rack in the corner.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

THC -
The rumors about just eating hash and getting off have been around for decades. Usually the person who tells the rumor is already stoned out of their gourde, eats a gram of hash, and assumes they are getting high from it. But in reality they are just wasting their hashish....

Your glass of milk would have dissolved some THC. That's why it worked. A milk-based cannabis drink called Bhang (pronounced Bong) is popular in India. Bhang has the THC dissolved in the fats from milk and will make one feel so high as to be nearly speechless. Not good for a party where conversation is expected. But a person on Bhang would make a dandy coat and hat-rack in the corner.

I have to disagree with two points here, for what it's worth:

(1) Despite the fact that THC is only soluble in fat, eating unprepared hash can get you high, even if preparation with some kind of fat would is more effective. This is possibly because much hash in Asia actually contains ghee (cooking fat) to make it softer and more bulky.

(2) Bhang Lasi (an Indian yoghurt drink), served in India, usually doesn't get you very high at all. It's generally sold in temple towns where the bhang (grass) is cheap and poor quality. If you were to ask, you could get it made stronger. If you were to make it yourself....

[Bajeda]

I guess that would be the case then. Still, with quality, very pure hash, you don't need to cook it into anything. Simple milk and cookies (as in the oreo described above) will do the trick.

If swim didn't get all the THC from that piece he ate (hard to tell really without much research into this area exactly), he is shivering at the thought of what it would have been like to metabolise it all!


Its sort of funny though, swim thought it was the plant matter that was preventing the THC from getting absorbed for the most part, which is why hashish worked when he ate it, even though he knew that THC was fat soluble.

I guess he didn't realize that with his cookie method he would always have a glass of milk with it!!

BajEdit: Above comment was about all the times swim ate hash, obviously with the cookie method the butter helps get the THC out anyways.

[Nagognog2]

Bongo's squad of Flying-Monkeys had access to large quantities of pure, isomerized hashoil. They were using it for everything from face-paint to lip-balm. And, of course, eating the stuff was done as well - with no discernable effects. Unless it were placed in milk. Or, better still, dissolved in butter and baked into something. Bongo was accused of lacing the hashoil by some monkeys - they had never tripped so hard in their lives.

Bongo fondly recalls the concerned look of the headmaster of his school as he tried to get the word: HASHOIL - off his office-door. Guess what it was written in....?

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Bongo fondly recalls the concerned look of the headmaster of his school as he tried to get the word: HASHOIL - off his office-door. Guess what it was written in....?

lol, thats exactly why swim isn't too keen on it. Well, among other reasons. That being part of the main one, its such a bitch to smoke.

[Nature Boy]

SWIM has achieved decent results eating hash on its own but followed by several helpings of fat-containing dairy products and the like. I can't imagine the results would be as good without them.

[Bajeda]

I still think the amount of plant matter in the hash makes a difference as to how much fat you'd need to be able to metabolise the THC. With the really high quality hash swim used to ingest orally, he wouldn't use much at all and still get incredible results. Could just be the higher level of THC contained due to less plant matter, but its hard to tell for sure...

[fnord]

how much fat to thc should be used? like if swim eats 1 gram of mid grade pot would a teaspoon of butter be alright?or is it the more the better?

[Bajeda]

I don't think there has been much empirical research done on this. Its better to overestimate than underestimate, so put some extra in.

You could always check recipes online and see what they use to get an idea of what works, though keep in mind its not an exact science at this point.

There are some good threads on cooking with weed in the Cannabis forum. As for hash, swim personally wouldn't use much preparation, though you can make some interesting stuff, like majoon for instance.

[Nature Boy]

Melting the hash down with a lighter in olive oil and adding to yoghurt works fine. It's one of the quickest and easiest hash recipes.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Melting the hash down with a lighter in olive oil and adding to yoghurt works fine. It's one of the quickest and easiest hash recipes.

Mmmm, swim might have to try that. He didn't think of that one before. He just likes his Oreo method because cookies and milk are great, and its a quick easy way to consume hash.

He eats a ton of yoghurt though. How does the mixture taste, and is there a better substitute for olive oil? Swim isn't sure how that would mix in with the yoghurt.

[grecian]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Uh, pizza? Isn't that full of cheese?

I think I am correct in saying that most lactose intolerent people can ingest small amounts of lactose without severe symptons. Also cheese has significantly lower lactose levels than milk.

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Melting the hash down with a lighter in olive oil and adding to yoghurt works fine. It's one of the quickest and easiest hash recipes.

Swim also recommends this method, great if Swiy is too lazy/busy to bother with a more complicated recipe.

Swim has seen people use this method without melting the hash but omitting this step will reduce the effects.

[Bajeda]

Swim just made a hash oreo a bit ago. Its funny, because heating up the butter and hash together on the sppon is almost like cooking up a shot. He isn't even sure if the butter is necessary, as he just remembered the oreo filling is made of lard, and these are double-filling oreos. Will see how it works this time around though.

Swim was going to try the yoghurt method Nature Boy suggested, but he has a nice strawberry milkshake and thinks the oreo will taste better. If he has time he will try the yoghurt way as well and compare the two taste-wise.

Picture of the Oreo after pouring in the hash-butter mix and right before putting the top back on so swim can throw it into the freezer.

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Swim is planning on ingesting very shortly, so he will try to give an update later on how it went. Not too much hash in it, but swim has been fooled by its potency before!

[HabitualCriminal]

Swim isn't a smoker but used to do the yoghurt and cooking oil thing regularly. Swim mates would laugh at the tiny amount of hash used, it wouldn't even be able to fill one of their joints but swim used to get seriously messed up. Swim reckons its down to the fact that when the hash is cooked up and ingested the full amount goes into your system whereas with the smoking most of the hash is either left in the joint as ash or blown out as smoke. Swim wishes he had a tiny amount to put into a yoghurt just now lol

[Nature Boy]

Mixed into a bigger than average tub of yoghurt, a teaspoon of olive oil with melted hash mixed up well, the overall flavour is acceptable. Some sort of sweet syrup could do as a substitute maybe. Then SWIM goes for chocolate yoghurt. Gobbles it back quickly and downs a glass of milk afterwards.

[Bajeda]

Sounds like it could go well with a nice dish of flan. Swim will have to try it when he goes back to the Middle East, which should be fairly shortly.

[Magicarp]

SWIM decided to have the hash in some gold top milk. It was delicous, SWIM used about a gram of hash and a cup of milk and simmered it for around 20 minutes. SWIM was kinda afraid the milk was on too high heat as the milk did boil near the end when SWIM wasn't watching. The milk formed a skin, do you reckon SWIM rendered the hash less effective by heating it too much?

[Veteran Joker]

for the people who aren't us (PWAU swimmers) that can't metabolise lactose, using dairy isint an option as stomach cramps and the runs can ruin a good, plesant day. SWIM reccomends melting gently (not frying) weed or hash in oil, then coating on whatever food you like. An edible hash oil (I say edible, SWIM tells me hashoil is made by dissolving hash or washing weed in naptha). SWIM reccomends pizza as the food of choice for being high, so having the oil drizzled ontop or in a salad with a vinagrette makes for a plesant day. If you have a lot of pot leaves, add those to a salad along with parsley.

[Nature Boy]

Uh, pizza? Isn't that full of cheese?

[Bajeda]

^^^^^

If you have the time for preparation, Majoon is a tastier and more fulfilling beverage to make in swim's humble opinion.

[el burgo]

Doubtful. THC is soluble in fat. Eating it straight is a plain waste. To eat properly crumble into butter/olive oil and heat gently the THC goes into the solution and add to a yogurt for example...

[DietBlonde]

SWIM didn't read all the posts cuz he has to run...but SWIM has gotten very high off of .2 grams of hash from the dispensary. He'd rather take .1 grams to have a nice mellow buzz.