Poppy Tea Preparation

PLEASE POST SWIM'S FAVORITE TEA RECIPE HERE




P. som. Tazmanian are supposed to be the strongest with up to 20 % M. The strain was "made" for pharmaceutical use. Seeds do work in theory, but you need very large amounts, way more than using grinded poppy pods.


About california poppy pods the opinions differ, i would not spend my money on those. Favoured are tazmanians, gigantheums, nigrums, persian whites, hen&chickens.


For tea its best to mix water and alcohol in a ratio 3:1. you can also use wodka or some other 40% alcohol. put your grinded pods into a cooking pot or whatever, cover it with your wodka and heat it up for 20 minutes (some prefer longer brews but 20 minutes are ok). do not exceed 80 C because Morphine starts to break down at temperatures higher than 85 C. Let it filter through a normal coffee filter then or a kitchen towel (the kitchen towel tea will be stronger, because more plant material will pass). drink it. it will taste gross. but the good medicine always tates gross...

[msimm]

What about just eating the plant matter? SWIM always boiled his first,
strained to make a small cup of tea (hate the taste) then ate all the
remaining plant material. Seemed to work well (even when he got around
to eating the then re-dried material the next day).







Anyone else? Seems more efficient then the double extraction (and all that tea drinking).







There was a good thread at poppies.org about fungicides/pesticides and the importance (or perceived importance) of washing them.

Washing is a must. you never know. and also: when you get your pods, grind them all and put it together because some pods always contain more m or thebaine than others, while low m is only annoying, high thebaine really sucks. by mixing you have a steady level of all alkaloids. success!

[msimm]

I'll second mixing them all together. Its a good way to standardize
your material, then you can begin by dosing carefully to establish a
baseline and know every time you make tea from that batch your not
going to get too much of anything. Getting sick really isn't any fun
and we all know how much variation there can be in plant material.

[tippsy25]

so how many pods does SWIM need to make this tea, just enuff for him? do they have to be dried pods or are they suppoested to be fresh? can someone plz give him proper direction on how to make the tea from scratch....He has the plant in the back yard, its ready to be used......plz help

Its always difficult to tell how much someone needs. i dont want to tell you something that makes you overdose. that wont kill you and make you throw up when it gets really bad but still. it depends on so many things: quality, size of the pods, your weight, youre tolerance to opies. for me when i havent consumed in a while 5 are enough. just take your bunch and look what the average size is. of those you take 4 grind them and messure that with a teaspoon - this wayyou know how much you need next time. have fun. and report us.

tippsy i dont know what you mean by "from scratch" (you know..my english) butlet me guess:


option 1: you want to scratch the latex from your pods. depending on how many plants you have the stuff is definately the best. but usually you get far less than one gr. per plant especially when youre not used to harvesting and when you dont have many plants it isnt worth the work. if you do, you can still keep the plant and make tea out of that. using harvested o an over the thumb rule is that about 2 gr. kill someone who isnt used to it. i would use 1 gr.


option 2: "from the scratch" is a very cool way to say in english that you take your plant right from the place, fresh and green style. then you can just messure it like with dried poppies. although opinions differ also about that, if fresh plants are better. some say yes some say no. i once only needed 2 pods for a good bang from freshies but another time 5 had almost no effect.


so... i hope that helped you some.

[tippsy25]

well SWIM means the second one there....yes he has plants in the "back yard" and he wanna know how to make it after he pic them, as in, does he let them dry or fresh, but u asnwered that above, so he is gonna let them dry first as he is in no such hurry.

You dont really need to dry them, i think the effect is pretty much the same. at least drying them doesnt make them stronger. just make sure you get all the stuff out of the grinder, it will pretty much stick on the walls. yes start with 3, 4 pods. only if you want to dry them for storing make sure that you dont cut them too early - the pods will shrink really bad. a golf ball can become a penny i can tell you. wait until the pod has hardened out then hang them upside down so the goodies can run in the pod. you can also use the stems so dont throw those away, youll just need more of them, maybe x3. but when you built in your garden i guess you want to make as much as possible of your plant.





so success!

[msimm]

SWIM has always just used the pods and thrown the stems and seed out. You
might get more alkaloids using them. he would start low with 2-3 pods,
you might want to start with 2 using the whole thing just in case there
are a lot of alkaloids in there. Its always better to be careful then
to end up in the ER trying to explain yourself. Thats also why its good
to buy a lot, spend the extra time grinding it all up before you use
it, mixing it all together so you have a safe, standardised batch.
People have died from tea, so don't go getting all reckless on us. =)

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Here's SWIMS recipe for poppy head tea. If made with plain water it
usually tastes like ass. Make it this way for a beverage that
tastes as good as it feels:



SWIM usually has a fairly easy time of coming across P. Somniferum v.
giganthemum pods at the local flower shop. The nice little old
lady in there sells them, 3-4 inches around, already drilled and the
seeds gone, and the stems are only 1-2 inches long. Not the long
stem ones you usually find at flower shops. They "must be for tea"
instead of arrangements She sells
them for $0.25 per pod, and these big pods, on average, weigh 5 grams
each. That makes SWIMS tea buzzes a quarter, or 50 cents each,
depending on how strong he wants it.



Anyway, from this source I find that 5 grams is usually a good starting
point for a buzz. It's always better to specify a weight rather
than how many pods, because different type pods weigh differrently each
one. You can get a nice digital kitchen scale that weighs up to
1KG, and can be selected for grams or ounces, at those kitchen supply
stores for around $20.



Now you need to find some Yogi Tea (available from on-line herb shops,
or your local health food store). Yogi Tea consists of a mix of
cinnamon, black pepper, cardamom, ginger, cloves, fennel, and licorice
root. Put about 1 teaspoon of yogi tea in 12 ounces of water (per
serving), bring to a boil, and simmer for 20 minutes.



While the yogi tea is cooking, break up your pods by hand and place in
a coffee grinder, grind it to a powder. After the 20 minutes of cooking
the yogi tea, and with the heat still on the pot, add all the poppy
head powder, and stir while heating for 2 minutes. Now turn off
the heat and let it steep for 15-20 minutes more.



Run the whole mess through one of those wire-mesh kitchen strainers and
into your cup. The wire mesh strainer will catch all the yogi tea
bits, and the coarser pieces of poppy. Sweeten to taste with
honey, drink and enjoy. A shot of Bailey's Irish Creme in there
is nice too, but not needed. Either way it will be quite tasty.



Do not filter with coffee filters or the like, just use the coarse wire
mesh strainer. It's OK and even desireable to have the fine poppy
powder sludge in your cup, there's good stuff to make you happy in that
sludge. So remember to keep stirring your cup as you drink it, to
get all that sludge down the hatch.



As peeps have mentioned above, you CAN OD on poppy head tea. And
to specify how many pods to use can be dangerous. In my
experience, most of the pods have roughly the same strength to them by
weight. But pods can be small, 1-1.5 inches diameter, and pods
can be large, 3-4 inches diameter, or anything in between. 3-4
small pods can be the same buzz as one giant one. So I urge
anyone who wants to do this to buy a cheap digital kitchen food scale,
and use it like a religion. Peeps who are not regular opiate users
should start off with 5 grams by weight of pod material. You can
always work your way up from there.



Don't be drinking or already drunk, and then decide to have poppy
tea. The synergistic action of alcohol and opiates can kill
you. Also as mentioned above, the buzz can take a while to come
on, and it will last a long time, 8 hours easily. So if you take
your tea made from 5 grams of pod material (defined as the dry pod flesh without any seeds or stems), and you think it might not
be enough, wait 90-120 minutes after the first cup to be sure it isn't
enough before you prepare a "booster" cup of tea. Please be safe,
and enjoy



If you are using seeds and or stems, you'll need more than 5 grams dry
weight material, as they are weaker than the pods. The entire
plant, rooots, stems, leaves, seeds and pods contains opium, but the
highest concentration is in the fleshy part of the pods.


Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

Reputation Comments on this post:

Nice informing tea recipe, SWIM is going to enjoy some later !

[Henfer]

just fyi, as swim found some interesting information:

there was a study in his home country, about morphine content in usual poppy seeds... and content ranges from 9mg morphine per kilo, to the highest containing, hold your breath, 330mg morphine per kilo poppy seeds.

so, depending which one you use, you could VERY EASILY overdose.. swim has tooth pain because of his wisdom tooth, and he made poppy tea out of 250g of the more potent ones (the research was published), and yeah...

can't get any better

[MrJim]

Who did the research Henfer?

[Henfer]

the study was done by the institution that tests more or less everything, from electrical stuff to food.

just as interesting, the brands that are connected to high morphine, also contain more other stuff other than poppy seeds, for example small pieces of what looks a bit woody. so it's most likely they were not washed very well. the study does not say if the package contains so much morphine or the poppy seeds themselves, but it's suggested, that poppy seeds to contain more morphine than people thought.

swim won't do poppy tea anymore for sure, his stomach hurted till yesterday evening - that's more than 3 days...

[Tortoise]

Originally Posted by Henfer

just as interesting, the brands that are connected to high morphine, also contain more other stuff other than poppy seeds, for example small pieces of what looks a bit woody. so it's most likely they were not washed very well. the study does not say if the package contains so much morphine or the poppy seeds themselves, but it's suggested, that poppy seeds to contain more morphine than people thought.

That's odd because Swim noticed the seed packs that contain these "extra bits" have actually proven to be less potent.

[samuraigecko]

The following is a theoretical story.

SWIM never cared much for poppy tea in previous years. He always stuck with smoking the raw gum or cooked opium from his harvests of various strains.

Recently he has started to make a "tea" (probably more adequately called a solution or even a laudanum) but sort of a "tea" none the less.

Upon pondering various thing he had read SWIM thought to himself that he would try a "tea" variant just for fun. He cared not for the methods described as he is a fairly cautious style person and did not want to risk an OD because of his age. He pondered and pondered until he thought of a way to produce a controlled dose which he knew to be safe (for him - he has opiate tolerance, this in no way suggests that anyone else try this and is, in fact, discouraged).

Method.

Since he had smoked around 0.4 to 0.5 gram of his so called "flake" or cooked Opium per night he decided that this would be a great starting point for his calculations.

He decided to dissolve 0.4 gram per 50ml of liquid into a 750ml bottle (a common bottle size) of a particular wine he likes. He prepared a stove pot of adequate size to accommodate the liquid with a bit of room left for other things be decided to add.

Into the wine he infused with a very small amount of heat a couple of cinnamon sticks and a vanilla stick over an hour (care must be taken here as all know that too much heat can destroy the opiates). After letting the wine cool he then decantered the wine back into the bottle removing the cinnamon and vanilla before hand. He then let this sit for a further few days (although this is probably unnecessary).

This gave him a solution of 6 grams of cooked opium in the 750ml bottle. A very decent dosage in anyones opinion. This can also be more easily controlled. If one was to put 50ml into a glass they would already know how much opium is in that glass (if one was already familiar with their own tolerance and dosages), In this instance 0.4 gram.

SWIMs recipe overview.

1x bottle of favorite wine.
6x grams of cooked opium.
2x cinnamon sticks.
1x vanilla stick.
1x stove top pot (stainless).
1x stirring device (non porous, I.E: plastic or steel not wood).

Wine into pot.
Dissolve the cooked opium into the wine over an extremely low heat allowing the cinnamon and vanilla to infuse also over a period of 1 hour.
Allow to cool.
Decant back to bottle.
Leave for a day or two (unsure if necessary).

Usage: 25 to 50ml depending on tolerance. (for SWIM and his friends only).

Notes: SWIM is unsure if any acetylation may occur as a result of the acetic acids present in wines and vinegars. Expected levels of Acetic acid found in wine are only 0.1-0.8 g/L so SWIM is unsure and doubtful of any acetylation occurring even though it did produce a powerful and more heroin like effect.

[samuraigecko]

Most effective in lab rats is to produce cooked opium rather than tea preparations in theory.

[gplant]

swim is having trouble proucing a strong tea. in a book he owns it says to use 10 dried fair sized pods, or roughly 10g. Next you bring 2 cups of water to a boil, onc eit has boiled run your groudn up poppy heads in it. swim has tried it with no luck. he is growing papaver somniferum, everything seems good except for the potency. what color should the tea be?

[Emmajs]

Tea makes SWIM nauseas so he just mixes grounds with grapefruit juice. really doesn't taste too bad and he only needs 2/3 as many flowers for the same view.

[SanPerro]

omg(x3) and then u can evaporate it into some sort of pseudo-opium..i have seen this being done..

BTW yesterday i had my first trip ever. Viva la Hash

[Tortoise]

Swim tried evaporating tea into opium. Didn't work...

[nononono15]

do poppys from the grocery store work? ive heard that regardless of being washed or not, they contain some morphine, is this true?

[samuraigecko]

The following is a theoretical hypothesis put forth by a 3 toed sloth.

poppy seed from the grocery store will generally sprout at a rate of about 10/1 and sometimes even as high as 5/1 (they have been "treated" so as not to be able to sprout) Poppy seed in a grocery store is generally washed but will still contain Morphine. The amounts are extremely varied and unpredictable, and sometimes none at all. Source discussion is not allowed so one cannot give you a singular place for something like that other than to mention that health food shops are rather . . . . healthy.

[Archenemy]

SWIM is looking at buying some dried poppy heads which are fairly cheap.

But SWIM is unsure if they are ok to use for making a tea, because the description states that it is not intended for human consumption. Is that just a precaution the store takes, or is that due to a outer coating?

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by Archenemy

SWIM is looking at buying some dried poppy heads which are fairly cheap.

But SWIM is unsure if they are ok to use for making a tea, because the description states that it is not intended for human consumption. Is that just a precaution the store takes, or is that due to a outer coating?

In the three toed sloths theory it Does not contain any coating that SWIM knows of, but there are always exceptions. Ones guess that is that it would say that to deter people from misusing the pods.

hope this has helped. cheers