K-hole... yes please.

[Diba420]

SWIM has experimented with K on more than several occasions but has never taken a large dosage. SWIM is ready to experience a k-hole. SWIM has done a bit of research and has come to the conclusion that you must take double your body weight (nasally) in mg in order to reach a k-hole. SWIM weighs 160 pounds and is 5'6. SWIM has obtained a vail of k with some of it already used up so is unable to accurately find out how much has remained. How much of what is left would SWIM need to achieve a k-hole. One or two of these lines? More than that? Less than that? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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[Diba420]

Ah, also SWIM's K was sealed, and cooked under supervision so it is not cut.

[ProtectedByTheGods]

Does SWIY have the drug in liquid form from the vial?
Then it should be easy to inform SWIYself about how many mg is in each cc.
The label on the bottle should tell SWIY what's business.
Then all SWIM does it calculate the correct dose through his bodyweight,
suck the amount into a intramuscular syringe and shoot it the way it is
described over and over in the Ketamine forum.

If all SWIY has are those lines of powder, SWIM would suggest that SWIY
further divides them up into smaller lines, and then start railing them one
after another, about 1 line every 15-20 minutes, until the desired effect
is achieved. Remember, Ketamine is a rather safe drug. SWIYs nostril would
probably be plugged shut before he could overdose.

K-holing is much achieved much easier via IM rather than insufflated.

EDIT: sorry, by the time I wrote this, I hadn't read your second post.
SWIY could still dissolve the powder in a sterile injectable liquid, but
if SWIY doesn't know for sure how many ccs were in the vial before cooking,
the resulting solution might have a dosage difficult to judge.

Best thing for SWIY to do would be to calculate the amount of substance
from the data on the vial and the amount of liquid boiled down....
That is of course assuming SWIY hasn't got a scale, which would
make things so much easier.

[psychedelaholic]

I take it SWIY is going to insufflate his K?

All depends on SWIM's tolerance. For some people snorting one healthy 150mg line is enough to hole them, other's like SWIM need more like 400mg (SWIM is 150lb)

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by psychedelaholic

For some people snorting one healthy 150mg line is enough to hole them, other's like SWIM need more like 400mg (SWIM is 150lb)

It depends what you mean by a "K-hole". This usually means a completely disscocated state in which the uswer is unaware of his body and identity. About 100-150 mg should get you there. 400 mg will just put you in a state of anesthesia (totally unconscoius), ready for an operation, but you won't remember a thing.

The point of enjoying ketamine is to be conscious enough to be aware of what you are exepericing, unless being unconscoius is something you value.

[Diba420]

SWIM had to take the label off as a precaution so incase someone found the vail they wouldn't be able to identify what it was off that bat. SWIM recalls it being 1000mg/10ml but isn't sure if thats what it said. The reason SWIM put the pictures on is because some of the vail is already used up and SWIM would like to know visually how much it would take to achieve a k-hole.

[psychedelaholic]

Originally Posted by enquirewithin

It depends what you mean by a "K-hole". This usually means a completely disscocated state in which the uswer is unaware of his body and identity. About 100-150 mg should get you there. 400 mg will just put you in a state of anesthesia (totally unconscoius), ready for an operation, but you won't remember a thing.

The point of enjoying ketamine is to be conscious enough to be aware of what you are exepericing, unless being unconscoius is something you value.

SWIM is fully aware of what a K-hole is and it does take SWIM at least 400mg usually to take him there. 150mg normally gets him a bit wonky but never gets him close to ego-loss and unawareness of his own body and consciousness. It's all to do with tolerance. SWIM has been using K for around 1 1/4 years, 150mg used to put him in that state but nowadays it takes a whole lot more.

[gplant]

300-400mg should do it

[Paracelsus]

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27787

Beltane sais 1 mg/lb when insufflated.

[Diba420]

Well thanks for all your help. SWIM thinks he got it! And even if he didn't, the results were astonishing regardless. SWIM ended up playing some relaxing new age music and turned off all the lights except my computer monitor. SWIM railed ~200mg and 10 minutes after railed another 50-70mg. SWIM was very suprised he was getting INTENSE visuals. SWIM had never experienced this on Ket before. The visuals and color distortions became so intense that they took over my vision. SWIM saw things he can not fully explain. SWIM felt like he was learning how the sun came into existence. If it was even the sun for that matter. SWIM feels like the trip was trying to explain something so significant, something so important but wasn't fully able to grasp it. It had to do the meaning of life and fertalization of living things. SWIM believed he was in a K-hole but not completely sure what even happened. If you ask SWIM if he was unable to move. He honestly would not be able to say yes or no. SWIM remembers becoming comfortably numb, then the visuals started and then lost complete awareness of his surroundings. All I can say is that was the most intense psychedelic experience SWIM has ever had. SWIM has taken mushies before. The most being 7grams at once. SWIM has also taken 4 hits of blotter at once also. However, they are uncomparable to this experience. Based on what definanitions of K-holes SWIM has read, he thinks this fits the discription. He believes this was it. What does SWIY think?

[JumpinJackFlash]

Yeah 1 mg per lb is Erowid's line (pardon the pun) aswell. Aslong as SWIDiba had a good time that's all that matters, 400mg! that's a big hole, SWIU will hit China soon i'm sure. Drugs are weird, people are weirder, individual characteristics certainly play a role in these things.

[Beltane]

The idea of SWIY snorting all that K saddens SWIM. Mix 100mg per 1 ml distilled water and IM inject a 100 mg dose. SWIM's honest opininion is that to do otherwise is a waste.

And that to do as instructed will show SWIY the true meaning of the K-hole, or that place good people go when they die; some call it heaven.

- Beltane

[Hartmut_FF]

As I heard a K-hole picks up the most recent thinks in the brain and mixes this with older memories and feeling. SWIM said that he had philosophoical discussions in a K-Hole or even draws line from a recent stay in hospital to an execution scene in the Tudor periode from a movie, which was quite horror full. Other expirencies I heard of are more abstract, of the "being" loosing its identity and moving in a abstract space as a form of hyper-reality; not paricular pleasurable, neither fearfully, but highly interesting.

I also learned form other persons' experiences that they had in the K-Hole to most breathtaking sex.

Of all thinks I heard about K-Holes I think they are interesting places, but not always heaven, sometime they can be also hell.

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SWIM uses K IV; the effect is even more sudden than IM, within 10-20 sec. - so he has barely time to take care about the needle. The full effect runs for about 20-45 min., about 20 min. leter he is in the position to do simple tasks, at latest 2-3 hours after the injection he is fit enough to leave house without any further danger.