Experiences - Propylhexedrine Experiences

[dr. swim]

^While it does have cause less of an obsessive desire to reorganize everything like adderall does, it gives a lot more energy because of the increase in blood sugar and oxygen flow.

SWIM has never wanted to run laps around his college campus while on adderall...

[dr. swim]

SWIM has been using this stuff for a few weeks now, on and off...

So far the worst thing that has happened to him while on it is...er, trying to jack off...needless to say it doesn't work, but trying to do so while on this stuff can be a bad mistake, because once you start it's hard to stop, and you can seriously rub until it's red and raw, and it can even get swollen (yes SWIM has had this happen before)

So to anyone who's wanting to try this, whatever you do, do NOT try and play with yourself. You will regret it. Do whatever you need to keep yourself sufficiently distracted. SWIM finds that PHX makes videogames profoundly enjoyable, moreso than any other drug SWIM has tried.

[EyesOfTheWorld]

SWIM had an interesting PPX experience today. In fact he is still having it. He has not touched PPX since college, when he ate 3 cottons combined with a lot of Jim Beam and became very sick. The substance piqued his curiosity again when I read this forum to him (my friend is blind). He went to the local chain drugstore, they didn't have it and it didn't look like they had a spot for it. His local chain supermarket did carry it, at a very high price, but "Fuck it", said my friend, and he bought one. Note: ONE, not THREE. He got it home, handed it to a non-blind friend, who cut it open for him (safety first, people!). Then he did the standard ritual of breaking it into pieces to pop like pills, when he realized he was drinking a soda. A Mountain Dew-an acidic soda! He placed the pieces of inhaler in the Dew, screwed the lid on tight and shook violently, then left it to soak for 30 mins., ran the soda thru a coffee filter to catch the cotton, and drank the strained soda. He then went off to other activities for 2 hours.

During this 2 hours, he went to another room where the remnants of his last batch of poppy pods were. He asked a sighted friend to cut off all the knob pieces from the stems and place them in a bag. Considering he had over 120 stems worth, this was a daunting task. While his friend was doing this, he placed all the crowns, pieces of pod etc, from the bottom of the box (probably about 12-15 grams poppy grinds, but not the highest quality). He made a slurry from this low-grade poppy product and drank it, and then asked his friend, who had finished cutting the knobs from the stems, to save the stems for a time of TRUE desperation, and place the knobs in a plastic bag, and start hammering at them. His obedient friend did so, and then the crushed knobs were blended into slurry-worth grinds, but were not consumed, yet, as my friend started to feel a pleasant itch and warmth radiating from his middle back to his shoulders arms, hands and fingers etc. He knw this was not the leftover-slurry, as it hadn't been long enough, and the feeling was different. Opiate like rush of energy, but not from an opiate

My friend then felt a compelling need to move around, which he did, playing guitar, pacing, went outside for a walk, etc. The warmth/itchies went through his entire body now but concentrated in his head. No matter how much he scratched his scalp the itch didn't go away, and he didnt think he wanted it to.

Now, about 2 hours from the original consumption of the PPX, and one hour from the consumption of the small slurry, SWIM had his friend mix him up a big slurry with the knob material. Yes, the slurry was 2x the normal size, but due to the lower quality of the material, that was necessary for effects. SWIM downed the slurry, and within a half hour felt its effects almost full-on, as if the PPX was accellerating his metabolism, yet he felt no jitters or heart issues. He took one Atenolol (BP med) as a precaution.
Now SWIM is feeling waves of warmpth and euphoria from both the PPX and the opiates.

It appears this drug is worthwhile as long as it isn't overused. SWIM can also see the health risks of regularly ingesting cotton, so it's best to soak in a drink and then strain out the cotton, as SWIM did.
SWIM currently feels incredible, like a cross of being Superman, Jesus and Eliza Dushku's sex toy all at once. He has benzos for later if sleep proves a problem, but right now he'd have to say he'd take PPX over ritalin or dexedrine any day, and would be hard pressed to decide between 60 mgs adderall and 250 mgs PPX. It definitely does not surpass methamphetamine or higher than 60 mg doses of adderall, however, he says.

He can see the habit forming potential with such a legal and comparatively cheap substance, so plans to use it maybe twice a month tops, and since as far as he can tell it isn't physically addictive, just has the potential to cause mental cravings, this is a rule he will be able to stick with.

Actually not bad for an OTC. Remember: SWIY should not eat the cotton straight. Even a cheap extraction like SWIMs soda idea is better than none. If SWIY has to take a shit, do so before ingesting PPX (TMI, maybe, but shitting on PPX is annoying. Doable, but annoying). Do not combine with other stims and limit consumtion to however often SWIY feels comfortable. SWIM would also like to recommend not going over the 250mg single-inhaler dose. More caused him sickness a long time ago, and he suspects it would do the same today. Besides, when one considers spending that much on inhalers, a person could get some good illicit stims.

THE END.

SWIM will have me post to this thread if anything really unexpected happens later tonight, but he doubts it.

[N1KGQH]

Originally Posted by dr. swim

SWIM has been using this stuff for a few weeks now, on and off...

So far the worst thing that has happened to him while on it is...er, trying to jack off...needless to say it doesn't work, but trying to do so while on this stuff can be a bad mistake, because once you start it's hard to stop, and you can seriously rub until it's red and raw, and it can even get swollen (yes SWIM has had this happen before)

So to anyone who's wanting to try this, whatever you do, do NOT try and play with yourself. You will regret it. Do whatever you need to keep yourself sufficiently distracted. SWIM finds that PHX makes videogames profoundly enjoyable, moreso than any other drug SWIM has tried.

Dude, no kidding! I was in my room for 2.5 hours, by the second hour I wasn't masturbating for pleasure, but to just bust a nut! By the time I was litterally dripping with sweat like i just ran a marathon, it was still pretty darn enjoyable though and I think Ima do it again anyway, just I gonna cut it short.

[Lady Codone]

SWIM has also mixed propyl with pod tea with favorable results. The lethargic opiate buzz is offset nicely by the tingly, energetic lift from the propyl. She would never consider taking an entire inhaler's worth at once, as it only takes a couple (tiny) sips from a lemon juice/water/cotton solution to get effects that last around 12 hours (Prozac seems to lengthen the time it takes to wear off). SWIM doesn't know how dangerous it could be to mix uppers with downers, and keeps her propyl use to once a month. One inhaler can last her anywhere from 4 days to a little over a week, which is good for the ol' pocketbook and the ol' ticker. Poppy tea is more of a daily indulgence; both substances tend to irritate her kidneys and induce UTIs for some reason.

Propyl side effects are decreased by drinking large amounts of water, keeping the blood sugar levels steady, not ingesting other stimulants (nicotine and caffeine included), and not overexerting oneself so as to cause stroke or other crises. She sees no need to ingest the cotton and believes it foolish to do so when a simple soak is quick, easy, and effective. It also seems that the concoction is harsh on the GI tract, so having some food on the stomach is a good idea. If the stomach begins burning, one should take some pepcid or other antacid so as to avoid ulcers and stomach bleeding. NSAIDs like ibuprofen increase the stomach discomfort from propyl GREATLY and probably the cardiac risks as well.

SWIM can type endlessly after a little propyl boost. She usually doesn't lose her appetite completely and can sleep deeply after it wears off. Her only point of reference is ephedra, which she used to take daily. Propyl increases the need for repetitiveness and mental stimulation, whereas ephedra gives an all-over bodily energy. Both cause bursts of adrenaline and are likely hard on the adrenal glands. SWIM suggests propyl to anyone who's a fan of stimulants, but only when used responsibly.

[duG22]

so swim decided he'd write his first trip report today:

the day started off with my mom bitching at me for taking too much
adderall
she then drove me to the psycho house where people with schizophrenia
live off of public aid.. ugh long story

well swim downed 2 cotton wods with some cool aid. swim was a sneaky. he
got the 2 tubes for free at the walgreens.. 5 finger discount; ill take it

so its going on 45 minutes into the trip. i need to smoke a cigarette very badly then go jam (my trips always go with my music)

its 6:10 now so i hope this adderall kicks in soon. feel like i wanna do something but when i get up i dont have the energy to move.. this is the first time swims experienced fatigue on PPX

well im back and its 4:40 i kinda hallucinated in my room.
the cieling was crawling with worms wiggling, then they started to fall
off the ceiling onto me!! gross i could actually feel them hitting my foot
Weird. i think im starting come down now after that

its 6:00 now and swims not really feeling the PPX effects anymore (swims done it about 5 times with 3 inhalers). hes hoping the adderall can bring him back up, swim wishes he had caffiene pills


oh one more.. has swiy ever seen a grim reaper shadow (big black hood covering
his face up). cus is freaking swim out

[Jatelka]

Please note that SWIMing needs to be consistent within posts

Stealing drugs is not something that can be condoned, and gives other users a bad name

"Psycho House" is extremely disrespectful towards people with mental illness

Please be more careful with your (monkeys) posting in future

[King_Bee]

A few years ago SWIM was getting lots of insight on PPX. SWIM thought of it nothing more than a legal stimulant. SWIM was, at the time, very much so into stimulants.

SWIM went online and bought 6 packs of them as none of his stores carried them. He was sitting at home with nothing to do besides do a little cleaning and light work. He decided this would be a good time to try it out.

SWIM cut the cotton rod (250mg of PPX) into 8 really small pieces and swallowed them one after another, washing it down with some water. About 45 minutes into the ingestion, SWIM passed out for 10 minutes. SWIM awoke feeling VERY strange, like he had taken a good dose of amphetamines yet different than an amphetamine he was familiar with. He remembered about the PPX at that time and loved every minute of the high.

The comedown was not bad for him. He paid no mind to it. The work, unfortunately, never got done and neither did the cleaning. SWIM had a little hard time focusing (which to him was extremely strange). The next day, SWIM would decide of taking another cotton and try it again.

The next day came and SWIM ingested the cotton the same way he did previously. Again, SWIM passed out after 30-45min after taking it. He hates that he always passes out after taking them but them awakens quickly (no more than 20 minutes later) completely feeling the effects. He remembered to do his work and cleaning. They seemed pretty normal to him, no change in activities although he did have the energy.

At the time of SWIM's comedown, he ingested his 3rd inhaler cotton. Same things happened, felt even worse on the comedown that time though. SWIM decided that he would save the other 3 packs for a later use. Little did he know that later use would come out the next day.

The next day SWIM was reading on PPX extractions and felt it would be easy enough. Following a guide he read online, he performed an extraction on 2 of the inhalers. He extracted the PPX nice and clean and it provided him with a few fat lines of PPX. SWIM proceded to snort a little line (about 10-20mg he would say). Deciding this would not be enough, he snorted another line (about 40mg). The extreme burn made him end up tossing the other powder away. The effects hit him faster and a little stronger. He felt more of the psychical effects (itchy scalp especially) which he enjoyed scratching at. Happily, SWIM did not pass out on this intake method but the effects were gone to fast for him to truly enjoy it.

SWIM breaks out the other cotton and eats it his normal way. The effects were back and he loved them. But he had passed out again. This time when he awoke his chest felt like there was a ton of pressure on it. His breathing became difficult and he had almost decided to call 911 to help him on his suspeted OD.

SWIM kept calm though and after an hour he felt a little bit more normal. SWIM has since then given up PPX as he fears another ingestion will bring back thse same effects. SWIM felt lucky to be alive and this was something he did not want to mess with again.

It looks like SWIM had an accidental binge on PPX (6 cottons in 3 days). He is sure the bad effects he had on the last attempt would of been good if he had not abused them the other 2 days. He has since learned that PPX is actually pretty potent and dangerous. He avoids them now.

SWIM's was almost tempted to smoke the PPX but he never tried it as he was unsure of the bad side effects of inhalation.

[Hollow Hippie]

No one should eat more than one or two inhalers (if your weight is somewhat large), remember propylhexedrine has a lot more peripheral effects than it's sister compound methamphetamine, which can lead to some serious cardiovascular problems.

[doktor]

DON'T DO THIS DRUG!!!! The effects on the heart far outweigh the slight euphoria that you get, which is not that great you could probably snort caffeine pills and get the same effect. It increases your blood pressure and your heart rate SIGNIFICANTLY over the next 3-4 days. I did two one time and my heart didn't return to normal for 5-6 days. When looking for mild stimulants, please, stick to caffeine and nicotine.

[Lucid_Dreamer]

Agreed ^^^. This drug is dangerous, useless, and anyone willing to try it, just don't. Find something better like MDMA.

[TTwinTTurbo]

SWIM would like to describe benzedrex roll. SWIM researched this OTC inhaler and decidided it would be fun to try since he likes the feeling of mdma. 1 inhalor was ripped into 6 or 7 pieces and downed with water. Felt nothing for close to an hour.

This is when SWIM started feeling a rush that is to SWIM...The same exact rush SWIM gets when taking molly. It makes SWIM want to touch everything and cant get his body to stop moving..music sounds intense especially rave music. SWIM has taken pure mdma a few times and says the first 2 hour body high is exactly like MDMA.

After this 2 hour high...SWIMs body high goes away and it turns into a very strong adderoll high. It was ok for an hour...but then SWIM wanted it to go away and it kept getting stronger. 2 to 3 times for about a minute to two miniutes swims heart would rush at 160 beats per minute and limbs would go numb. This caused SWIM to start freaking out and everytime chug two glasses of water and it would go away.

It should be noted however that SWIM checked his pulse every hour or so. 47-53 beats per minute. Pulse for SWIM was completely normal. No headache or any other side effects. Taken at 2 pm...and swim couldnt fall asleep till 6 AM the next day.

Overall SWIM hates this drug now that the heart things happened and overall lasting 16 plus hours. It sucks because the first 2 hours were the most amazing time of his life. SWIMs thoughts are don't do it. It's stupid. You might die. Overall experience a 1 out of 10 due to feelings of overdose.

[kailey_elise]

IIRC, even one inhaler (125mg, right?) is actually a largish dose; it used to be available in Europe in the hydrochloride salt in 25mg tablets. I also believe that taking it in the freebase form and in the cotton creates a kind of "slow release" mechanism. This might account for the reports of effects coming in "waves", where there's intense stimulation, then feeling normal, then intense stimulation again, etc.

Extraction, even the simple "soak in lemon juice/squeeze cotton into cup" method helps with this issue; better still to do the hydrochloride extraction, evaporate the liquid to get back the crystals, then split into whatever dose one would want to feed to his or her marmoset (assuming some loss, estimate that you have 100mg, so perhaps try half?).

If Those I Know were interested in assaying this compound again, they say they would definitely go through the process of extraction and actually try a lower dose. This could help with the effects lasting so long, and TIK think that taking a lower dose will help with the "lasting effects" over the few days post-assaying.

~Kailey Elise

Originally Posted by TTwinTTurbo

SWIM would like to describe benzedrex roll. SWIM researched this OTC inhaler and decidided it would be fun to try since he likes the feeling of mdma. 1 inhalor was ripped into 6 or 7 pieces and downed with water. Felt nothing for close to an hour.

This is when SWIM started feeling a rush that is to SWIM...The same exact rush SWIM gets when taking molly. It makes SWIM want to touch everything and cant get his body to stop moving..music sounds intense especially rave music. SWIM has taken pure mdma a few times and says the first 2 hour body high is exactly like MDMA.

After this 2 hour high...SWIMs body high goes away and it turns into a very strong adderoll high. It was ok for an hour...but then SWIM wanted it to go away and it kept getting stronger. 2 to 3 times for about a minute to two miniutes swims heart would rush at 160 beats per minute and limbs would go numb. This caused SWIM to start freaking out and everytime chug two glasses of water and it would go away.

It should be noted however that SWIM checked his pulse every hour or so. 47-53 beats per minute. Pulse for SWIM was completely normal. No headache or any other side effects. Taken at 2 pm...and swim couldnt fall asleep till 6 AM the next day.

Overall SWIM hates this drug now that the heart things happened and overall lasting 16 plus hours. It sucks because the first 2 hours were the most amazing time of his life. SWIMs thoughts are don't do it. It's stupid. You might die. Overall experience a 1 out of 10 due to feelings of overdose.