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Old 09-04-2007, 07:55
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Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

SWIM got some meth that was horribly cut. SWIM said it tastes and smells like brocoli when smoked. SWIM has no interest/know how about how to "clean" it and wants to know if it should be snorted or smoked. Oh, what is it cut with....it's not gonna kill SWIM, is it?
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

99% chance it wont kill you,dealors like to keep thier cliants alive ive noticed.either clean it up,im sure you can find a howto on the site somewhere.or just ignore the fact its cut like all street drugs and do it.swim likes hot rails.take a crack pipe and heatup one end really hot like red hot witha blow torch make sure you have a pice of shorboy in there thats not very tightly packed then makeing sure the other ends not hot you snort a line with it.dont know how good this is for you but its swims favorite way to do meth that isnt clean enuf to boot.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

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99% chance it wont kill you,dealors like to keep thier cliants alive ive noticed.either clean it up,im sure you can find a howto on the site somewhere.or just ignore the fact its cut like all street drugs and do it.swim likes hot rails.take a crack pipe and heatup one end really hot like red hot witha blow torch make sure you have a pice of shorboy in there thats not very tightly packed then makeing sure the other ends not hot you snort a line with it.dont know how good this is for you but its swims favorite way to do meth that isnt clean enuf to boot.
Hi....SWIM was looking for an answer to this question also but SWIM does not have a crack pipe (we have a small glass pipe) and what is a "shorboy"??
Anyway, SWIM just paid alot for some badly cut ice also and would like to know an easy way to purify about 2 grams or less.
SWIM knows the stuff is cut because it has a very nasty smell and taste and leaves brownish black in the pipe. Is there an easy way to clean this?
Thanks...
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Old 30-01-2009, 12:03
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

wrap it up in some tissue paper and eat it all at once.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Just keep the flame lower than normal and keep the pipe still....Just melt off the damn cut yo!

Swims dope usually turns yellow from cut, just melt it off and any resin left behind won't hurt swiy.....At least swim tells himself that haha
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Old 10-02-2009, 15:28
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Or get some coffee filters and some acetone and wash it-put it in the filter and twist it so it's in a ball and dip it a couple times in a bit of acetone you have in a cup or a bowl. After dipping it remove from the filter and lay out to dry which shouldn't take long. Most of the garbage/cut should be washed off and swiy should be left w/mostly decent stuff.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Morrison is totally correct! Just make sure you use 100% acetone and not fingernail polish remover.. if you want to try a small amount you can put the dirty on a plate and pour the acetone (half a cap.. no need to waste time n acetone) just let it air dry or if you are in a hurry lightly blow dry it.. the chuncks left is the good stuff but there is more waste with this method
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

sell the crap and go buy good shit
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

If SWIY is just gonna smoke (or hotrail) the shit, Smoking's advice will work fine.

The acetone method is a snap but, it's not necessary for smokers (since SWIY is gonna heat it in the donkey anyway) SWIM finds acetone more useful for shooters.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Any idiot can cut meth these days with a magical substance thats gonna burn a whole lot cleaner than untouched dope produced in a backyard lab.... Dont be fooled by it not burning clear as it being cut... Its just not made as pure/ washed etc

Acetone does not remove cuts... This is a myth... It might clean the dope up a bit but the number 1 cutting agent used in meth these days is still gonna be there.....
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Old 30-03-2009, 16:50
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

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It might clean the dope up a bit but the number 1 cutting agent used in meth these days is still gonna be there.....
What is the number one cutting agent for meth today and do you have a specific source of this information ? Thanks.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Around here, it'd probably be an even tie between Shark Scale and ordinary Rock or Sea Salt
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

If it's salt of some sort, it should be soluble in water, and in which case, wouldn't it work to just soak it in some water?

(no experience in this whatsoever, just a thought, for all i know, this method may kill you)
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

it all depends how much swiy has, if lots then clean, if not dont waste it just get on with it!
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Old 04-04-2009, 18:25
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

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Acetone does not remove cuts... This is a myth... It might clean the dope up a bit but the number 1 cutting agent used in meth these days is still gonna be there.....
swim disagrees, the primary cutting agent is readily soluble in acetone, whereas dope is not (slighly soluable, due to water content in acetone). swiy may not be able to remove 100% of the cutting agent but will be able to reduce it by a fair amount. Acetone also removes nasty chemical remnants left behind. swim only smokes it, you dont want any chemical byproducts or cut in your dope, it will ruin your high. for swim, almost all side effects are caused by byproducts/cut/burnt dope. try to avoid melting the cut out if possible, as stated, the resin cooks in your dope, causing dope to burn quicker and causing many side effects.

The brockle taste and smell can be removed with acetone, that is in fact cut. try the coffee filter method in acetone first as you will loose less dope that way. often times, swim has noticed cut not being very soluable in acetone at cold temps and has used a different method. pour about a cap full in a shotglass or candleglass (something small and relatively thin to make recovering easier), boil acetone BE CAREFUL, ACETONE IS EXTREMLY FLAMABLE!!! Slightly tilt cup so all acetone is in one corner and dump your dope in the acetone, let soak for a couple seconds, or even boil again, just be quick about it, you will lose dope too!!! slowly tilt glass in the other direction so the dope is no longer submerged and let dry.

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Around here, it'd probably be an even tie between Shark Scale and ordinary Rock or Sea Salt
Seriously? swim has never heard of rock salt being commonly used (at least for smokers, it would require a torch, and snorters would taste it. swim could see shooters being slipped salt, but that shit wouldnt fly around there). And Shark Scale? swim assumes what cutting agent being used is relative to location and what is available and swiy lives in the coastal range. And swim can see a problem with acetone removing salt and scales

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If it's salt of some sort, it should be soluble in water, and in which case, wouldn't it work to just soak it in some water?
Unfortunatly, dope is extremely soluable in water also. swim is not sure if salts are soluable in alcohol, as dope is also soluable in alcohol? nice thought though.

dickshivers added 3 Minutes and 10 Seconds later...

O, and make sure swiy use glass with acetone, it will melt plastic and when combined with dope can dissolve aluminum

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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Swim disagrees... primary cutting agent these days is MSM and acetone won't get rid of it!
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

swim says just throw all of it on the foil, cut will burn off first usually
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

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Swim disagrees... primary cutting agent these days is MSM and acetone won't get rid of it!
What is MSM? There seems to be a lot of different views on what are the (most common) cutting agents. It would be nice to at least have the exact names.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

MSM is Methylsulfonylmethane/dimethylsulfone (DMSO2), white crystalline solid. It is used as a solvent and as a dietary supplement.

The Use of Heat to Eliminate Dimethyl Sulfone from Amphetamine and Methamphetamine Hydrochloride
MICROGRAM; 1999; V32 (1); January; P10

It is frequently the case that samples of methamphetamine hydrochloride or amphetamine hydrochloride are mixed exclusively with dimethyl sulphone. In order to isolate the controlled substances from the dimethyl sulphone, therefore, the sample was heated in a convection oven for 10 minutes at a temperature of 115°C. As the sample was heated, the dimethyl sulphone sublimated, leaving behind the methamphetamine hydrochloride or amphetamine hydrochloride. If this process does not work, then heating the sample for a further 10 minutes should solve the problem.

Solubility of DMSO2 in acetone : 15.36 @25°C (g/100 ml of Solvent)

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thanks, solid info
Excellent tidbit - solid, factual, practical.

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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

why put it in the oven m8 xD, swims just throw all that on a big piece of heavy foil ( hope swiy got a decent price if its bogus) melt it down, fire it up and chase xD swim finds that most ppl doing the cuttin aren't blending well , and there will be sweetspots in a batch that are ridiculously pure and then the rest of cut which is ridiculously unpure, if swiy isn't smoking swim say best to rext it b/c swiy rly doesn't know wut its gonna be cut with especially with local labs poppin up everywhere lately

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Interesting observation. I notice the separation too when heating.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

If you wish to smoke it, burining off the cuts about ur best option, and easy to do. As the other posters have already pointed out.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Can someone give a detailed explaination of exactly how swiy would go about burning off the cut? I've seen other people do this in a pipe, but not very well...
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Just apply minimum heat to the product, enough to get it to smoke but always keep the glass bowl not too hot, too hot of temps will vaporize more meth than necessary which is bad... Do this for a while and all the cut will get "burnt" off, after you feel the cut has been removed enough for you, proceed to hit.

Take little hits along the way to check ur progress, u will tell as more and more cut gets vaporized out of what you eventually will be smoking. When it gets down to the meth you usually blow out big white clouds of smoke, the cut most commonly doesn't produce much smoked when inhaled then exhaled.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

Hi - first of all, SWIgo180go120 appreciates the information in this and some of the other threads concerning methamphetamine quality/purity/purification, so (on his behalf), thanks. Apparently SWIgogo has been getting some very impure product lately and was hoping to find an effective technique for thoroughly cleaning it that would work to eliminate most cuts and impurities even if it meant seeing just how little of the pure the stuff he's getting. So SWIgogo has attempted to clean his product using at least 3 different methods (in no particular order) -- (i) a quick rinse/swirl in distilled water immediately filtered into a drying dish (meth being more soluble in water than most contimanants from what SWIgogo has read, (ii) a single solvent cleaning with dry Acetone and (iii) a dual solvent re-crystallization using dry Acetone and de-naturated alcohol; in some cases he's tried multiple approaches to the same method in an effort to maximize the results, but he still isn't satisfied with the results. It seems that in each case, when SWIgogo goes to smoke his cleaned/washed meth, there is still some adulterant in it that initially discolors the melted product in the bowl and almost always exacerbates the bad/burnt taste of the last few hits utntil finally leaving a dark brown/almost black residue on the inside of the bowl. SWIgogo has read that sugar cut will caramelize and burn with a bad taste and a brown color, but he would have thought that at least one of the methods he has employed would have eliminated the sugar problem. He's also familiar with product cut with MSM (I'm told that everything is around these part is, to some degree), but it was his understanding that MSM was a more discrete cut than this, burning relatively cleanly when blended in with the real thing. Finally, he's heard mention of "damaged" meth molecules -- a topic he doesn't fully understand -- and wonders if there could be some connection to that. Bottom line is he's been very careful in the execution of these cleaning methods (he does intend to move on to an A/B extraction soon), but something is still off, and he'd appreciate any ideas as to what that might be and how to fix it. As I mentioned, SWIgogo has used 3 cleaning methods, and said the problem is present with all three, but oddly claims that it's least present when a simple acetone wash is used. He wonders if the undesired result could stem from the presence of the water or the alchohol itself in the other techniques, although it would seem that he's given the stuff more than ample drying time to get rid of them in either case. He also noted that, while the problem of the funky taste and the think brown/black reside was biggest when he used the quick water wash, the result was in every other respect superior, with the crystals behaving most like he has seen/experienced before during the halcyon days when it was still possible to get what he paid for. SWIgogo would welcome any feedback.
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Re: Making the most out of meth that has been cut...?

SWIM totally appreciates your frustration, and has made various attempts to reverse engineer crappy dope, sometimes sucessful, other times not. He has concluded that the methodology wasn't the problem, but instead it is the inability to predetermine the adulterant in any given sample. Said SWIM has some former distribution experience and has found pure caffiene and Isotil to both be effective with the clients who do lines (in fact he would ALWAYS offer a "type A" or "type B" (A being uncut, B being cut) to clients and was endlessly amused by the choice almost always being type B. Such result being attributed to a "better burn" (to the nasal cavitiies) which many believe to indicated better dope). Has heard of rocksalt being sold, but only when the intention is to burn the buyer due to the fact that it only looks like the real deal, but NO ONE would ever be fooled by it once it was tried. SWIM has since given up on trying to turn lead into gold, and is now focused on recovering what is wasted when one exhales (a project which he has had some VERY encouraging sucess, he is now looking for a few willing to confirm his results...), however to those laboring to uncut the cut the following thoughts:
1. never, Never, NEVER try to "clean" your dope when you are spun. You will almost surely loose far more of your dope than if you had just left it alone.
2. Some of the best shit SWIM has experienced has tasted like absolute crap. That said, the "burn off" methods described above seem to be the most sucessful -however it is suggested that one use a candle and be very gentle when "blowing off" the cut.

SWIM solved the quality issue for himself in the following manner: Realizing that most of the persons adding crappy cut were those street level user/dealers and not those that supplied it to them (the folks who get a ball or so on a front, then do most of it up themselves will resort to adding whatever they can find - I once saw a girl add eyeshadow to her sack so that her old man didn't "find out" that she hadn't waited for him to do up all the shit he bought!) he endeavoured to "buy direct". How he did this was; he saved up enough cash to buy a half Z and then waited until he scored some rightous shit thru normal channels. Once he found the bomb batch he immediatly called up the guy he bought it from and told 'em he wanted to get a half ounce...NOW. Generally speaking that is an amount beyond what is on hand AND the dealer probably doesnt have the cash on hand to facilitate so he will ask for the cash, which he will then take to his connect and return with the shit. Tell to fuck off, politely, and tell him to instead bring the connect back with him. If all goes well, you meet Dude, and straight up ask if you can hook up direct. Do this with your dealer present-don't do it behind his back, no one repects a bitch and you won't get anything except a dealer with a grudge. Conversly, asking straight out will catch em both off guard and will gain you some respect, if nothing else. IMPORTANT: make damn sure you know how to test the shit BEFORE you give up the cash! In the few deals I know of that rock salt was used all of them involved at least a quarter oz or more, at the very least make sure that any large crystals can be crushed between your thumb and forefinger without too much pressure, rock salt is as hard as a rock. LOL. One of the tricks (policies is more accurate) that SWIM uses, especially with a unknown or not well known connect is to ALWAYS lay out two lines as soon as you get your shit-one for you and one for your dealer. I have never met a dealer who doesnt partake (at least as far as speed dealers go, I know a few coke dealers who ndo touch thier stuff...) and next time you score you can be sure SWIY will get the best shit on hand because he expect you to kick him down, and he definently ain't gonna want to get same shit as the common folk! SWIM did it primarily to see the look one thier face, everyone expects to get a taste when they buy-and almost none ever considers giving a blast to the seller.

In any case, best of luck.

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