Desoxypipradrol

[spacehippi13]

Does anyone know how this substance breaks down in the body, in reference to drug testing?--is it an amphetamine? methamphetamine? etc?
Will it show up on a drug test at all? (The type of drug test, to which I refer, would be the kind administered by the American Government, during a probation meeting etc--not sure what all they test for during such a test. I saw that it might show up as a false positive for pipradrol, but is that even tested for and if so, what broader category is it in--amphetamine, methamphetamin, opiate etc????)

How long does it stay in the body--in regards to showing up on a drug test, not the time the effects can actually be felt.

I really appreciate any factual information on this topic and/or suggestions as to where accurate information on this topic might be found. Thanks very much! Happi day!

[spacehippi13]

By the way, I would like to add that this substance is an ideal for people who like stimulants and want to stay up for as long as possible (not sure why someone would want to take a stimulant if they didn't want to stay awake, but hey, that's just an opinion) It is also a good substitute and/or suppliment to crystal meth, but the 5-10mg dosage should be followed, so that it doesn't become uncomfortable during the initial hours after intake. It promotes "do things" mode, doesn't affect appitite, doesn't create jonesing feeling or crack out in the come down stage, doesn't create feeling for needing another dosage until it wears off. Sleep was easily possible anytime after the dosage, except during the initial few hours after intake, and after waking, the effects were still pleasantly in effect. I've seen all sorts of posts that people couldn't sleep, blah, blah, blah, but I seriously can't figure out why they would take a stimulant if they wanted to sleep, so I say again, that this substance is probably best for people who like to stay awake. All in all go for it if you want to stay up. I will say that there are slightly varied, mild, side effects in some people....slight headache, stomach ache, chest hurting, slight numbness in hands and feet, slight nose bleed the next day. This being said...please be responsible and start with a small dose--5mg max to interface with the substance initially until you know how your body will react with it. I was told that 5mg would last 24 hours, but redose was required before 24 hours in order to stay awake--this must be a variable for different people's body chemistry. If there are any questions about personal experience on the substance, I will be happi to provide more information. Happi day!

Reputation Comments on this post:

Swiy gives an accurate picture of the effects of this substance. When it comes to unresearched compounds this informatio...

[spacehippi13]

One more thing.....in regards to being willing to provide more information about personal experience.....this information is from Swim originally and I would just be passing it along. It is NOT my own personal experience. Thanx

[NeonCortex]

Pipradrol is probably not tested for, no. But who knows?

[supe]

desoxypiprorol gives swim a headache. i remember reading that it affected a few others in the same way so its not swims cup of tea. If I recall correctly i think pipradrol breaks down into some of the same compounds as pcp breaks down into. Don't take my word on it yet i will try to find the info again and get back to you with the details.

[supe]

ok so drug tests generally test for pcp and its metabolites hydroxylate or glucuronide. So my question is, is desoxypipradrol considered a Piperazine? If so their could be some of the same metabolites as pcp, any thoughts?

[fastandbulbous]

It's nothing like PCP & doesn't give any metabolites that are anything like PCP metabolites (in PCP the piperidine ring is attached via the nitrogen atom, in desoxy it's via the carbon adjacent to the nitrogen atom). It's effectively methylphenidate with the methoxycarbonyl group replaced by a phenyl group.

In terms of physical toxicity, it is incredibly benign (toxic dose estimated as >500mg) - psychologically it requires a bit more care as it is a very potent CNS stimulant and excessive dosing runs the risk of overstimulation & paranoia, but that applies to all CNNS stimulants.

From what I've gathered from talking to a lot of people, it has very little compulsion to redose and actually acts to suppress craving for cocaine & amphetamines while still providing a decent amount of euphoria (which is a sight better than the likes of MDPV & itheir obsessive dosing regieme). It's also pretty much free of side effects in most people if taken at the recommended doses (1-5mg).

A lot of the negative reports seem to be from people who have ignored the advice about max dosage and frequency of redosing - any stimulant taken at excessive doses and/or too frequently is going to have the side effects attributed to desoxy

Reputation Comments on this post:

informative info about desoxypipradrol, cheers

[supe]

thanks for the info. Trust me Swim took the recommended dosage just different body/brain chemistry i guess. Any way thanks for helping clear this up, much appreciated

[syntelman]

And it is not a piperazine.
fastandboulbus: Is the toxicity estimation your personal opionion or do you have any references?

Personally I rather like it. However due to it's long duration (recreational dosages keeps me awake for 24 hours more or less) it takes some careful planning, i.e nothing you spontaneously take on a friday evening at ten.

[NeonCortex]

SWINC has thinks it seems to supress cravings for other stimulants, which isn't too surprising considering pharmacokinetics/dynamics.

Does anyone else have any experiences with this compound to share?

[spacehippi13]

So it seems that it doesn't break down into metabolytes that would show up as PCP, but what about metabolytes that show up as anything else commonly tested for in drug testing? --amphetamines, methamphetamines, etc???

I know some of you sexy nerdz can figure thiz out for me and i'd really appreciate the factual information, which i'd gladly research myself if i knew where and how to do so.


oh....and btw as a note to the being that wrote

"Other negative physical effects include my penis being dormant in a flaccid pathetic state throughout the entire time period, despite hornyness."

i'm curious if you were well hydrated during your adventure??? swim has done much research and found it to be a hard truth.....well un-hard truth.... that when guys experience "bad speed dick" and can't get it up, when doing methamphetamine and amphetamine that it is undoubtly due to lack of hydration (in the grand scheme of things mother nature isn't apt to look towards procreation when there seemingly aren't enough resources to nourish the body and therefore "bad speed dick" and "good speed dick"--hard for long time but can't cum-- to a lesser degree the direct result of lack of fluid/nourishment in the body.) so i'm wondering if the same situation occurs with desoxy...


merci beaucoup! bon nuit!

[syntelman]

I find it very unlikely that it should metabolise into any other controlled substance than eventually pipradrol, but as I doubt that anyone will look for that particular drug anyway.

[NeonCortex]

Haven't noticed any "bad speed dick" ( ) with this one...

[NeonCortex]

Ok, withdrawn, maybe a slight bit....

[spacehippi13]

How are hydration and nutrional intake levels? Did the withdrawal begin immediately or only after prolonged exposure to "pippy" (the official un-official nickname of desoxy.....)

[nanobrain]

Originally Posted by spacehippi13

How are hydration and nutrional intake levels? Did the withdrawal begin immediately or only after prolonged exposure to "pippy" (the official un-official nickname of desoxy.....)

great Scott, let us hope not for fear of MOIPLE'S retribution and out of general respect to IUPAC.

hydration plays a part but will do little once the overdosed jonesers find themselves in FEAR land with no way out for a rather whilesome stretch. cue the 40 gangster tapdancers in white suits and tophats singing 'Thats Paranoia'...

[NeonCortex]

Hydration and nutrition of the monkey was good. The slight effect noticed seemed to be a consequence of acute pharmacological action of "pippy".

[NeonCortex]

Did SWINC mention some decent paranoia was felt for the first time ever in his life after 2-3 days of playing with "pippy" ( )? Very alien feeling, I'm glad he quickly identified it as paranoia and could deal with it. Pushing the limits with this substance is something to be careful with.

[rxbandit]

swim has a good quanity of this compound but is frankly a bit intimidated by it. If swim were to take this on say thursday and then go to college class' would he appear cracked out or have difficulty sitting still. After swim hasnt slept for 24 hours + will he feel strung out or manic.

swims very interested in this one however their are some obvious concerns...

[spacehippi13]

Originally Posted by rxbandit

swim has a good quanity of this compound but is frankly a bit intimidated by it. If swim were to take this on say thursday and then go to college class' would he appear cracked out or have difficulty sitting still. After swim hasnt slept for 24 hours + will he feel strung out or manic.

swims very interested in this one however their are some obvious concerns...

swim said that even after 4-5 days of pippy, one can function--think & act--normal = totatly able to go class, work, etc, feel totatly motivated, not cracked out, not paranoid, as long as nutrition and hydration are upheld consistantly, and this is all on a consistant 5ish mg dosage repeated whenever the feeling of "tired" threatens to become overwhelming although even if redose isn't immediate, the half life will continue to perform wonderfully especially if one keeps busy and doesn't lay down with intent to go to sleep...although if one wants to sleep, all one has to do is lay down with intent to rest or meditate and don't stress "trying" to fall asleep, and rest will gently come with an easy wake up sooner or later, whatever the situation may be. this is not followed by jonesing and the good effects are generally still felt to some extent, as motivational mindset and feelings are still present for some amount of time after waking up, without snorting another dosage. (this entire account references snorting the dosage and redosages. and even better....fuckin kinky freakz after the 1st or so redosage---woooo weeee! ohhhh, ohhhh, ohhhhh yeah! and upon further study, the effects of psychedelics and pippy combined, have no consistant effects, so what the hell, have some lsd or dmt if you're feelin frisky!

[syntelman]

Why take a drug at a recreational amount and then go to class at all?
If you are looking for a low-give-me-some-motivation-dose I see no problem but only SWIM will know how he/she specifically reacts at a given dose after trying him/herself.

SWIM here have never stayed up for more than 24 hours on desoxypipradrol, the longest being approximately 20-22 hours with some moderate sleep inbetween. As far as I know only swimmers who are extremely sensitive or people who take too much (or very high doses is maybe a better description depending on who you ask) and or redose constantly stay awake for longer periods than 24 hours. But everything is invidiual. Small motivational doses for studying/work doesnt keep me awake for no more than 12-14 hours, i.e dose in the morning no problems sleeping later at night.

Start low, take 1 or 2 mg. Wait a week and take more if wanted and then continue to raise the dosage slowly and gradually until you find the sweetspot. Don't start with 5 mg and go to class.

[NeonCortex]

5 mgs doesn't do a lot for SWINC, but seems to do the trick for others. For SWINC, 5 mg would be a good morning dose for lectures, etc. Lower than 5 mg is not very noticeable. But that is after evaluating the compound on both lower and higher doses. So if SWIY is a virgin to desoxypipradrol he should probably try 1-3 mg the first time.

Waiting a week is maybe a bit too much on the safe side. SWINC would say it depends on how much was felt on the low first dose. A few days is probably enough to have it leave the system well enough to get a good feel for the new dose.

[rxbandit]

So swim is'nt going to become a strung out insomniac if he doses out low on this one?

If someone could outline their opinion of dose to time stimulated, that would be wonderful. Ideally swim would want to wake up early in the mourning(round 7) and be able to fall asleep around 10pm-1am. Would this be possible, or are the effects generally to long.

Also if swim feels overstimulated or wants to sleep, simply so his next day doesnt suck, could he use either benzodiazipines or serotonin antagonistic anti pyschotics to get some rest?

[syntelman]

"So swim is going to become a strung out insomniac if he doses out low on this one?"

Uhm. No, if I understand you correctly.
Motivational doses (for my Sperm Whale around 3-5 mg) taken in the morning gives him no trouble sleeping at 11pm - zeroish time. But beware! Someone who took 5 mg became extremely stimulated, so you should really really really start low, probably lower than what gives a kick. Start with 1 or 2 mg, and work up as previously recommended. Unless you are extremely sensitive you will have no problems sleeping 12 hours after intake on these doses.

[NeonCortex]

Agree with syntelman - start low and find your own dose. The 24 - 48 hrs of strong stimulation is a pretty strong exaggeration ISWINCO.