Dose - How much is a K-Binge?

[Beltane]

SWIM sees this term a lot and wonders what others think constitutes a K-Binge.

SWIM will answer, but would like to see some responses first. SWIM can also post data for 3 other K users he knows so hoepfully there will be a range and/or consensus. Looking for amount done, method and over what length of time.

- Beltane

[primal440]

Did SWIB's K-Binge consisted of snorted or injected K? Maybe both?
Bingin on K seems to be much more in frame with power than liquid, since it gives a certain format from where the user can extend the length and time and progressive overcoming of the drug that is more characteristic to intranasal.
Being SWIM's account, he has never snorted K, only shot and the idea of binging never appealed to him after the second big shot but he has experimented with regularly applying little doses (37 and 50 mgs) via IM over the span of about 5/7 hours. I dont know if that counts. The other time SWIM "binged" on K was giving himself 3 IM doses of 100-150-200 mgs spaced between one hour each, with a booster 50 mgs IV dose for the finale and middle. After this SWIM was no longer appealed to the idea of applying more K, he just ended up too numb and tolerant from the K, and the after-effects where the strongest he ever felt.

From other users experiences it seems that intranasal K is much better suited for binging, as it permits a regular and gradual up-dosing, a smoother curve better fit for recreational value; this goes on until eventually one has enough K in the bloodstream to enter the big Hole, a process which is then repeated as much as the user wants. The idea of a K-Binge seems obviously more directed towards recreation and partying than just getting oneself a K-Hole. I'm told that these binges usually last all night (like 7 hours approx.) or until users just pass out.

One more thing: Visually, somehow snorting fits much better with this and doesn't carry that much stigma, I at least associate the word 'binging' with snorting much more than with injecting but that is so subjective.

[k-skywalker]

swim only snorts and can go for days with occasional sleep and stop for meals. A couple of lines each hour, one for each nostril, but then after a good few hours may have to wait until his nose unblocks. It's good to have other commitments which prevent one from doing this but when one gets a few days of no commitments its hard not to.

"thats about enough k ... will go do some normal stuff after few hours sleep ... " (wakes up) "hmmm maybe just a few more lines first "

[Beltane]

SWIM doesn't snort K, he IM's it and, very occasionally, IV's it.

SWIM isn't answering his own question yet, but when posing the question, SWIM was thinking more in terms of number of bottles (10ml/100mg per ml) over number or days. That doesn't sound any SWIYs here so far, but SWIM's pretty sure such people exist as he knows of them, second hand of course.

SWIM might feel completely alone if he didn't read about a guy in Karl Jansen's book (Ketamine : Dreams and Realities-- if you like/do K you MUST read this book, I mean MUST) didn't talk about shooting 4 bottles per day.

Anyway, let's see if anyone else weighs in on what the term K-Binge means to SWIThem, and frankly, if it's not number of bottles IM'd over number of days then you are a much more recreational/responsible Ketamine user than SWIM, but this question may not apply to you, and I mean that in the nicest way.

Still very curious-

- Beltane

[JumpinJackFlash]

One line is too much, as a representitive of Narcotics Anonymous I am signing SWIU all up to the 12 step program

[Beltane]

SWIM's K binges last 3 to 5 (occassionally as many as 8) days. During such a binge, SWIM IM injects 3 bottles per day.

a 3 day, 8 bottle run would be the low end of what SWIM would consider a binge.

- Beltane

[podge]

That's a shit load of ket beltane. Does the k hole still feel as sweet as when swiy first started, and has swiy never snorted ? Does swiy take any other drugs ? Sorry for such strange question's....swim has just recently been to the k hole for the first few time's and is interested in an extremely heavy user's view and habit's.

[Beltane]

Once a user injects intramuscularly, they usually come to see it as the designated means of administration. So SWIM snorted some K a few years ago, nothing happened, went home zed read about it and decided to IM it first chance he got.

That chance came about 2 years later when another explorer wanted to what it was like so he handled all the gear. Not long after that SWIM was a self sufficient on/off binge user.

After a break of a week or more-- I should keep better track-- SWIM still enters a K-hole, though he does 200mg as a fist shot these days.

It's all about location. Standing physically in Tijuana will sell me an un-opened, sealed bottle for the price of 2 large pizzas with everything. In the US the same stuff, and almost never in a sealed vial, will run me 3X that amount So SWIM brings home 10 bottles or so, with someone to save a few. Haven't found a plan that works yet. Looking next into bank safe deposit box

Has SWIY never IM injected K? SWIM Feels very strongly that that is THE way to experience the ride.

- Beltane

[podge]

Swim has never IM or IV'd anything. Perhaps if K were available to him in liquid form he would try it but for now swim can only obtain cooked K , mexico is long way from here.lol. Swiy felt nothing from snorting ?....strange. Swim feels definate effects from snorting even small line's and swim made it to the k hole with around a third of a gram. How many dose's does swiy get from a bottle ? Does swiy have an interest in alice d or any other psychedelic's or is katie the only woman for him?

[Beltane]

SWIM's done with heavy psychadelics. K is always a gentle ride, that's why he likes it.

Powdered K can be mixed 1 gram with 10ml distilled water and injected intramuscularly with an insulin syringe. SWIM strongly suggests trying it if SWIY really likes K. It's light years better.

- Beltane

[podge]

Originally Posted by Beltane

Powdered K can be mixed 1 gram with 10ml distilled water and injected intramuscularly with an insulin syringe.

Would this be enough for only one dose?

[Beltane]

The perfect IM dose is 100mg, so mixing a gram with 10ml of distilled water would yield 10 perfect doses.

Check out this site: xxxxxxxxx

for how to do IM injections. They're easier than falling off a log.

Report back-

- Beltane

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[podge]

Swim will consider this another while and let swiy know what happens. Cheers.

[Beltane]

In SWIM's opinion it's like the difference between fucking bareback and jerking off to a picture of a fat chick. Little drunk, but that's what comes to mind.

- Beltane

[podge]

Originally Posted by Beltane

In SWIM's opinion it's like the difference between fucking bareback and jerking off to a picture of a fat chick. Little drunk, but that's what comes to mind.

- Beltane

Haha. Nice analogy. Like a lot of people swim does'nt like the idea of injecting anything....but it's not something swim cant get over. When swim get's his hands on more K and finds himself an unused needle he will take the plunge.

[Beltane]

If everyone could see the difference between an IV and and IM injection, people would be a lot less freaked out about needles.

It's the difference between a drive in the country and a formula-1 race.

IM is really no big deal.

- Beltane

[podge]

If swim had someone experienced with needle's to inject for swim it would be a lot easier, but swim know's no one who inject's anything. Swim will be nervous initially piercing the skin but swim is sure it'll be fine. Or perhaps swim can find a hot nursing student to do all the dirty work.....! Swim can always dream anyway. :L

[Beltane]

Look, an IM injection works like this. Load a full 1 CC insulin syringe with your mixture of K/distilled water so that you've got 100mg K in the load.

Easiest site possible is your butt. Theoretically draw a line halway between left and right side of one cheek, then draw a theoretical line halfway between top and bottom half. Now one wants to aim for the upper/outer quadrant.

Load syringe, PM me if you have any questions here. Tap it like they do on TV to make sure there's no air bubbles. Now clean injection site with alcohol soaked cotton or a swab or whatever. Now instert the needle (28 gauge, 1CC insulin syringe) like a dart, it's painless. Pull back on the plunger, there should be a vacuum effect if one has landed in fat/muscle and that's what'll happen. Now depress the plunger and in 2 min it'll start to kick in. Be laying down not long after this.

Enjoy the next hour and then spend the rest of your life while SWIY ever snorted it.

- Beltane

[Beltane]

Does SWIY know any diabetics? SWIY could also go to pharm and say he's waiting on a test to see if he's diabetiec remove all fear. would like to learn about injecting insulin as he's sacred. they'll show swity what up.

- Beltane

Originally Posted by podge

If swim had someone experienced with needle's to inject for swim it would be a lot easier, but swim know's no one who inject's anything. Swim will be nervous initially piercing the skin but swim is sure it'll be fine.

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Excellent advice given all throughout the thread

[podge]

Ah, good idea. Swims cashflow aint so good right now , waiting to start a new job next week. But when swim gets his next batch of K he will inject he thinks .....swim love's what he feels from snorting but it just doesnt get swim where he wants to be. And the though of ten decent K hole's from a gram sounds sweet. Cheer's for the advice.

[DonPeyote]

The last "K-Binge" that my cat experienced was 20 grams in about 2 weeks.
Whenever my damn Cat gets near Tijuana, of course he wants to visit his favourite Vet supply store (Yes, my Cat has a drivers license!). The Cat started at little IM's of .25 CC's, every 15 - 20 minutes. Towards the end, tolerance had built to 1cc per shot.

So basically, that was being on K all day, every day for 2 weeks!!!

Damn, that Cat is/was/will always be addicted to K!

Good thing the Kitty lives far from the border now.....


DP